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September 9, 2005, 11:56 AM
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Varget
hi guys... can anyone post a chart for Varget powder will be loading for a 700Rem .308 v . 26" brl 1-12 twist using Fed GM210 primer, Win case , Sierra 168 MK hpbt. all the stuff is here an don't have the book yet ......
 .... or maybe a pet load [i'm not new to loading] any, all, are welcome ..... thanks Rich G,...... 
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September 9, 2005, 12:22 PM
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MrGee I am new to reloading so I cant offer any pet loads but got the Basic Reloaders Manual off Hodgdon's site and it came in the mail a couple days ago and for the 308 Win they have this:
Case: Winchester PR: Federal 210M And for your bullet the 168Gr Sierra HPBT with Varget they suggest a 46.0GR's MAX load . They used a 24inch barrel and the velocity was 2731fps. I hope this helps. Just since I am posting a Max load and there are rules about it here Remember to back off 10% of this load and work your way up So that means you will start at about 41.5gr's of powder Dimitri |
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September 9, 2005, 08:18 PM
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Just a note to follow up. The Varget will perform better as a full house load, so back off the proper amount and work up to the 46 watching for pressure signs (flattened primers, difficult bolt lift, etc.) Your optimium load should be somewhere around the 46 gr., or a liitle less depending on your rifle.
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September 9, 2005, 08:51 PM
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A Sierra 168 gr MK and 45.0 gr of Varget shoot very nicely and runs 2750 fps from my 26" Winchester model 70 .308.
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September 10, 2005, 01:31 AM
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thanks Guys... i purchased bran-nu Winchester brass an have gotten them ready to load ... pre primer.. i check'd the weight out on them w/ the scale to figure on wall thickness for volume [presser] an seperated them in 2gr differences.. so i'll know if anything get over board working my up ... new gun an new componets don't want to mess anything i'll be give that Hodgdon's site a look see thanks... at least i can get started thanks
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September 11, 2005, 06:38 PM
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I am shooting just 43.9 gr. varget out to 500 yards and did fine. CCI primers, Win Brass, 168g SMK. When i normally just shoot 100 yards, i just use the min load (42gr.).
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September 11, 2005, 08:16 PM
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I've shot the 175 grain Sierra MK over 44.6 grains of Varget from new Winchester cases fired by the Federal 210M primer. They average 2687 fps from my 24 inch tac rifle tube. I prefer the 175 because I've seen the 168 start to tumble and keyhole beyond 700 yards, and not just from my gun. The 175 is better ballistically and remains stable to 1000 yards (as far as I've shot with it).
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September 11, 2005, 09:33 PM
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thats super info guys are you playing with seating depth or just the standard 2.80 OAL / 2.05 case trime ? [2.845 is max in mag.box they stick after that] The Win Brass,an 168g SMK. was recommended before DanV so thats watt i bought an using. for a note- 1-12 twist which i just read today...a 170gr bullet should work best. So i guess i'll have to try the 175's Unclenick next time i trip to the gunshop .. can't wait to try this new baby out.. i made up a few diff... stages as Dimtris mention but started at 43. an stopped at Scotts 45. for now so will see i have some site-in an warm ammo left over from my M1A which i sold an now waiting on my scope to come
. 308 8" For bullets heavier than 220gr. 10" For bullets up to 220 gr. 12" For bullets up to 170 gr. 14"* For bullets up to 168 gr. 15"* For bullets up to 150 gr. |
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September 12, 2005, 11:32 AM
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MrGee, i have been keeping my COL at 2.887. I've been tinkering with the COL for a little bit. I just ordered a stony point gauge to measure where my lands are. I accidently forgot to order the adapter for the .308 so that is on the way. A very good gunsmith in the area told me to seat it at 2.888 and if that doesn't fit, back it to 2.887. I found that 2.887 works best for me...until i get that gauge in. I tried IMR 4064 today 42 grains. I had it on winchest brass, cci primer and 168 Sierra Match King. I shot it at 200 yards and my tightest 3 shot group was .74. My COL was 2.810 since i wanted them all to fit into the magazine. Was still pretty disappointed with the groups though. Weather was perfect too. I shot 43.9grains varget at 300 yards with my COL being 2.887 and had a .5inch 3-shot group at 300 yards. I'll keep experimenting and let you know. I am going to try reloader 15 next, then i'm going to switch to 175 SMK king and try imr, varget and realoder 15 with that.
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September 12, 2005, 06:32 PM
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DanV that stony point guage is the only way to go i tried stick'n the bullet on the end of the case an closing it in the chamber an reading it w/ dail calipers, i got so many diff... readings i gave up will be ordering the same soon a buddy of mine uses it as well... your groups are pretty impressive not bad you didn't mention watt brand 308 or did i mis-it to be REM........
a few years back one of the guys experimented w/ IMR 4064 in his 220 swift an loved it i;ve used it in 22-250 an M1A wasn't at all [but the there is H380 for 22- 'dah'] stop'd at sport store today ...forgot they're closed on Mondays here ... 175's next trip out 4-sure |
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September 13, 2005, 09:06 AM
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yeah, rem 700P 26" with leupold mark 4 8.5-25 LRT
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September 15, 2005, 07:18 AM
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Varget
Varget is made by Australian Defence Industries (ADI) under the Australian title of AR2208. Their website, which is excellent is under ADI.........
if you cant find it let me know. Also if your real keen I could post you over their latest manual when they release it in the next month. Good Luck Sean
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September 15, 2005, 05:42 PM
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www.snipershide.com has a plethora of information on loading the 308.
The brass to use is Lapua, with Win a close second. The primer to use is CCI BR2 with Varget. The lapua bullets are great too, but the benchmark would be the SMK. Anothe thought, is getting Nosler CC seconds from Nosler direct! |
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September 16, 2005, 09:04 AM
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I couldn't get the link that you posted to work. is it www.snipershide.com or did you leave somthing out?
Thanks, Rich |
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September 17, 2005, 08:18 AM
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Con..... just click on it in M22 post..... it opened for me.....???
SeanB what ever you can post thanks or. [email protected]
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September 17, 2005, 11:10 AM
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September 18, 2005, 05:58 PM
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Wildalaska i guess i will try it still wait'n on chance to git to the range....
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