Best manuals for WAP / Silhouette recipes?

Fargazer · November 22, 2010, 10:42 AM

So far I've seen very little information concerning Silhouette loads, other than the load sheet from Ramshot. I'm looking for recipes on 147gr plated, total metal jacket, and full metal jacket 9mm bullets.

What would be the best reloading manuals that would have data on Silhouette and WAP?

rg1 · November 22, 2010, 01:42 PM

Don't know about "best manual" but Hornady 7th Edition has WAP data for their bullets in the 9MM section. All jacketed bullets though. Nothing in Lyman's 48th-49th using WAP or Silhouette powders, nothing in Nosler's 4th or 6th, Speer 13th (not the latest) has only one load using WAP with a 125gr. lead bullet. Sierra 5th lists Silhouette with their 90,115, and 125-130gr. jacketed bullets, no WAP, and no 147 grain bullets.
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Hornady's 7th lists Win Action Pistol
-Hornady 147 HP-BT-XTP
Win SP primer
Hornady case
oal 1.100"
WAP start 3.7-750fps--4.0-800--4.4-850--4.7-900--5.0-950--max 5.3-1000
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Winchester's 15th Reloading Guide for WAP powder
Win cases and primers
147 lead cast FP--WAP 3.9-845 max 4.7-985
Win 147 FMJ 4.2-880 max 4.6-940
Win 147 JHP 4.0-865 max 4.4-920
Not much help with data for your 147 grain bullets with WAP and Silh powder.

steve4102 · November 22, 2010, 06:47 PM

Use the data from Ramshot's web site. It is new and up to date.

WESHOOT2 · November 23, 2010, 07:35 AM

I'll have to check (Speer comes to mind).

Man I still gotta lotta WAP.

Fargazer · November 23, 2010, 12:58 PM

I contacted Ramshot when I started this thread, asking about Hornady 147 FMJ (not XTP, but the bulk bullets), and both Berry's and Ranier's plated bullets.

I just heard back from their ballistician today. He told me they had just retested the 9mm Parabellum, and he was able to give me appropriate load ranges for both jacketed and plated 147 grain 9mm bullets.

I did ask if I could pass the information on to the forum; however, Ramshot company policy is to not publish data for general use prior to official publication. However, they will send the data out to individuals, so if you need the information specifics, use the "contact us" link at the bottom of their site's left menu bar. Looks like the official Ramshot load sheet is due for an update soon

I still appreciate recommendations for reloading manuals that include data for Silhouette or WAP powders; I'll be stocking my reloading shelves soon, and want to make sure I have information on those two powders.

November 22, 2010, 10:42 AM	#1
Fargazer Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2010 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 466	Best manuals for WAP / Silhouette recipes? So far I've seen very little information concerning Silhouette loads, other than the load sheet from Ramshot. I'm looking for recipes on 147gr plated, total metal jacket, and full metal jacket 9mm bullets. What would be the best reloading manuals that would have data on Silhouette and WAP?

November 22, 2010, 01:42 PM	#2
rg1 Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2001 Posts: 1,125	Don't know about "best manual" but Hornady 7th Edition has WAP data for their bullets in the 9MM section. All jacketed bullets though. Nothing in Lyman's 48th-49th using WAP or Silhouette powders, nothing in Nosler's 4th or 6th, Speer 13th (not the latest) has only one load using WAP with a 125gr. lead bullet. Sierra 5th lists Silhouette with their 90,115, and 125-130gr. jacketed bullets, no WAP, and no 147 grain bullets. ______________ Hornady's 7th lists Win Action Pistol -Hornady 147 HP-BT-XTP Win SP primer Hornady case oal 1.100" WAP start 3.7-750fps--4.0-800--4.4-850--4.7-900--5.0-950--max 5.3-1000 _____________________ Winchester's 15th Reloading Guide for WAP powder Win cases and primers 147 lead cast FP--WAP 3.9-845 max 4.7-985 Win 147 FMJ 4.2-880 max 4.6-940 Win 147 JHP 4.0-865 max 4.4-920 Not much help with data for your 147 grain bullets with WAP and Silh powder. Last edited by rg1; November 22, 2010 at 01:58 PM.

November 23, 2010, 07:35 AM	#4
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	I'll have to check (Speer comes to mind). Man I still gotta lotta WAP. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

November 22, 2010, 06:47 PM	#3
steve4102 Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,955	Use the data from Ramshot's web site. It is new and up to date.

November 23, 2010, 12:58 PM	#5
Fargazer Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2010 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 466	I contacted Ramshot when I started this thread, asking about Hornady 147 FMJ (not XTP, but the bulk bullets), and both Berry's and Ranier's plated bullets. I just heard back from their ballistician today. He told me they had just retested the 9mm Parabellum, and he was able to give me appropriate load ranges for both jacketed and plated 147 grain 9mm bullets. I did ask if I could pass the information on to the forum; however, Ramshot company policy is to not publish data for general use prior to official publication. However, they will send the data out to individuals, so if you need the information specifics, use the "contact us" link at the bottom of their site's left menu bar. Looks like the official Ramshot load sheet is due for an update soon I still appreciate recommendations for reloading manuals that include data for Silhouette or WAP powders; I'll be stocking my reloading shelves soon, and want to make sure I have information on those two powders.