High Standard 120 Riot.

BerdanSS · August 24, 2013, 05:40 PM

I fixed the magazine issue

Any way to tell if if this was really a riot gun or is it a well done cutoff.

dalecooper51 · August 24, 2013, 06:54 PM

Take a look to see if it marked for the choke constriction.

Most riot guns are cylinder while longer barreled field guns have a tighter choke and are marked accordingly.

Dfariswheel · August 24, 2013, 08:21 PM

Back then, most "riot" shotguns didn't have checkering on the stock or fore end or any commercial type features.

As above, check the barrel for a choke mark. If it's anything other then Cylinder Bore it's probably a cut-down.

BerdanSS · August 25, 2013, 10:57 AM

wish I could get a picture of it up (sd card slot in the tower isn't working) may have to settle for a cell phone pic. The barrel isn't marked, and from what I can tell all of the model 120 (or 1200

) flight kings have the corn cob Winchester style pump handles.

It only holds 6 shells, the barrel is 18" if I'm measuring it right. looks exactly like this one except no sights, just a front bead And mine is in much better shape. There's a heat shield on it, fits very well like it was made for it but defiantly looks after market.

also, using the old dime trick.....it drops freely through the muzzle

PetahW · August 28, 2013, 01:27 PM

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"Riot" guns of the day were equipped with only a simple/small brass bead front sight, screwed or pressed directly into the top of the barrel near the muzzle - which is not to say an acomplished chopper didn't install a bead aterwards.

No bead front sight = kitchen table chop job.

Rifle sights on a shotgun were unheard of on riot guns until about the early 1970's, when the factories supplied the demand for a "deer gun". ("Slug guns" came even/much later)

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BerdanSS · August 28, 2013, 05:40 PM

it has a hole where the bead was pressed in, now it's missing.

PetahW · August 28, 2013, 09:33 PM

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Then, if it has a plain/uncheckered/satin-finished stock, I'd presume it was issued as a Riot Gun.

I had an Ithaca 37 Riot Gun, w/o any PD or other military, prison or other institutional markings - so I presume there's some around that are hard to ID.

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August 24, 2013, 05:40 PM	#1
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Location: to close to other houses Posts: 1,176	High Standard 120 Riot. I fixed the magazine issue Any way to tell if if this was really a riot gun or is it a well done cutoff. Last edited by BerdanSS; August 24, 2013 at 06:51 PM.

August 28, 2013, 01:27 PM	#5
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	. "Riot" guns of the day were equipped with only a simple/small brass bead front sight, screwed or pressed directly into the top of the barrel near the muzzle - which is not to say an acomplished chopper didn't install a bead aterwards. No bead front sight = kitchen table chop job. Rifle sights on a shotgun were unheard of on riot guns until about the early 1970's, when the factories supplied the demand for a "deer gun". ("Slug guns" came even/much later) . Last edited by PetahW; August 28, 2013 at 01:32 PM.

August 24, 2013, 06:54 PM	#2
dalecooper51 Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2007 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 318	Take a look to see if it marked for the choke constriction. Most riot guns are cylinder while longer barreled field guns have a tighter choke and are marked accordingly.

August 24, 2013, 08:21 PM	#3
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	Back then, most "riot" shotguns didn't have checkering on the stock or fore end or any commercial type features. As above, check the barrel for a choke mark. If it's anything other then Cylinder Bore it's probably a cut-down.

August 25, 2013, 10:57 AM	#4
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Location: to close to other houses Posts: 1,176	wish I could get a picture of it up (sd card slot in the tower isn't working) may have to settle for a cell phone pic. The barrel isn't marked, and from what I can tell all of the model 120 (or 1200 ) flight kings have the corn cob Winchester style pump handles. It only holds 6 shells, the barrel is 18" if I'm measuring it right. looks exactly like this one except no sights, just a front bead And mine is in much better shape. There's a heat shield on it, fits very well like it was made for it but defiantly looks after market. also, using the old dime trick.....it drops freely through the muzzle

August 28, 2013, 05:40 PM	#6
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Location: to close to other houses Posts: 1,176	it has a hole where the bead was pressed in, now it's missing.

August 28, 2013, 09:33 PM	#7
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	. Then, if it has a plain/uncheckered/satin-finished stock, I'd presume it was issued as a Riot Gun. I had an Ithaca 37 Riot Gun, w/o any PD or other military, prison or other institutional markings - so I presume there's some around that are hard to ID. .