What About Ruger Owners?????????

flstfi · January 7, 2006, 01:01 PM

I have a Ruger #1 chambered in .357 Mag. All of the reloading data I have found so far refers to lever actions and warns aginst using spire bullets. I dont have the tubular magazine problem.

What I am looking for is a good spire in about 100-160 gr that gives me a better ballistic coefficient for longer more accurate shots on varmints. This is with varmint shooting in mind.

Please advise..................

steveno · January 7, 2006, 02:48 PM

at one time Hornady made some 180 grain spire point for single shot pistols. midway had some 150 grain spire points that were originally used in the 35 remington. I don't think you will find any pointed bullets lighter than those two

gm110656 · January 7, 2006, 03:55 PM

100 grain in .357 spire point? I can't imagine that being offered by anyone. You might look into the new Hornady LeveRevolution components. They offer a 35 remington with a 200 grain step child of the Balistic Tip which might suit your needs.

flstfi · January 8, 2006, 08:53 AM

I am aware of the sillouette projectiles. However they are 180 and 200 grain. Very stable and coeffficient, but way too heavy and not flat shooting with lousy MOA. 200 grains on Yotes and Prairie Dogs is a bit much I think

impact · January 8, 2006, 10:56 AM

A Ruger #1 is a strong gun. I would look into reaming the chamber into a 357 MAX. Going from 375 mag to 357 max is like going from 38 special to 357 mag.

Wrangler5 · January 8, 2006, 03:11 PM

Ballistic coefficient generally goes up as the length of a bullet increases. As the length increases for a given bullet diameter, of course the weight goes up too.

Looking at a Speer reloading manual for 357/358 rifle rounds, it appears that the pistol bullets (up to 158 grains) all have ballistic coefficients in the 0.16 range - of course these are all jacketed hollow points, which you would not expect to be very efficient aerodynamically. With the rifle bullets (starting at 180 grains) you get pointed noses, and find ballistic coefficients beginning at 0.25 and ranging up to 0.45 for the 250 grain spitzer. (Shape matters, but weight seems to matter more.) In the 357 Maximum data, the heaviest bullet recommended is 220g with a BC of 0.316.

To get a ballistic coefficient in the mid-4s (the best of the 35 calibers) at lighter bullet weights you could go down to 165g in 30 caliber, 145g in 7mm, 100g in 6mm, etc.

January 7, 2006, 01:01 PM	#1
flstfi Member Join Date: March 28, 2005 Location: California Posts: 44	What About Ruger Owners????????? I have a Ruger #1 chambered in .357 Mag. All of the reloading data I have found so far refers to lever actions and warns aginst using spire bullets. I dont have the tubular magazine problem. What I am looking for is a good spire in about 100-160 gr that gives me a better ballistic coefficient for longer more accurate shots on varmints. This is with varmint shooting in mind. Please advise.................. Last edited by flstfi; January 8, 2006 at 08:56 AM.

January 7, 2006, 02:48 PM	#2
steveno Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2004 Location: Minden , Nebraska Posts: 1,407	at one time Hornady made some 180 grain spire point for single shot pistols. midway had some 150 grain spire points that were originally used in the 35 remington. I don't think you will find any pointed bullets lighter than those two

January 7, 2006, 03:55 PM	#3
gm110656 Member Join Date: December 21, 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 16	100 grain in .357 spire point? I can't imagine that being offered by anyone. You might look into the new Hornady LeveRevolution components. They offer a 35 remington with a 200 grain step child of the Balistic Tip which might suit your needs.

January 8, 2006, 08:53 AM	#4
flstfi Member Join Date: March 28, 2005 Location: California Posts: 44	I am aware of the sillouette projectiles. However they are 180 and 200 grain. Very stable and coeffficient, but way too heavy and not flat shooting with lousy MOA. 200 grains on Yotes and Prairie Dogs is a bit much I think

January 8, 2006, 10:56 AM	#5
impact Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2005 Location: the great state of Texas Posts: 854	A Ruger #1 is a strong gun. I would look into reaming the chamber into a 357 MAX. Going from 375 mag to 357 max is like going from 38 special to 357 mag.

January 8, 2006, 03:11 PM	#6
Wrangler5 Senior Member Join Date: September 18, 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 326	Ballistic coefficient generally goes up as the length of a bullet increases. As the length increases for a given bullet diameter, of course the weight goes up too. Looking at a Speer reloading manual for 357/358 rifle rounds, it appears that the pistol bullets (up to 158 grains) all have ballistic coefficients in the 0.16 range - of course these are all jacketed hollow points, which you would not expect to be very efficient aerodynamically. With the rifle bullets (starting at 180 grains) you get pointed noses, and find ballistic coefficients beginning at 0.25 and ranging up to 0.45 for the 250 grain spitzer. (Shape matters, but weight seems to matter more.) In the 357 Maximum data, the heaviest bullet recommended is 220g with a BC of 0.316. To get a ballistic coefficient in the mid-4s (the best of the 35 calibers) at lighter bullet weights you could go down to 165g in 30 caliber, 145g in 7mm, 100g in 6mm, etc.