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Old April 27, 2016, 10:37 PM   #1
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Sometimes you just want to smack the importers...stupid stamps

This didn't seem to fit any of the forums above but I do think it is relevant. This is probably one of the worst importing stamps that I have ever seen. And on top of that, it appears to be on a 1956 - Type 56 - Ghost. Makes me want to cry....


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Old April 28, 2016, 07:54 AM   #2
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Almost looks like the old Chinese way - some guy sitting on the floor stamping them by hand, one at a time. You could say it has character.
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Old April 28, 2016, 07:13 PM   #3
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LOL! I think you nailed it as did the dude sitting in the floor with the stamper. Yeah, you could say it has character; unfortunately none of it's characters are in a straight line!
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Old April 28, 2016, 07:41 PM   #4
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^^^^
Har-He made a funny-very un straight line
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Old April 28, 2016, 09:52 PM   #5
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Wow thats bad.
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Old April 29, 2016, 05:15 AM   #6
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I can read it clearly "Made in China". Seems about par, for the course. There is a reason the stuff from China is cheap. This is totally appropriate. I dont see anything to cry about. If it was a German Navy model Luger, yea, then I might be disappointed or surprised. But, Chinese, this is exactly what I would expect.
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Old April 29, 2016, 07:58 AM   #7
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Awe man don't knock the worker for this. He clearly did the best he could with the tools provided.... He even gave some of the letters a second or third whack if needed.
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Old April 30, 2016, 07:32 AM   #8
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That actually looks pretty good. My one SAR1 AK looks like they gave a monkey an engraving pen and let them have at it. At least they "stamped" yours. My monkey had terrible handwriting.
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Old April 30, 2016, 08:32 AM   #9
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None have been worse than the recent K31s, which had a 2" x1" field of lettering across the top of the rear receiver bridge. Pin-stamped too, to make it look as terrible as possible.

At least the Type 56 is ugly starting out, and doesn't have high quality markings elsewhere.


I sure hope AIM/Century didn't choose to do it this way...

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Old April 30, 2016, 05:05 PM   #10
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Buy 'Merican, and you won't have this problem.
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Old April 30, 2016, 05:12 PM   #11
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Buy 'Merican, and you won't have this problem.
Oh? Not a lot of 'Merican facilities producing chi-com SKS rifles. Otherwise... helpful post. People get drawn in to import and re-import guns mostly because of the price. If a fine American builder wanted to craft an SKS, I'll bet it would be fantastic but it sure would be a risky business venture as not a lot of folks would line up to spend $1,200 to get one, I'd guess.

To the topic, I have a Norinco T213 (sorry, pistol mentioned in the rifle forum!) but I am certain that a Chinese laborer sat down and hammered English lettering on my pistol. None of the characters line up well and he seriously did spell it "CHIAN."

Yes, YES! I know what you will say! Show me the pictures!
I don't have a picture handy. But every time I see a picture of a Norinco T213, I zoom in if I can, just in the hopes of finding another.

Perhaps mine is the ultra-collectible rare 1-of-1 ever made.

Made in CHIAN!
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Old April 30, 2016, 05:13 PM   #12
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Well....that would be flat out boring.
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Old May 1, 2016, 12:07 PM   #13
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I have a Norinco T213 (sorry, pistol mentioned in the rifle forum!) but I am certain that a Chinese laborer sat down and hammered English lettering on my pistol. None of the characters line up well and he seriously did spell it "CHIAN."
Now that's funny!!!
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Old May 1, 2016, 05:02 PM   #14
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Chian could be his name.
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Old May 1, 2016, 08:20 PM   #15
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Sometimes you just want to smack the importers...stupid stamps

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If you want to smack somebody, smack BATF, the ones who mandate this crap.

Also, I'm not sure that these stamps are applied overseas; The usual procedure is to hire some high school kid to do it, or at least that's the way a lot of importers do it.
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Old May 2, 2016, 01:05 AM   #16
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R Guns by had the worst import markings ever on their Nagant rifles.
Looked like they gave a 5 year old an electric pencil.

PW Arms annoys me with their import marking billboard.
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Old May 2, 2016, 06:45 PM   #17
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I have a Mosin Nagant without import stamps . the rest of them look like poop.
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Old May 3, 2016, 11:25 AM   #18
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Pin-stamped too, to make it look as terrible as possible.
Looks to be laser-engraved to me...

Blame the ATF. Importers are just following the newer regs.
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Old May 17, 2016, 08:58 PM   #19
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Well, I bought the d@mn thing regardless of the import stamp! :P 1956 Type 56 Ghost/Sterile with matching numbers (5 digit Serial). The stock has no SN so I'm guessing it was a replacement and the bluing is too good not to be a refurb. For $298....I'll take it and run. The guts are still loaded with cosmoline so she hasn't been fired on these shores. She's purdy....

Edit: I did find a faint SN on the stock. It doesn't match the gun but the stock looks old; there are some signs of repair marks and it has seen some action. Best purchase that I ever made!


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Old May 17, 2016, 09:38 PM   #20
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Sorry, you don't get to blame the ATF for the stamps.

Virtually ALL products are required by law to have their country of origin marked on them. Guns require the maker's name and address (city & country). Importer's name and address will suffice as well.

If they aren't marked by the maker, they must be marked by the importer, before they can be sold. That has been the law for a long time (country of origin) and with guns, maker/importer name and address since 68, IIRC.

BATF just enforces it.
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Old May 18, 2016, 03:28 AM   #21
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Country of origin ? For things like meat it's no longer required !!!
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Old May 18, 2016, 07:16 AM   #22
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Buy 'Merican doesn't help when the gun is imported btw. Still needs to be marked as "Made in USA"
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Old May 18, 2016, 07:38 PM   #23
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gyvel If you want to smack somebody, smack BATF, the ones who mandate this crap.
Smack Congress, not ATF. Congress is the one that passed the Gun Control Act of 1968 that included a requirement to mark imported firearms.



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tobnpr Blame the ATF. Importers are just following the newer regs.
Those "newer regs" are 48yrs old.


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Uh no.
Importers don't mark imported guns with "Made in USA".
They mark them with the name and city of the firearms importer.
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Old May 19, 2016, 07:46 AM   #24
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Those "newer regs" are 48yrs old.
Ummm, they were revised effective in 2002.

That's when the "inconspicuous" little import stamps on the end of the barrel disappeared and the "billboards" were required:

Read this:

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearm...ation-overview
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Old May 20, 2016, 04:00 PM   #25
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My least favorite job in a shop was manually marking parts. Didn't matter if it was with an electro-stencil, punches and hammer, or a polymer inked stamp. I'd rather clean coolant tanks.
Of course, if I would have marked the parts I was working n like that the aero clients would have refused them and, if more than one or maybe two, I would have been looking for a new job.
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