looking for a low recoil 45-70

bullfrog99 · December 6, 2000, 10:29 PM

i have a marlin guide gun, and i am looking for a plinking load (someting soft on the shoulder) for practiceing with on the 50 yard range.

Robert the41MagFan · December 6, 2000, 11:49 PM

A 300 grain Oregon Trail lead FP over 25 grains of 2400. Very light and extremely accurate.

Robert

Dubletap45 · December 7, 2000, 01:11 AM

I have an 1895SS. I have had pretty good results with just about all of the "reduced" loads. I have to admit that a light load is a subjective thing. Compared to the full strength loads they are not as painfull, but they still pack a little punch. All things said I like them, and for 50 yds, they are great. I'd suggest finding a reduced load for whatever youi have lieing around. at 50 yards accuracy is not really a big deal. Heck a 1" group is almost three shots touching. Just plink away & enjoy. I'd go with a cast bullet to save some $$. My latest batch is 38.6 of H4895 undar a 405 grain cast bullet. Shoots pretty well and doesn't beat you to death. I took the scope off so 50-100 yards is all I would shoot it at anyway.

Big Ike · December 7, 2000, 06:33 AM

Tap,
I got ahold of the reloading techs at Sierra and told them I wanted the same thing you do, a light, accurate, and fun to shoot load for my 14" Contender barrel in 45-70 using Remington 300gr JHP's.
They told me to use Unique and start at 13.5grs and work my up in 1/2gr increments from there.
I made up five loads of five rounds each and shot them off of bags at 100yds with a Simmons Gold Medal 2.5x7 pistol scope mounted on the barrel.
The load it really liked was 15.5grs and I had one large jagged hole at 100yds.
I was really impressed with the accuracy and it made the 45-70 Contender fun to shoot for extended periods.
I don't own a chrony so I can't tell you how fast the 15.5gr load is moving but Sierra did estimate the 13.5gr load would be moving right at 1100fps out of my 14" barrel.

mtnbkr · December 7, 2000, 09:32 AM

Go to http://www.sixgunner.com and find Paco Kelly's recent article on Bullseye powder. IIRC, theres a section in the article where he talks about a load for the 45-70 using that powder that is nearly silent. I would assume that it's soft shooting to the extreme. You might also check out his other articles on the 45-70 as well. While he is a max power fan, he does like light loads for special purposes.

Chris

Robert the41MagFan · December 7, 2000, 01:45 PM

Nothing is silent from a Guide Gun.........

Robert

mtnbkr · December 7, 2000, 02:53 PM

Never said it was silent from the guide gun, said the load is a supposedly silent 45-70 load. Anyway, your post made me go back and check the exact language of the article. To my horror, I realized that it didn't mention Bullseye in the 45-70, it mentions Bullseye under Black Powder for the 45-90. He also mentions a silent load using Bullseye in the 6.5x55mm. I think that is what I was thinking about.

Here's the article if you're interested: http://www.sixgunner.com/paco/pprofile11.htm

Sorry for the confusion,
Chris

December 6, 2000, 10:29 PM	#1
bullfrog99 Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2000 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 811	i have a marlin guide gun, and i am looking for a plinking load (someting soft on the shoulder) for practiceing with on the 50 yard range.

December 6, 2000, 11:49 PM	#2
Robert the41MagFan Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 1999 Posts: 1,233	A 300 grain Oregon Trail lead FP over 25 grains of 2400. Very light and extremely accurate. Robert

December 7, 2000, 01:11 AM	#3
Dubletap45 Member Join Date: October 1, 2000 Posts: 28	I have an 1895SS. I have had pretty good results with just about all of the "reduced" loads. I have to admit that a light load is a subjective thing. Compared to the full strength loads they are not as painfull, but they still pack a little punch. All things said I like them, and for 50 yds, they are great. I'd suggest finding a reduced load for whatever youi have lieing around. at 50 yards accuracy is not really a big deal. Heck a 1" group is almost three shots touching. Just plink away & enjoy. I'd go with a cast bullet to save some $$. My latest batch is 38.6 of H4895 undar a 405 grain cast bullet. Shoots pretty well and doesn't beat you to death. I took the scope off so 50-100 yards is all I would shoot it at anyway.

December 7, 2000, 06:33 AM	#4
Big Ike Junior Member Join Date: October 20, 2000 Posts: 8	Tap, I got ahold of the reloading techs at Sierra and told them I wanted the same thing you do, a light, accurate, and fun to shoot load for my 14" Contender barrel in 45-70 using Remington 300gr JHP's. They told me to use Unique and start at 13.5grs and work my up in 1/2gr increments from there. I made up five loads of five rounds each and shot them off of bags at 100yds with a Simmons Gold Medal 2.5x7 pistol scope mounted on the barrel. The load it really liked was 15.5grs and I had one large jagged hole at 100yds. I was really impressed with the accuracy and it made the 45-70 Contender fun to shoot for extended periods. I don't own a chrony so I can't tell you how fast the 15.5gr load is moving but Sierra did estimate the 13.5gr load would be moving right at 1100fps out of my 14" barrel.

December 7, 2000, 09:32 AM	#5
mtnbkr Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2000 Location: Manassas, Virginia Posts: 914	Go to http://www.sixgunner.com and find Paco Kelly's recent article on Bullseye powder. IIRC, theres a section in the article where he talks about a load for the 45-70 using that powder that is nearly silent. I would assume that it's soft shooting to the extreme. You might also check out his other articles on the 45-70 as well. While he is a max power fan, he does like light loads for special purposes. Chris

December 7, 2000, 01:45 PM	#6
Robert the41MagFan Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 1999 Posts: 1,233	Nothing is silent from a Guide Gun......... Robert

December 7, 2000, 02:53 PM	#7
mtnbkr Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2000 Location: Manassas, Virginia Posts: 914	Never said it was silent from the guide gun, said the load is a supposedly silent 45-70 load. Anyway, your post made me go back and check the exact language of the article. To my horror, I realized that it didn't mention Bullseye in the 45-70, it mentions Bullseye under Black Powder for the 45-90. He also mentions a silent load using Bullseye in the 6.5x55mm. I think that is what I was thinking about. Here's the article if you're interested: http://www.sixgunner.com/paco/pprofile11.htm Sorry for the confusion, Chris