Savage re barrel - Page 2

reynolds357 · February 11, 2014, 01:52 PM

From my personal experience with Savages, Savage does what it wants when it wants. There does not seem to be any absolutes with them.
That is not a negative on Savage. Savage has always prided themselves on their rifles being built by "rifle smiths" and not assembly line workers. Each rifle turns out a bit individual.

4runnerman · February 11, 2014, 06:23 PM

Agree reynolds357- All 9 of mine are shooters for sure. Sure hope this new barrel works out for me.

Nathan · February 12, 2014, 08:27 AM

Thread sealant can be used for a variety of reasons....usually to counter warranty(loose barrel), provide a secondary lock (torque + thread lock), water intrusion blocker, tamper resistance, or to mask an improper joint. I'm guessing it is the last one since the thread diameters are so large and the nut is so small that it probably doesn't properly friction lock with the applied torque. Add to that it is loaded cyclically and failure causes a total loss of use....this is likey why they use thread locker.

Without testing, I have no way of knowing if needed, but I thing know is the generally accepted answer.

A light oil combined with a torque intended for light oil is the way to go. Check torque after 10 rounds and make your call from there.

Eppie · February 12, 2014, 08:38 AM

I believe there is a simpler reason: liability protection.

4runnerman · February 12, 2014, 06:42 PM

I have viewed numerous videos on barrel install's. All of them suggest using some form of thread sealant. I opted not to. I ordered a new machined,thicker barrel nut or lug?. If we can get above 15 below this weekend,I sure would like to put some rounds down it.

Eppie · February 12, 2014, 07:10 PM

Man you're crazy. Stay home where it's warm. I can't even imagine that kind of cold.

4runnerman · February 12, 2014, 07:53 PM

Eppie- I tell ya. I just can't do that. It's like a obsession with me. I have to shoot. I have a Ice House ( old one) That is a 2 person. 4 ft wide by 6 ft long.
I took one of the doors ( 4 ft side all tarp by the way ) and cut it out. Now I can set my portable bench in it and fire up the Ice house heater and stay so so warm as long as the wind is not dead into me.

Brian Pfleuger · February 12, 2014, 08:02 PM

I'm with Eppie... -15?!

NO!

Heck, I don't go shooting at +15... make that +40.

Uh uh. I enjoy it but I hate the cold the way the devil hates good.

It better be warm or I ain't go...

and it better not be hot or I ain't going either.

4runnerman · February 12, 2014, 08:32 PM

Brian--I thought you would shoot in anything too. You get some very cold stuff there too. I don't know,,Ya get things set up. Load a round,shoot,maybe take a second shot. Warm hands while barrel cools

ha ha. I hate shooting with gloves on. Funny thing is- I can sit out Yote hunting all day in that stuff and it don't bother me at all,but sitting at a bench just seems to make it colder. The worst is walking 300 yards in snow up to your neck to set up target. Heck by the time you get back to the bench you need a nap your so darn exhausted.

Eppie · February 12, 2014, 09:58 PM

4runnerman, my hats off to you. You are a truly hardy soul. I pray for an early spring for you.

Brian Pfleuger · February 12, 2014, 10:22 PM

Me? Shoot in the cold?! Stay thy tongue!

My idea of shooting in cold weather is about 55.

I'm in the wrong state, for sure.

reynolds357 · February 12, 2014, 10:35 PM

I hunt in the cold but recreational shooting is not very recreational if its cold.

4runnerman · February 13, 2014, 06:04 AM

Good point Reynolds. You look at the temp in your vehicle on way out ( 20 Mile drive). You think 17 below,10 to 15 MPH wind, Ya- I will have the range to myself,, Nope-You pull in and that's when you realize you are not the only Idiot. There are 3 or 4 other cars there and the only bench left is the one set for shooters that are,,, I don't know maybe 12 feet tall. Ya we have one out of 5 benches there that for some reason is just way to tall. You sit with your leg tucked under your butt and your still not high enough to use it.

All aside though, I am still getting trigger time and having fun. We have a indoor range I can go to for $20.00, but Pistol is just not as fun, I go there maybe 2 times each winter just to brush up and stay on top of my poor shooting with a pistol. If your the broad side of a Barn 50 feet away--Go ahead a tease me,because you are in no danger of getting hit

hbhobby · February 13, 2014, 04:10 PM

I have to take the oppertunity to rub it in! Here at my house today 70 degrees Arizona is awesome for so many reasons but weather is the best one now!

Brian Pfleuger · February 13, 2014, 05:40 PM

Yes... well.. talk to me in August.

Actually, Payson seems a lot like Grand Junction, CO, which is close to my favorite places in the world.

4runnerman · February 13, 2014, 06:49 PM

Ya---- well we made 6 above today ha ha. It was like a heat wave.

February 11, 2014, 01:52 PM	#26
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	From my personal experience with Savages, Savage does what it wants when it wants. There does not seem to be any absolutes with them. That is not a negative on Savage. Savage has always prided themselves on their rifles being built by "rifle smiths" and not assembly line workers. Each rifle turns out a bit individual. Last edited by reynolds357; February 11, 2014 at 02:10 PM.

February 11, 2014, 06:23 PM	#27
4runnerman Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,577	Agree reynolds357- All 9 of mine are shooters for sure. Sure hope this new barrel works out for me. __________________ NRA Certified RSO NwCP- Performance Isn't Optional

February 12, 2014, 08:38 AM	#29
Eppie Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 802	I believe there is a simpler reason: liability protection. __________________ "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.” -Vladimir Lenin "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Thomas Jefferson (An early warning to Obama care)

February 12, 2014, 06:42 PM	#30
4runnerman Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,577	I have viewed numerous videos on barrel install's. All of them suggest using some form of thread sealant. I opted not to. I ordered a new machined,thicker barrel nut or lug?. If we can get above 15 below this weekend,I sure would like to put some rounds down it. __________________ NRA Certified RSO NwCP- Performance Isn't Optional

February 12, 2014, 07:10 PM	#31
Eppie Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 802	Man you're crazy. Stay home where it's warm. I can't even imagine that kind of cold. __________________ "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.” -Vladimir Lenin "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Thomas Jefferson (An early warning to Obama care)

February 12, 2014, 08:27 AM	#28
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,328	Thread sealant can be used for a variety of reasons....usually to counter warranty(loose barrel), provide a secondary lock (torque + thread lock), water intrusion blocker, tamper resistance, or to mask an improper joint. I'm guessing it is the last one since the thread diameters are so large and the nut is so small that it probably doesn't properly friction lock with the applied torque. Add to that it is loaded cyclically and failure causes a total loss of use....this is likey why they use thread locker. Without testing, I have no way of knowing if needed, but I thing know is the generally accepted answer. A light oil combined with a torque intended for light oil is the way to go. Check torque after 10 rounds and make your call from there.

February 12, 2014, 07:53 PM	#32
4runnerman Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,577	Eppie- I tell ya. I just can't do that. It's like a obsession with me. I have to shoot. I have a Ice House ( old one) That is a 2 person. 4 ft wide by 6 ft long. I took one of the doors ( 4 ft side all tarp by the way ) and cut it out. Now I can set my portable bench in it and fire up the Ice house heater and stay so so warm as long as the wind is not dead into me. __________________ NRA Certified RSO NwCP- Performance Isn't Optional

February 12, 2014, 08:02 PM	#33
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	I'm with Eppie... -15?! NO! Heck, I don't go shooting at +15... make that +40. Uh uh. I enjoy it but I hate the cold the way the devil hates good. It better be warm or I ain't go... and it better not be hot or I ain't going either. __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley

February 12, 2014, 08:32 PM	#34
4runnerman Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,577	Brian--I thought you would shoot in anything too. You get some very cold stuff there too. I don't know,,Ya get things set up. Load a round,shoot,maybe take a second shot. Warm hands while barrel cools ha ha. I hate shooting with gloves on. Funny thing is- I can sit out Yote hunting all day in that stuff and it don't bother me at all,but sitting at a bench just seems to make it colder. The worst is walking 300 yards in snow up to your neck to set up target. Heck by the time you get back to the bench you need a nap your so darn exhausted. __________________ NRA Certified RSO NwCP- Performance Isn't Optional Last edited by 4runnerman; February 12, 2014 at 09:33 PM.

February 12, 2014, 09:58 PM	#35
Eppie Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 802	4runnerman, my hats off to you. You are a truly hardy soul. I pray for an early spring for you. __________________ "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.” -Vladimir Lenin "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Thomas Jefferson (An early warning to Obama care)

February 12, 2014, 10:22 PM	#36
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	Me? Shoot in the cold?! Stay thy tongue! My idea of shooting in cold weather is about 55. I'm in the wrong state, for sure.

February 12, 2014, 10:35 PM	#37
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	I hunt in the cold but recreational shooting is not very recreational if its cold.

February 13, 2014, 06:04 AM	#38
4runnerman Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,577	Good point Reynolds. You look at the temp in your vehicle on way out ( 20 Mile drive). You think 17 below,10 to 15 MPH wind, Ya- I will have the range to myself,, Nope-You pull in and that's when you realize you are not the only Idiot. There are 3 or 4 other cars there and the only bench left is the one set for shooters that are,,, I don't know maybe 12 feet tall. Ya we have one out of 5 benches there that for some reason is just way to tall. You sit with your leg tucked under your butt and your still not high enough to use it. All aside though, I am still getting trigger time and having fun. We have a indoor range I can go to for $20.00, but Pistol is just not as fun, I go there maybe 2 times each winter just to brush up and stay on top of my poor shooting with a pistol. If your the broad side of a Barn 50 feet away--Go ahead a tease me,because you are in no danger of getting hit __________________ NRA Certified RSO NwCP- Performance Isn't Optional

February 13, 2014, 04:10 PM	#39
hbhobby Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2013 Location: Payson Az Posts: 169	I have to take the oppertunity to rub it in! Here at my house today 70 degrees Arizona is awesome for so many reasons but weather is the best one now!

February 13, 2014, 05:40 PM	#40
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	Yes... well.. talk to me in August. Actually, Payson seems a lot like Grand Junction, CO, which is close to my favorite places in the world. __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley

February 13, 2014, 06:49 PM	#41
4runnerman Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,577	Ya---- well we made 6 above today ha ha. It was like a heat wave. __________________ NRA Certified RSO NwCP- Performance Isn't Optional