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April 17, 2009, 12:01 AM | #51 |
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Blasphemy, I know, but that wedge is not supposed to go all that far in. It is a consumable. It will distort, or get mashed during prolonged firing.
You should be able to smack it in with a 3 pound hand sledge and not close up the cylinder/barrel gap, IF the arbor is the right length. The arbor should bottom out in the arbor hole. Thumb pressure should be all that is needed to put the pistol back into shooting mode. It should also take no more than a light tap, I have read that them old guys tapped with a loaded replacement cylinder to loose it. Regardless the patent description, though it may have been one of old Sam'l's ideas, it is to keep the wedge from falling out when you are ahorseback and changing cylinders. Imagine trying to hold onto the wedge, cylinder, barrel, frame and putting the new one in place. That with 2 hands. Limiter, loose the screw on any of your Colt's and see if you can turn the screw a 1/4 turn and have it stay there. They did not use Nylok or other types of restrained screws. Spin freely. Supposed to be run home and simply keep the wedge from falling out. As to the Captain's "lock up", I have argued this till I am blue in the face. IF you have a gap, with the base pin face butted, and drive the wedge in, AND close the gap, you are bending the arbor upwards, tilting the barrel upwards, raising the point of aim, shooting high. Many don't comprehend or agree with that. I wish I had a picture to demonstrate. I'll try to draw one and post my thought. Cheers, George |
April 17, 2009, 06:16 AM | #52 |
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George, I couldn't agree more.
When the arbor is properly fit the Colt open top is an accurate, trouble free revolver. Some people complain of shooting 18" high or low, it's because the have bent the arbor beating the wedge in. |
April 17, 2009, 06:34 PM | #53 |
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arbors
THis has been a rahter educational thread- thank you all-
I was reading a pdf file from this forum that speaks to tuning of a Pietta and mentions checking the arbor length and a future article would address a remedy. By and large if the arbor was too long it could be filed down a bit in order to avoid the problem MCB mentions. I had thought the 3rd gen Colt's were all made by Uberti but stamped by Colt- So now it appears they might have at least checked by Colt. I may look into finding a 2nd gen just for grins though I will keep looking for a 1858 also. |
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April 17, 2009, 06:58 PM | #57 |
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An observation ...
Y'all get off topic a lot. |
April 17, 2009, 09:02 PM | #58 | |
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Lou Imperato, DBA Iver Johnson did the F series of the 2nd gens. Lou Imperato DBA Colt Black Powder Arms Co did the Signature series 3rd gen. Lou Imperato was involved very early with the 2nd gens with Val Forgett and continued on with the 3rd gens. |
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September 25, 2012, 11:32 AM | #59 |
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"Last I heard they wouldn't letter from Colt. Colt put out a disclaimer saying they didn't build them and wouldn't warranty them and I've heard several people say they tried to get them lettered and Colt won't letter them. Colt only licensed the 3rd gens and had no part in the building. Colt at least did the final fitting and finish on the 2nd gens."
Actually I did get some 3rd Gens lettered by Colt, so it was done in some instances early in the series release by Colt Blackpowder Inc. |
January 21, 2017, 02:29 PM | #60 |
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Taylor's Ranch Hand Deluxe is outstanding!
I have had a Uberti Cattleman for several years. I sent it to an outstanding gunsmith to have it timed, slicked up with Wolff springs, trigger job, deepen the rear sight notch and make it square-bottomed. That gun is an absolute jewel to shoot.
I just bought a Taylor's Ranch Hand Deluxe. The Deluxe version has all of the above work already performed by Taylor's gunsmith. It is flawless. Timed like a Swiss watch, about a 2lb trigger pull with zero creep and a clean break, nice color in the case hardening and stunning blue on the blue parts. The brass parts are not highly polished, but a little polishing with Brasso will have them shining brightly like the above Uberti. I cannot recommend Taylor's highly enough, especially their Deluxe offerings. I am presently fitting a set of white corian faux ivory grips on this one. I also have two Ruger Vaqueros. There is no contest. These two Ubertis are just much more fun to shoot, balance better, feel better, and are more accurate. USFA and Colt guns are just priced in the stratosphere, totally out of reach, and IMHO these Taylor's are every bit their equal if not better. Last edited by jimku; January 21, 2017 at 02:39 PM. |
January 22, 2017, 05:31 PM | #61 |
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When you clicked on the "Reply" button, you saw a notice like this:
Reopening this, as with almost all old threads, is not "absolutely necessary." You're welcome to start new threads here, jimku, and you've done so on the subject of this gun, so I'm closing this as a duplicate; posting multiple threads on the same subject is against TFL policy.
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