Nosler Balistic Tip

Kyote · January 29, 2005, 11:05 PM

.30 cal. 150 and 165 grain variations. I've been hearing stories on how they sometimes litterally blow up on contact with game. Huge gaping holes on the "on side". Sometimes huge holes on the "off" side. Any stories on this from ya'll?

Leftoverdj · January 30, 2005, 02:48 AM

Not on the near side from me. On the far side, sure. You might get blowups with one of the big magnums at close range but not likely with a .308 or .30-06.

I ain't much of a hunter, but I usta spend time with a serious meat hunting crew. Seen 30-40 deer killed with .30 cal. BTs and the earlier SBs, mostly 165s. Those boys did not mind wasting a quarter if they anchored the deer. They went to the Noslers because they were losing deer to failure to expand on rib shots on smallish southern whitetails.

Dogjaw · January 30, 2005, 09:56 AM

Ballistic Tips are made for long range expansion and "practical velocities" per Nosler. The bullet exploding on impact might happen with rocket launchers (aka large magnums) at close range.

Crosshair · January 30, 2005, 10:50 AM

I don't have any experience with the 30 cal variations, but my 22-250 will push them to 3900 fps with no problems.

Lawyer Daggit · January 30, 2005, 11:41 PM

Every bullet is built to perform at a particular terminal velocity.

Subject to range involved, velocity at point of impact and how solid the target is (ie presence of bone etc) bullet may under expand, over expand or work just fine.

I use 120 gr BT's in my 7x57 and 125 grain BT's in a 30-30 Ackley Improved and 225 grain ones in a 35 Whelen.

I don't have problems with the 30-30 Ackley improved because it is a lot slower than a lot of 30 cals- as is the 7x57.

I suggest you not try for max horsepower with these bullets as if they are run very fast they will blow up.

impact · January 31, 2005, 12:56 AM

I think that the Nosler blow up in flight is all BS! I have used Nosler from everything to 222s to 30-06 with no problems. I used Nosler 130gr ballistic tip in my 270 with good results. Remember the bullet is full of lead. I have shot deer with the BTs that left a big hole all the way through the neck! like a 2 inch hole. The hydraulic shock must have been awesome.

I did see a 25-06 with BTs blow up on impact with a deer and not go through the deer but it killed it dead on impact. What was left of the bullet made it to the other side of the deer just under the skin.

osirus101 · January 31, 2005, 01:04 AM

I load em up in my 338 win mag and i havent had any problems they seem to be really accurate to me....cant say i had one "explode"

HankL · January 31, 2005, 10:53 AM

Here is a Thread from a few years back on the subject.

Rmouleart · January 31, 2005, 12:53 PM

I have been using the Nosler BT 200gr in my 338 Win mag for years, never had any problems, good mule deer bullet using the 338 win mag, accuracy was excelant to say the least, one hole at 100 yards is good enough for me

But if you are experencing separation as you say, go to the Nosler Partition/Fail safe's, this is a bullets that will not separate under most conditions, very hearty bullets. Aim small hit small. RAMbo.

Nnobby45 · January 31, 2005, 07:30 PM

Loaded some for a friend in 30-06 at about 2800fps. They were used to kill a couple of antelope. Both bullets exited with minimal destruction--both Antelope DRT. Both shots were between 100 and 200 yds.

impact · January 31, 2005, 08:28 PM

Thanks for the the thread Hankl! good read.

Ackley Improved User · January 31, 2005, 09:00 PM

I've had great success with Nosler BTs - very accurate and deadly on all North American game, including elk and caribou.

Kyote · January 31, 2005, 11:04 PM

What prompted this was that I went to the Midway site and they will let folks "rate" a product. Out of, I think, 5 posts three were talking about how the bullit just fubared the animal. I would like to shoot the B.T. but I hunt for the meat too. I would cringe at the thought of wasting a good shoulder roast!

Thanks to all for the input!

January 29, 2005, 11:05 PM	#1
Kyote Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 183	Nosler Balistic Tip .30 cal. 150 and 165 grain variations. I've been hearing stories on how they sometimes litterally blow up on contact with game. Huge gaping holes on the "on side". Sometimes huge holes on the "off" side. Any stories on this from ya'll? __________________ An armed society is a polite society.

January 30, 2005, 09:56 AM	#3
Dogjaw Senior Member Join Date: October 6, 2001 Location: S.W. Michigan Posts: 560	Ballistic Tips are made for long range expansion and "practical velocities" per Nosler. The bullet exploding on impact might happen with rocket launchers (aka large magnums) at close range. __________________ There are three kinds of men: 1) The ones that learn by reading. 2) The few who learn by observation. 3) The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves..........

January 30, 2005, 11:41 PM	#5
Lawyer Daggit Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Posts: 1,181	exploding Noslers Every bullet is built to perform at a particular terminal velocity. Subject to range involved, velocity at point of impact and how solid the target is (ie presence of bone etc) bullet may under expand, over expand or work just fine. I use 120 gr BT's in my 7x57 and 125 grain BT's in a 30-30 Ackley Improved and 225 grain ones in a 35 Whelen. I don't have problems with the 30-30 Ackley improved because it is a lot slower than a lot of 30 cals- as is the 7x57. I suggest you not try for max horsepower with these bullets as if they are run very fast they will blow up.

January 31, 2005, 10:53 AM	#8
HankL Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 1999 Location: The Sunny South Posts: 2,174	Thread From A Few Years Past Here is a Thread from a few years back on the subject.

January 31, 2005, 11:04 PM	#13
Kyote Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 183	What prompted this was that I went to the Midway site and they will let folks "rate" a product. Out of, I think, 5 posts three were talking about how the bullit just fubared the animal. I would like to shoot the B.T. but I hunt for the meat too. I would cringe at the thought of wasting a good shoulder roast! Thanks to all for the input! __________________ An armed society is a polite society.

January 30, 2005, 02:48 AM	#2
Leftoverdj Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 2004 Posts: 934	Not on the near side from me. On the far side, sure. You might get blowups with one of the big magnums at close range but not likely with a .308 or .30-06. I ain't much of a hunter, but I usta spend time with a serious meat hunting crew. Seen 30-40 deer killed with .30 cal. BTs and the earlier SBs, mostly 165s. Those boys did not mind wasting a quarter if they anchored the deer. They went to the Noslers because they were losing deer to failure to expand on rib shots on smallish southern whitetails.

January 30, 2005, 10:50 AM	#4
Crosshair Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 5,333	I don't have any experience with the 30 cal variations, but my 22-250 will push them to 3900 fps with no problems.

January 31, 2005, 12:56 AM	#6
impact Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2005 Location: the great state of Texas Posts: 854	I think that the Nosler blow up in flight is all BS! I have used Nosler from everything to 222s to 30-06 with no problems. I used Nosler 130gr ballistic tip in my 270 with good results. Remember the bullet is full of lead. I have shot deer with the BTs that left a big hole all the way through the neck! like a 2 inch hole. The hydraulic shock must have been awesome. I did see a 25-06 with BTs blow up on impact with a deer and not go through the deer but it killed it dead on impact. What was left of the bullet made it to the other side of the deer just under the skin.

January 31, 2005, 01:04 AM	#7
osirus101 Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2005 Location: alaska Posts: 183	I load em up in my 338 win mag and i havent had any problems they seem to be really accurate to me....cant say i had one "explode"

January 31, 2005, 12:53 PM	#9
Rmouleart Senior Member Join Date: September 24, 2002 Location: NH Posts: 141	I have been using the Nosler BT 200gr in my 338 Win mag for years, never had any problems, good mule deer bullet using the 338 win mag, accuracy was excelant to say the least, one hole at 100 yards is good enough for me But if you are experencing separation as you say, go to the Nosler Partition/Fail safe's, this is a bullets that will not separate under most conditions, very hearty bullets. Aim small hit small. RAMbo.

January 31, 2005, 07:30 PM	#10
Nnobby45 Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2004 Posts: 3,150	Loaded some for a friend in 30-06 at about 2800fps. They were used to kill a couple of antelope. Both bullets exited with minimal destruction--both Antelope DRT. Both shots were between 100 and 200 yds.

January 31, 2005, 08:28 PM	#11
impact Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2005 Location: the great state of Texas Posts: 854	Thanks for the the thread Hankl! good read.

January 31, 2005, 09:00 PM	#12
Ackley Improved User Member Join Date: January 31, 2005 Posts: 56	I've had great success with Nosler BTs - very accurate and deadly on all North American game, including elk and caribou.