Using 209 primers instead of #11 caps?

w_houle · June 27, 2009, 08:02 PM

For some reason Orschelin doesn't have any #10 or 11 caps. All thay have are 209 primers. I didn't buy them because I didn't think they would work, but figured I could ask anyway.

the rifleer · June 27, 2009, 08:25 PM

caps go over the nipple. 209 are shotgun primers and go into the ignition hole. they will not work unless you have the proper conversion.

Pahoo · June 28, 2009, 11:18 AM

What kind of M/L are you working with? All caps or primers, have a specific application. Confused ??

Be Safe !!!

w_houle · June 28, 2009, 11:56 AM

1851 Colt and 1858 Remington

Andy Griffith · June 28, 2009, 12:00 PM

Unfortunately for you, 209's will not work on a percussion revolver.

Only #10's or #11's work on the revolvers that you mentioned.

Where are you out of? Perhaps someone can suggest where you can procure some #11's or #10's locally.

B.L.E. · June 28, 2009, 12:03 PM

The only way you could use 209 shotgun primers is if you had a custom cylinder designed to use them, this would include a firing pin or firing pins as part of the cylinder or a custom hammer that has a firing pin instead of a flat face.

209 primers were originally meant for reloading shotgun shells.

jaguarxk120 · June 28, 2009, 01:38 PM

The 209 primers contain about 4-5 times the priming compound of a regular cap. They were designed to light off charges of very fast burning shotgun smokeless powder. When a shotgun shell is fired the combustion chamber increases in volume rapidily due to large bore size. You want all the powder burning as soon as possible.

w_houle · June 28, 2009, 08:12 PM

Currently I do all of my shopping in Junction City, KS.

Smokin_Gun · June 28, 2009, 08:57 PM

I got my last order of 1,000 Rem 10 and 1,000 of Rem 11 here...can get CCI or Rem...

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w_houle · June 28, 2009, 10:34 PM

Looks good... Thanks!

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June 27, 2009, 08:02 PM	#1
w_houle Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,391	Using 209 primers instead of #11 caps? For some reason Orschelin doesn't have any #10 or 11 caps. All thay have are 209 primers. I didn't buy them because I didn't think they would work, but figured I could ask anyway. __________________ How could you have a slogan like "freedom is slavery" when the concept of freedom has been abolished?

June 27, 2009, 08:25 PM	#2
the rifleer Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,281	caps go over the nipple. 209 are shotgun primers and go into the ignition hole. they will not work unless you have the proper conversion.

June 28, 2009, 11:18 AM	#3
Pahoo Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: IOWA Posts: 8,783	What kind of M/L are you working with? All caps or primers, have a specific application. Confused ?? Be Safe !!!

June 28, 2009, 12:03 PM	#6
B.L.E. Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2008 Location: Somewhere on the Southern shore of Lake Travis, TX Posts: 2,603	The only way you could use 209 shotgun primers is if you had a custom cylinder designed to use them, this would include a firing pin or firing pins as part of the cylinder or a custom hammer that has a firing pin instead of a flat face. 209 primers were originally meant for reloading shotgun shells.

June 28, 2009, 01:38 PM	#7
jaguarxk120 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,620	The 209 primers contain about 4-5 times the priming compound of a regular cap. They were designed to light off charges of very fast burning shotgun smokeless powder. When a shotgun shell is fired the combustion chamber increases in volume rapidily due to large bore size. You want all the powder burning as soon as possible.

June 28, 2009, 10:34 PM	#10
w_houle Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,391	Looks good... Thanks! __________________ How could you have a slogan like "freedom is slavery" when the concept of freedom has been abolished?