Any .270 Win 130 gr loads anyone could recommend?

[Barr]

First off, I am aware that all rifles perform differently with different kinds of powders, primers etc. I am just trying to shortcut the process a little bit and find an accurate load. What do the rest of you use for accuracy?

I have loaded my Remington 700 ADL rifle with both Reloader 19 at 47 grains and 50 grains over 130 gr. Remington Core-Lokt bullets with a WLP Primer in a Winchester case. I just got a pound of IMR-4064 to try. I read that a good load to use for accuracy is 43.5 grains of 4064.

This is my first shot at loading rifle. I have done quite a bit with handgun and shotgun. Any recommendations for powder etc would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[arkie2]

Check out this site.


http://handloads.com/loaddata/defaul...Powder&Source=

[firechicken]

I have had good luck with 130gr Nosler Ballistic Tips and IMR 4350 from my 700BDL. If I do my part, I can usually get three shot groups of less than 1/2" @ 100yds. The rifle is box-stock with the exception of the trigger pull lightened and I floated the barrel. My load is 55.0gr IMR 4350 with Rem 9 1/2 primers and an OAL of 3.420". I haven't shot that load through my chronograph for a while, but if I remember correctly it was right at 3025fps. Work your way up to it, and don't use my OAL since that is the length for my rifle with Ballistic Tips.

[Barr]

Handloads.com is where I found the reference to the Lyman manual load (43.5 gr of IMR 4064). Thanks for the link though.

[castnblast]

I used to use H4831 sc (short cut...meters better) when I loaded for 270. I don't recall the mix, and would hate to quote it. 4064 is a great powder, but I think you'll have better luck with a slightly slower burning powder w/ a 130, and get higher velocities. If you are going to load some 90's or 100's the 4064 is a great choice. But try it anyway since you have it.

I like boat tails for rifle and the reason is 2 fold. first, they load easy. Second, they have a much better ballistic coefficient, and thus you get better retained velocity, and trajectory. If your core-locs don't do the job, try either hornady 130 btsp or Sierra 130 gr. Spitzer boat tail (soft points). I'd steer clear of ballistic tips. They are VERY accurate, but tend to explode on impact. (that's what they're designed to do)

[Barr]

I have had trouble getting my cases to securely hold the bullets with any crimp after I neck sized the cases with a Lee collet sizing die.

1) I neck sized the cases.
2) Trimmed and deburred the cases.
3) Primed the cases.
4) Charged the case.
5) I then seated the bullets with a strong crimp (crimping die almost touching the shell holder) in the crimping groove to 3.24 inches OAL.

At this point the bullet was loose enough to be turned by hand in the case etc. I set them aside and adjusted to slight/no crimp with the same results. At this point I had thought that the heavy crimp might have fractured the bullet copper casing etc.

I then backstepped and full length sized the cases and redid all the same steps with light crimp this time. The bullets stayed in the case fine this time.

Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks.

[kingudaroad]

With a bolt action rifle and proper dies there does not even need to be a crimp. Just good 'ol neck tension should be sufficient to hold the bullet. I think you might be effecting the neck tension by trying to crimp. Try some with the seating die backed out where it will not crimp. Just seat and shoot and I bet you will like the results.

My 700 ADL likes:
130 gr Nosler ballistic tips
57 gr H4831sc
Lots of case prep and NO CRIMP

Please start at reduced loads and work up per a good reloading manual.

[Charles S]

Again, please start at reduced loads and work up, but her are my favorites.

130 Gr Swift Sccicoro over 58 grains IMR 4831, WLR primers, OAL 3.310

130 Gr Sierra Gamekings over 53.2 grains IMR 4350, WLR primers, OAL 3.300

140 Gr Hornady over 60 grains Reloader 22, CCI primers, OAL 3.230

All of these loads are better than 1 inch in my Remington 700 and my Tikka T3.

[Barr]

I did try the bullet seating/crimping die with the die backed most of the way out. Thanks for the suggestion though.

[castnblast]

What weight bullet? I found the lighter ones (100 gr. & under) I needed to reduce the OAL a bit and seat the bullet deeper. Also as a hint, and your gun might be different, I have made it a practice to full length size my hunting rounds. It really helps on those real cold mornings, and helps feed ammo in quick situations. Just a thought to consider.

[Jbar4Ranch]

My standard load for at least 25 years has been 54.0 grains of IMR-4350, CCI-200, and a Speer or Sierra bullet in any make of case.

[Barr]

My bullet weight was in first post but it is 130 grains Remington Core-Lokt.

[cdoc42]

Barr, my favorite load is 130gr Hornady SST with H414 57.0 gr. using a CCI 250 Mag primer. This got me a 100-yard, 3 sot group measuirng 0.348" and a 3-shot, 200-yard group of 1.09"

I don't understand your reference to a "crimping groove" in the Remington 130 gr Cor-Lok. My understanding is that groove is the cannelure and it is what locks the core, allowing the portion of the bullet forward of that point to expand, while the rear "core" stays intacty for penetration. It is not really meant to be a seating point unless it happens by accident, depending on size of the rifle throat.

Example: my load above is seated to 0.015" from the leade. THe overall cartridge length is 3.384" - the "groove" in the bullet is 0.157" beyond the mouth of the case.

A 130gr Remington Cor-Lok seated 0.015" from the leade measures 3.302" in OAL and the cannelure is only 0.037" beyond the mouth of the case.

If I seated the Hornady to the same OAL as the Remington it would be 0.12" deeper and a total of 0.135" away from the leade, affecting my accuracy.

I also never crimp rifle bullets, not in a bolt-action anyway.

[Barr]

Thanks for the advice/correction. I did not realize that the "groove" was acutally the cannelure. Always new tricks to learn.

[castnblast]

Sorry, missed the weight...craneous upus the buttus... I'd go with the slower powder. I personally like H4831sc or H4831. They both shoot exactly the same, and tests show no difference in burn rates between the short cut and the standard. I have intermingled rounds (NO, I DID NOT MIX THE POWDER...thought I'd make that clear) and noticed no difference in shot pattern. I prefer the sc because it meters better, but if it is not available, I get the standard stuff. Works great in my 7mm rem mag too.

[claude1982]

Just thought someone might like... measured a core loct 270 win OAL today for a start to reload my own... OAL was 3.244'

I just brought 150 fresh Winchester cases
300 Speer 130gr SPBT projectiles
1000 CCI large primers.
ADI (Australian) 2209 powder

Starting some load data on a new Sako 85 Stainless in 270 Win.
54grains of AR2209, OAL set at between 3.240 and 3.340

[hooligan1]

I have loaded for four different .270's and all have been slightly different,,,, We all know that it's safest to start low and work up slowly to a perfect weight of powder charge right???

Having said that my Savage 110 LOVES,,, LOVES,, the 130 grn Accubond from Nosler, setting on a charge of 53grns of H 4350, I shot a group two weeks ago at one hundred yds .217,, cover the three shot group with a dime!!!!

[hooligan1]

sorry I can't help myself,,,,

[black mamba]

My best was a near max (start below this 3 grains and work up) load of 55.0 gr IMR-4350 with WLR primer and Sierra 130 gr flat base to 3.35" OAL. 3/4" groups all day with a 7X max power Leupold vari-X II.

[spclPatrolGroup]

58.3gr of H4831 wtih a 130gr Hornady Interlock is my load of choice.

[603Country]

I use H4831sc behind the Nosler 130 gr Ballistic Tip bullet. CCI bench rest primers and Remington cases (I'll soon switch to Norma cases). If I was starting from scratch, I'd probably try IMR 4831 also. As for the amount of H4831sc I use, let's just say that it was near max in my old Lyman reloading manuals and is now above max in my new Lyman reloading manuals, though there are no signs of too much pressure. I've used the load (no, not the same brass) for at least 25 years.

[mouser868]

Dad and I have had excellent results using IMR 4064 and 4831 with 130gr Sierra Bullets and CCI primers. At this time we are feeding 2 Ruger M77's, a Ruger No.1. and 2 Savage 110's in .270 Win., It seems the Rugers like IMR 4064 the best and the Savages like 4831 the best, don't know why, but that's how it has worked out. There is also a Remington 7400 that is still in the development stages, though we're in no hurry as we are .270 poor.

Though I will say that by December one of the Savages is going to become a 6.5\06.

[Qtiphky]

Here's my load right now.

For my Rem 700 BDL with no modifications

Barnes Tipped TSX 130 Grain (collett neck sized - no factory crimp die)
H4895 43 Grains
CCI LR Primer
Seated OAL 3.30

Around 2700 fps and less than 1" at 100 yards from my gun.

[mrawesome22]

Barr, screw the collet die in farther and push down harder on the press handle.

And no need for a crimp.

[kraigwy]

I normally load 150s for my 270 W because its my elk rifle. My kid "barrowed" my 257 Roberts (my deer/antelope rifle) so I needed some 130s.

I loaded 130 Hornady SPs with 54 grns of IMR 4350. Winchester Brass and Primers.

For velocity out of my Wincherster Model 70 Featherweight I get 2982 FPS.

I sighted it in to hit the X at 25 yards which is zeroed at 275 yards.

At 100 its 3.1 in high,
At 200 its 3.3 in high
At 300 its 1.8 in low
At 400 its 12.8 in low

The highest point in the trejectory is 3.8 at 150. at 350 its right at 4 inches low. With this you can aim at the heart/lung area and get hits to 350 without any problems. (On antelope, a tad farther on deer).

In my rifle (a Model 70 Featherweight) it stays right at 1 MOA, but gets hot when you get toward 10 rounds. No problem when hunting, you have to shoot that much you have other problems.

First time I took it hunting, a week ago yesterday, I shot a antelope at 425 yards, Aiming at the top of his shoulders and it dropped down a bit and broke its neck right infront of the shoulder. Clean humain kill.

Now I that I found out Berger is making 130s in .277 I have to get a box and play with them.