April 30, 2013, 09:28 AM | #1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: April 4, 2012
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 2,217
|
460 for Whitetail
I almost have my 460xvr setup for the fall hunt. I am planning on shooting the 200gr FTX Hornady. Has anyone hit a deer with one? Any suggestions on what a good bullet and shot placement would be?
Until now I have been using a 30-06 with the Federal Premium 165 Sierra Game Kings. CM shots drop with 1 step or less every time. I should mention Deer in NE PA where I hunt are field dressed around 110-130lbs. I like to make clean kills, but I also want to have something left to put in the freezer. A 200gr expanding bullet at 2200fps+- is similar in energy as the 30-06
__________________
Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it. Milton Freidman "If you find yourself in a fair fight,,, Your tactics suck"- Unknown |
April 30, 2013, 02:44 PM | #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: January 2, 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 3,876
|
Lot of bullet for a medium size deer.(200gr) At those speeds mentioned (2200) it shouldn't do all that much damage energy wise coming and going thru a animal. More than likely a little easier on the meat situation than that 165gr. 06 bullet which is much faster & a smaller bullet that expands much more readily. As far as a good spot. Like always just behind the shoulder a tad high or in the middle of that White Patch seen just below a deer's lower jaw located on its neck. Either spot and you'll have that deer in short order. (very little if any tracking needed)
S/S |
April 30, 2013, 04:42 PM | #3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: April 4, 2012
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 2,217
|
I have never had a problem with the -06, no tracking involved. My concern with the 200gr ftx is more over expansion. I dont want to have a hamburger laying in the woods.
__________________
Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it. Milton Freidman "If you find yourself in a fair fight,,, Your tactics suck"- Unknown |
April 30, 2013, 06:37 PM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 28, 2006
Posts: 4,342
|
The 200 gr FTX, while a great round for the range or varmints, is not really a deer round. At close range, they tend to blow up without decent penetration. This is my experience. Stick with something like the 240 or 300 Gr XTP-MAGS or Speer's 300 gr Deep Curl if you reload jacketed. If you are shooting factory, get something with a thicker jacket than the FTX or use a hard cast load. When shot into sandberms, the FTX expands to the point that it resembles a piece of flat copper foil, whereas the others I mentioned, will mushroom nicely and stay intact.
|
April 30, 2013, 09:17 PM | #5 |
Junior member
Join Date: May 16, 2008
Posts: 9,995
|
I hope to use my 460 Encore pistol this hunting season. I was planning to use the Hornady 200 grain rounds. I am pretty much limited to factory ammo. What about Federal fusion? I was sort of hoping to get the Hornady brass, but if it doesn't work well...
Buck, you mention reloading and after reading a few other online sources I wondered if you were using factory Hornady rounds or if you were reloading. If reloading, what velocity were you pushing the 200 grain bullets at? Last edited by johnwilliamson062; April 30, 2013 at 09:56 PM. |
April 30, 2013, 11:40 PM | #6 |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 9, 2005
Location: People's Republic of Maryland
Posts: 421
|
Whew....for a second there, I thought we were talking about the .460 Weatherby.
__________________
A mind without instruction can no more bear fruit than can a field, however fertile, without cultivation. --- Cicero |
May 1, 2013, 06:40 AM | #7 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: April 4, 2012
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 2,217
|
Quote:
__________________
Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it. Milton Freidman "If you find yourself in a fair fight,,, Your tactics suck"- Unknown |
|
May 4, 2013, 02:38 AM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 5, 2006
Location: West virginia
Posts: 653
|
I don't have any experience with the 460 but a 210gr hornady xtp @1560fps out of a 41mag kills deer just fine. If your worried about over expansion at higher velocities go with a hardcast bullet and aim for the heart/lung. It may run 30yds or so but it ain't gonna get far.
__________________
Kill em all and let God sort em out! USAF |
May 4, 2013, 06:39 AM | #9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: March 17, 2007
Location: Western NY
Posts: 925
|
I have the 460v and have shot one doe with the 200g hornady. It is too much for this sized game. I still carry it with 454 casul at 240?g and even that is overkill. Long story short....if younwant to do it, go ahead. Only downfall with your specific setup is that it is very heavy
__________________
See Ya! |
May 4, 2013, 09:22 PM | #10 |
Junior member
Join Date: May 16, 2008
Posts: 9,995
|
Kaker,
I was looking at the 454 after I posted and I think it is what I will end up with for deer. As far as the weight of a 460 gun, the SW revolver are heavy and my Encore isn't light, but in a shoulder holder they carry much better than a long gun IMO. Improvised rest is a good thing though. |
May 9, 2013, 08:02 AM | #11 |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 8, 2010
Location: SC
Posts: 1,344
|
BOOGIMAN- If you shoot a groundhog with a .460 Weath, VIDEO IT!!!!! lol
|
May 10, 2013, 01:45 AM | #12 |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 8, 2010
Location: North Georgia
Posts: 1,679
|
The truth be known the 454 is still pretty rough on white tail,can even be a mess on large hogs.
|
May 10, 2013, 08:23 AM | #13 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: April 4, 2012
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 2,217
|
Quote:
__________________
Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it. Milton Freidman "If you find yourself in a fair fight,,, Your tactics suck"- Unknown |
|
May 12, 2013, 09:40 AM | #14 | |
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: June 25, 2008
Location: Austin, CO
Posts: 19,578
|
Quote:
__________________
Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley |
|
May 12, 2013, 10:44 AM | #15 |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 21, 2010
Location: Rome, NY
Posts: 941
|
Be that as it may, Brian, in my 50 yrs of deer hunting I have found the neck or spinal shot most effective. But I am careful of my shots and wait for the best shot. It's been rare to need more than one shot for me. But that's all a matter technique.
__________________
Jim Page Cogito, ergo armatum sum |
May 12, 2013, 09:50 PM | #16 |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 19, 2005
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 5,323
|
But that is with a rifle where you are likely able to have more precise shot placement. Aim for the heart-lung area.
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|