shooting at a Manhattan McDonalds

alan · November 10, 2015, 10:56 PM

Strange to note, the plethora of existing gun laws in this country, plus an unusually large quotient that are peculiar to New York, State and City were not sufficient to prevent this latest criminal action. Obviously, more gun laws are needed. Strange to note, while more laws might be enacted, they, like those already existing, won't work either. Of course, the law abiding might be impacted, though that is not the purpose of enacting gun laws, or is it?

Kosh75287 · November 10, 2015, 11:05 PM

That is PRECISELY the purpose of the gun laws, whether the promulgators will admit it or not.

**Aguila Blanca** · November 10, 2015, 11:25 PM

This story is a falsehood. It is impossible. Everyone knows that only the police are allowed to have guns in New York City.

rickyrick · November 11, 2015, 12:30 AM

I'm sure it will come out that the gun came from the south.

mete · November 11, 2015, 03:59 AM

McDonald's changed the recipe of their beef this year .That probably set the guy off !!

But things happen at those places. I watched a bald eagle catch a small animal no more than 25yds from the parking lot of a McDonald's !! I thought I was the only one who knew about that animal trail !

BarryLee · November 11, 2015, 02:04 PM

Regrettably the anti-gun folks will use this and similar situations to justify their actions. Remember in urban environments most people only associate guns with crime and not their more proper uses.

This falls right into the growing trend in this country to deny others their freedoms simply because you don’t like those activities. For instance we see calls to stop hunting simply because some don’t like to hunt, so no one else should either. This week I heard a protestor at a college campus state that freedom of speech should be restricted if it makes her feel uncomfortable. Also, a journalism professor attacked a student journalist because he was covering a public protest.

Sadly we have gone from battling over how much freedom we should have to battling over how much we should have taken away.

Sharkbite · November 11, 2015, 02:38 PM

The shooting didnt even happen at the Mc D's. It happened in the subway station close by.

The shooter went into McD's before heading into the subway station and opening fire.

Glenn E. Meyer · November 12, 2015, 10:50 AM

Just an urban crime story. Standard comments, No links to the story. Thus, nothing to see here.

Closed without prejudice. Got something really interesting to add, let me know through PM.

November 10, 2015, 10:56 PM	#1
alan Senior Member Join Date: June 7, 1999 Posts: 3,847	shooting at a Manhattan McDonalds Strange to note, the plethora of existing gun laws in this country, plus an unusually large quotient that are peculiar to New York, State and City were not sufficient to prevent this latest criminal action. Obviously, more gun laws are needed. Strange to note, while more laws might be enacted, they, like those already existing, won't work either. Of course, the law abiding might be impacted, though that is not the purpose of enacting gun laws, or is it?

November 10, 2015, 11:05 PM	#2
Kosh75287 Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 2007 Posts: 820	That is PRECISELY the purpose of the gun laws, whether the promulgators will admit it or not. __________________ GOD BLESS JEFF COOPER, whose instructions, consultations, and publications have probably saved more lives than can ever be reliably calculated. DVC, sir. انجلو. المسلحة. جاهزة. Carpe SCOTCH!

November 11, 2015, 12:30 AM	#4
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,238	I'm sure it will come out that the gun came from the south. __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

November 11, 2015, 03:59 AM	#5
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	McDonald's changed the recipe of their beef this year .That probably set the guy off !! But things happen at those places. I watched a bald eagle catch a small animal no more than 25yds from the parking lot of a McDonald's !! I thought I was the only one who knew about that animal trail ! __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

November 11, 2015, 02:04 PM	#6
BarryLee Senior Member Join Date: July 29, 2010 Location: The ATL (OTP) Posts: 3,946	Regrettably the anti-gun folks will use this and similar situations to justify their actions. Remember in urban environments most people only associate guns with crime and not their more proper uses. This falls right into the growing trend in this country to deny others their freedoms simply because you don’t like those activities. For instance we see calls to stop hunting simply because some don’t like to hunt, so no one else should either. This week I heard a protestor at a college campus state that freedom of speech should be restricted if it makes her feel uncomfortable. Also, a journalism professor attacked a student journalist because he was covering a public protest. Sadly we have gone from battling over how much freedom we should have to battling over how much we should have taken away. __________________ A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it ... gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

November 10, 2015, 11:25 PM	#3
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,468	This story is a falsehood. It is impossible. Everyone knows that only the police are allowed to have guns in New York City.

November 11, 2015, 02:38 PM	#7
Sharkbite Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2013 Location: Western slope of Colorado Posts: 3,679	The shooting didnt even happen at the Mc D's. It happened in the subway station close by. The shooter went into McD's before heading into the subway station and opening fire.

November 12, 2015, 10:50 AM	#8
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Just an urban crime story. Standard comments, No links to the story. Thus, nothing to see here. Closed without prejudice. Got something really interesting to add, let me know through PM. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens