Why does every one hate the XD grip safety - Page 2

Auto426 · February 7, 2011, 01:42 AM

I'm just saying that in a struggle where two people are fighting over a gun and no one has real control over it, which also likely means no one has control over where it's pointing, having the gun not fire due to the grip safety could very well be a good thing. It could potentially save your life or the life of an innocent bystander. If you have enough control of the gun to point it at the BG, then you likely have enough of a grip to disengage the grip safety thereby allowing the gun to fire.

Tactical Jackalope · February 7, 2011, 01:44 AM

Absolutely agreed! I'm not saying every gun should have it but I don't mind or look at a gun differently if it does have one. Especially a 1911, never noticed it was even there. Depends on the person. Same reason +1

vikingextreme93 · February 7, 2011, 01:51 AM

honestly of the people here in the real world that I know that have fired or own the XD I have never heard a complaint about the grip safety.

bigghoss · February 7, 2011, 02:23 AM

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I believe the reason many 1911's have speed bumps is also the reason many of them have front cocking serrations and FLGR's. It's all about the show, not the go. I personally hate a speed bump on 1911 grip safety because I don't like the way it presses into my hand. I find them completely useless, and much prefer the bumpless ones.

that may be true. my springer has a GS with a speed bump and it feels good to me but I never had trouble with my other 1911 without the bump.

4runnerman · February 7, 2011, 06:53 AM

I personally hate a speed bump on 1911 grip safety because I don't like the way it presses into my hand. I find them completely useless, and much prefer the bumpless ones

How does it press into yourhand?. It takes no pressure at all to push it in.

Leejack · February 7, 2011, 07:38 AM

So guys can get on the internet and have something to complain about.

jeepman4804 · February 7, 2011, 07:51 AM

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honestly of the people here in the real world that I know that have fired or own the XD I have never heard a complaint about the grip safety.

I own one and carry it for work every day... I hate the grip safety. I have noticed that sometimes while doing malfunction drills I have to readjust my grip to get the gun out of battery. This is do to me jogging the gun slightly sideways to drop the mag and clear the gun. I also think it is pointless on a striker fired gun with a trigger safety and a long heavy pull.

On a 1911 it is a different story, and on a 1911 the grip safety does not lock the slide into battery...

average · February 7, 2011, 09:08 AM

The concern for most people who dislike them lies with the fact that in a high stress situation not everyone takes a proper grip and stance and cooly alignes the sights and fires well aimed shots. It just doesnt always happen that way in the real world. When one must fire quickly in a less than ideal situation with a possibly injured hand, the gs could be seen by some as a liability.

Auto426 · February 7, 2011, 09:35 AM

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I personally hate a speed bump on 1911 grip safety because I don't like the way it presses into my hand. I find them completely useless, and much prefer the bumpless ones

How does it press into yourhand?. It takes no pressure at all to push it in.

Because with my hands and my grip on the gun the speed bump actually sticks out from the back of the fun and presses uncomfortably into my hand. A normal smooth 1911 GS also takes no effort at all to press in and is much more comfortable for me.

verdun59 · February 7, 2011, 01:10 PM

It's really a non issue; however there is a certain segment of people who love to repeat that the grip safety is a problem, and if that doesn't convince you that XDs aren't as good as xyz or g, then they will tell you the bore axis is tooooo high, or as the last resort that it's made in kro-a-sha. Personally I don't mind the safety and my XD9 is as accurate and reliable as any gun I own.

Rick_A · February 7, 2011, 01:20 PM

personally i don't like it, i feel that it needs to be a little bit larger that way it COULD be disengaged with an improper grip. As to it being the same as a 1911 grip safety i would disagree. Most 1911 safeties seem alot bigger and easier to disengage.

But that's just ME

ekgandj · February 7, 2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by vikingextreme93

honestly of the people here in the real world that I know that have fired or own the XD I have never heard a complaint about the grip safety.

That is because the people who complain about it are mostly glock lovers and can not find anything else to complain about the gun.

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4runnerman · February 7, 2011, 01:37 PM

It was actually the deciding factor in my wifes case.9MM xdm. Sweet pistol.Love it,Might have to claim it as my own

DonutGuy · February 7, 2011, 04:06 PM

I don't like it, I prefer the feel of Glock, but I could get used to it. I just haven't owned any guns with grip safeties, but again I could get used to it I think.

Iron Deacon · February 7, 2011, 07:47 PM

FWIT - used one for CCW practice...saw it was there, but never really noticed an effect on my grip or my shooting.

Personally, thought the XD was as comfortable to shoot as my Glocks...and I like my Glocks a lot.

The Master Chief · February 7, 2011, 07:54 PM

I don't hate them. I think it is a great safety feature borrowed from a 100 yr old design.

MythBuster · February 7, 2011, 08:02 PM

"personally i don't like it, i feel that it needs to be a little bit larger that way it COULD be disengaged with an improper grip. As to it being the same as a 1911 grip safety i would disagree. Most 1911 safeties seem alot bigger and easier to disengage."

That has not been my experience. I find the grip safety on the XD MUCH more foolproof than the 1911 grip safety.

I have never even once had an XD fail to fire from an improper grip. I can't say that about 1911's.

SPUSCG · February 7, 2011, 08:04 PM

Id rather not have a grip safety, but it being there isn't a problem.

khegglie · February 7, 2011, 08:07 PM

Isnt the springfield a single action with the striker fully cocked unlike Glocks partial cocked ? Grip safety sounds like a good feature for the springer.

gregjc9 · February 7, 2011, 08:26 PM

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Reasons/excuses are aplenty:
1. It's one more item that can break.
2. Not holding the gun correctly will not allow the gun to fire.
3. Some just HAVE to find something to grip about the XD.

I had an XDm, I used it primarily in IDPA. I certainly didnt hate it, I did really like it. But I wished the grip safety was a little longer, more like a 1911. There were more than one occasions during matches that for various reasons, my grip was just incorrect enough that the XDm would not fire. Granted, my grip should have been correct, but when the SHTF, you're going to get excited, things go amiss, stuff happens. Just sayin .....

Terry A · February 7, 2011, 08:30 PM

I like the XD grip safety, so not EVERY ONE 'hates" it!

Catfishman · February 7, 2011, 09:45 PM

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I had an XDm, I used it primarily in IDPA. I certainly didnt hate it, I did really like it. But I wished the grip safety was a little longer, more like a 1911. There were more than one occasions during matches that for various reasons, my grip was just incorrect enough that the XDm would not fire. Granted, my grip should have been correct, but when the SHTF, you're going to get excited, things go amiss, stuff happens. Just sayin .....

This ends the discussion for me. I see little to no benefit and one more thing to worry about.

flyinpolack · February 7, 2011, 10:17 PM

Grip safeties, goofy trigger safeties, built in locks.
All BS, put in place to appease the liberal politicians.
All extra crap that'll screw you when you need it most..
I won't own a gun with any of that BS.

Tactical Jackalope · February 8, 2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by flyinpolack

Grip safeties, goofy trigger safeties, built in locks.
All BS, put in place to appease the liberal politicians.
All extra crap that'll screw you when you need it most..
I won't own a gun with any of that BS.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ lol I like this guy

peacefulgary · February 8, 2011, 08:57 AM

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I have noticed that sometimes while doing malfunction drills I have to readjust my grip to get the gun out of battery. This is do to me jogging the gun slightly sideways to drop the mag and clear the gun. I also think it is pointless on a striker fired gun with a trigger safety and a long heavy pull.

On a 1911 it is a different story, and on a 1911 the grip safety does not lock the slide into battery...

Same here.
When doing a stoppage drill it can sometimes be difficult to get the grip-safety to disengage.

February 7, 2011, 01:42 AM	#26
Auto426 Senior Member Join Date: November 24, 2007 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 1,323	I'm just saying that in a struggle where two people are fighting over a gun and no one has real control over it, which also likely means no one has control over where it's pointing, having the gun not fire due to the grip safety could very well be a good thing. It could potentially save your life or the life of an innocent bystander. If you have enough control of the gun to point it at the BG, then you likely have enough of a grip to disengage the grip safety thereby allowing the gun to fire. __________________ *"Si vis pacem, para bellum"* - If you want peace, prepare for war.

February 7, 2011, 06:53 AM	#30
4runnerman Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,577	I personally hate a speed bump on 1911 grip safety because I don't like the way it presses into my hand. I find them completely useless, and much prefer the bumpless ones How does it press into yourhand?. It takes no pressure at all to push it in. __________________ NRA Certified RSO NwCP- Performance Isn't Optional

February 7, 2011, 01:37 PM	#38
4runnerman Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,577	It was actually the deciding factor in my wifes case.9MM xdm. Sweet pistol.Love it,Might have to claim it as my own __________________ NRA Certified RSO NwCP- Performance Isn't Optional

February 7, 2011, 04:06 PM	#39
DonutGuy Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2010 Posts: 327	I don't like it, I prefer the feel of Glock, but I could get used to it. I just haven't owned any guns with grip safeties, but again I could get used to it I think. __________________ McLovin? Yeah. Great name. It is, it just rolls off the tongue. 'Sounds like a sexy hamburger!

February 7, 2011, 08:04 PM	#43
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	Id rather not have a grip safety, but it being there isn't a problem. __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

February 7, 2011, 01:44 AM	#27
Tactical Jackalope Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2010 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 6,429	Absolutely agreed! I'm not saying every gun should have it but I don't mind or look at a gun differently if it does have one. Especially a 1911, never noticed it was even there. Depends on the person. Same reason +1

February 7, 2011, 01:51 AM	#28
vikingextreme93 Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 119	honestly of the people here in the real world that I know that have fired or own the XD I have never heard a complaint about the grip safety.

February 7, 2011, 07:38 AM	#31
Leejack Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: The Alamo! Posts: 2,056	So guys can get on the internet and have something to complain about.

February 7, 2011, 09:08 AM	#33
average Junior Member Join Date: February 7, 2011 Posts: 2	The concern for most people who dislike them lies with the fact that in a high stress situation not everyone takes a proper grip and stance and cooly alignes the sights and fires well aimed shots. It just doesnt always happen that way in the real world. When one must fire quickly in a less than ideal situation with a possibly injured hand, the gs could be seen by some as a liability.

February 7, 2011, 01:10 PM	#35
verdun59 Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2009 Posts: 138	It's really a non issue; however there is a certain segment of people who love to repeat that the grip safety is a problem, and if that doesn't convince you that XDs aren't as good as xyz or g, then they will tell you the bore axis is tooooo high, or as the last resort that it's made in kro-a-sha. Personally I don't mind the safety and my XD9 is as accurate and reliable as any gun I own.

February 7, 2011, 01:20 PM	#36
Rick_A Member Join Date: October 19, 2010 Posts: 52	personally i don't like it, i feel that it needs to be a little bit larger that way it COULD be disengaged with an improper grip. As to it being the same as a 1911 grip safety i would disagree. Most 1911 safeties seem alot bigger and easier to disengage. But that's just ME

February 7, 2011, 07:47 PM	#40
Iron Deacon Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Location: Bryan, TX Posts: 18	FWIT - used one for CCW practice...saw it was there, but never really noticed an effect on my grip or my shooting. Personally, thought the XD was as comfortable to shoot as my Glocks...and I like my Glocks a lot.

February 7, 2011, 07:54 PM	#41
The Master Chief Junior Member Join Date: February 2, 2011 Posts: 14	I don't hate them. I think it is a great safety feature borrowed from a 100 yr old design.

February 7, 2011, 08:02 PM	#42
MythBuster Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2007 Posts: 629	"personally i don't like it, i feel that it needs to be a little bit larger that way it COULD be disengaged with an improper grip. As to it being the same as a 1911 grip safety i would disagree. Most 1911 safeties seem alot bigger and easier to disengage." That has not been my experience. I find the grip safety on the XD MUCH more foolproof than the 1911 grip safety. I have never even once had an XD fail to fire from an improper grip. I can't say that about 1911's.

February 7, 2011, 08:07 PM	#44
khegglie Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2009 Posts: 387	single action Isnt the springfield a single action with the striker fully cocked unlike Glocks partial cocked ? Grip safety sounds like a good feature for the springer.

February 7, 2011, 08:30 PM	#46
Terry A Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2008 Location: Washington, Pa Posts: 764	I like the XD grip safety, so not EVERY ONE 'hates" it! __________________ 2 Thes 3:16 "Now may the Lord of peace Himself continually grant you peace in every circumstance. The Lord be with you all! "

February 7, 2011, 10:17 PM	#48
flyinpolack Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2010 Posts: 152	Grip safeties, goofy trigger safeties, built in locks. All BS, put in place to appease the liberal politicians. All extra crap that'll screw you when you need it most.. I won't own a gun with any of that BS. __________________ Buy American, or don't bitch when you wind up on the bread line. www.smokerbuilder.com