9mm subsonic loads with ww231 powder

AFrankart · January 23, 2009, 10:06 AM

A friend of mine is into reloading and he does all my reloading for me. Now I am working on find a nice subsonic load for my X5 tac with silencer. I have lots of WW231 powder laying around that I would like to use, but I am having a hard time finding loading charts for 147 grain 9mm loads with that particular powder. Are there any other powders that burn the same a 231 that I can substitute reloading info for?

I have Hornady encapsulated 147 Fmj bullets and was planning on starting at 3.6 grains and working our way up to around 4.0 or so. I would like to see between 950 and 975 fps with the can on.

If anyone has some pointers or has loaded some subsonic loads with WW231, please chime in, I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks

joneb · January 23, 2009, 11:57 AM

W-231 seems to fast for a 147 FMJ at 950fps, maybe 900 ? WSF, AA#5 or HS-6 would be a better way to go.

TATER · January 23, 2009, 03:05 PM

I use BlueDOT for 147 XTPs

9mm Luger
5.6 grains BlueDOT
147 gr XTP
Win. Brass
CCI Small Pistol Primer
890 to 925 fps Out of FNHiPower

PCJim · January 23, 2009, 03:09 PM

The speed of sound is approximately 1,070 fps. Any load data that would provide a safe cushion below this velocity, say 1,000 to 1,025 while considering what a flyer on the high side could be, will be subsonic. I don't have access to my loading books right now to look up a suitable recipe.

444 · January 23, 2009, 05:29 PM

I have used 231 to load 9mm 147 grain bullets at subsonic velocity. However, I can't find the load data I used. I just checked (I remembered seeing it) and I even have the label on a box that says Subsonic 9mm with 231 powder but it doesn't list the charge weight and the ammo in the box is loaded with a different powder (clearly labeled):

I would recommend you use Power Pistol powder.

FWIW: I shoot a lot of subsonic 9mm. I have two 9mm suppressors that I can put on about four different handguns as well as a suppressed AR15 upper from LRM. I buy 9mm 147s, 2000 bullets at a time. I go through them much faster than I like.

January 23, 2009, 10:06 AM	#1
AFrankart Member Join Date: December 30, 2007 Location: Tiffin, OH Posts: 24	9mm subsonic loads with ww231 powder A friend of mine is into reloading and he does all my reloading for me. Now I am working on find a nice subsonic load for my X5 tac with silencer. I have lots of WW231 powder laying around that I would like to use, but I am having a hard time finding loading charts for 147 grain 9mm loads with that particular powder. Are there any other powders that burn the same a 231 that I can substitute reloading info for? I have Hornady encapsulated 147 Fmj bullets and was planning on starting at 3.6 grains and working our way up to around 4.0 or so. I would like to see between 950 and 975 fps with the can on. If anyone has some pointers or has loaded some subsonic loads with WW231, please chime in, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks __________________ GrayGuns P220ST ~ P229R ~ P239SAS ~ X5 Tactical TB

January 23, 2009, 11:57 AM	#2
joneb Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2005 Location: Central , OR Posts: 1,888	W-231 seems to fast for a 147 FMJ at 950fps, maybe 900 ? WSF, AA#5 or HS-6 would be a better way to go.

January 23, 2009, 03:05 PM	#3
TATER Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 963	I use BlueDOT for 147 XTPs 9mm Luger 5.6 grains BlueDOT 147 gr XTP Win. Brass CCI Small Pistol Primer 890 to 925 fps Out of FNHiPower

January 23, 2009, 03:09 PM	#4
PCJim Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2008 Location: FL Posts: 570	The speed of sound is approximately 1,070 fps. Any load data that would provide a safe cushion below this velocity, say 1,000 to 1,025 while considering what a flyer on the high side could be, will be subsonic. I don't have access to my loading books right now to look up a suitable recipe.

January 23, 2009, 05:29 PM	#5
444 Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,968	I have used 231 to load 9mm 147 grain bullets at subsonic velocity. However, I can't find the load data I used. I just checked (I remembered seeing it) and I even have the label on a box that says Subsonic 9mm with 231 powder but it doesn't list the charge weight and the ammo in the box is loaded with a different powder (clearly labeled): I would recommend you use Power Pistol powder. FWIW: I shoot a lot of subsonic 9mm. I have two 9mm suppressors that I can put on about four different handguns as well as a suppressed AR15 upper from LRM. I buy 9mm 147s, 2000 bullets at a time. I go through them much faster than I like. __________________ You know the rest. In the books you have read How the British Regulars fired and fled, How the farmers gave them ball for ball, From behind each fence and farmyard wall, Chasing the redcoats down the lane, Then crossing the fields to emerge again Under the trees at the turn of the road, And only pausing to fire and load.