Ruger SP-101 327 Mag - Page 2

willr · April 1, 2015, 02:04 PM

It is not recommended, but 32 acp will function in the 327 SP101. As mentioned the 32 acp is a semi-rimmed round. I have fired it in mine with no apparent problems.
willr

Sevens · April 1, 2015, 02:46 PM

The 4.2" barrel length makes it viable for the Canadian market. It will have an edge ballistically over the 3" barrel, but great testing by the guys at Ballistics by the Inch has shown that the cartridge experiences irrational neutering under 3-inches in barrel length. The snub revolvers from Taurus and Charter don't let the .327 Federal do what it does best, but 3" and above is where it rolls.
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/327mag.html

Cosmodragoon · April 1, 2015, 03:06 PM

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Now... if someone would come out with a lever action carbine in this caliber...

Now that's the sort of holy grail, or major market blind spot, of this relatively new caliber. Besides the bad economic timing of its initial release, the .327 was pitched as a self-defense caliber and with a few exceptions, a lot of the early guns had short barrels.

The economic lesson seemed to be that if you are going to successfully introduce a new cartridge, you need to get a lot of people using it. You need (1) a more comprehensive and more aggressive marketing campaign and (2) a wider variety of guns for it introduced simultaneously. A common theme in some reviews or discussions is that the .327 had a lot of untapped potential for hunting, woodland use, kit guns, etc... Here, we were lucky that the small but passionate core of hopeful users, as evidenced in our club thread, helped keep it alive enough for Ruger to see the value in introducing new guns like this one. I remember reading comments like "they are finally finding the niche for this caliber" when they recently released the Single Seven.

So keep the demand fires burning. Buy one of these sweet new 4" SP101s. Buy some factory ammo. Take it to the range and shoot it with friends. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to share that demand with your favorite manufacturer of lever guns by phone or email. The reason we haven't seen this in a lever gun is that no manufacturer has seen justification for the design, time, and tooling expenses.

turkeestalker · April 1, 2015, 04:54 PM

Truth be told it is generally not the barrel length that poses the greatest problem when concealing so I'm betting you're right about that Model12Win, but I still love mine as it is.

smee78 · April 1, 2015, 06:45 PM

If I had not just bought an SP101 in 32H&R I would consider it but I will just stick with my SP and Single Six in 32 H&R for now. Now if someone wants to make a nice lever like the Marlin in 327 I might be in for one.

RodTheWrench · April 1, 2015, 07:08 PM

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Now if someone wants to make a nice lever like the Marlin in 327 I might be in for one.

You said Marlin, lever and nice in the same sentence.

I would absolutely plunk down on a lever gun chambered in 327! But please, oh please make mine a model 94 Trapper!

Oh, and I'll probably have to get one of the new 4" SP101s, my 3" is absofreakinglutely amazing with Wolff Springs, trigger job and sweet wood grips.

And yes, firing 32ACP is just fine in these.

Cosmodragoon · April 1, 2015, 11:48 PM

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Oh, and I'll probably have to get one of the new 4" SP101s, my 3" is absofreakinglutely amazing with Wolff Springs, trigger job and sweet wood grips.

What kind of grips did you get?

tallball · April 3, 2015, 06:33 PM

I bought one of the new 4" 327 from Gunbroker today. I will send pics and range report when I get my paws on it. I paid $569.

ThundarStick · April 3, 2015, 07:50 PM

I've got one on reserve as of last week! You could call me a fan boy, I have a snubby Taurus, a S&W 632, Rugers black hawk 8, single seven in 7 1\2 and 5 1\2, GP 100, SP 101 3 inch and love them all!

A pause for the COZ · April 4, 2015, 07:47 AM

Yes they are available on GB right now. I have a bid in on one now.
I am not going to be just jumping at them though.
I dont plan on over paying like I did for my Single 7.
Mid $500's is ok. But not going to pay $600 plus for one.

Nice though that I will be able to get one fast compared for the long drawn out ordeal the Single 7 was.

psyfly · April 4, 2015, 09:56 AM

Well, the new Ruger has me wound up a bit. I missed the 3" models when they were more available and I still want one.

If anyone has a 3" SP101 in .327, I have a list of firearms I'd trade for it. I have a new Single Seven that I've not even taken out of the box. It goes on the list, as well

.

Later today, after I edit the list, I'm planning to post down on the sale/trade threads.

Will

Model12Win · April 4, 2015, 02:48 PM

Can't wait to see some range reviews on the new SP.

I'm holding off for a while because I'm going to be buying a defense shotgun soon so my funds will be going to that, but this bogie is definitely on my radar.

tallball · April 9, 2015, 12:39 PM

Here is mine. I just picked it up a couple of hours ago. The range report will come in on Sunday. It feels good even in my large hands. So far the trigger is okay but not great. The fit and finish is good but not great. I like the sights and balance.

Slimjim9 · April 9, 2015, 06:59 PM

Nice. So they're not just vaporware!

you know the best looking thing about this gun? NOTHING on the barrel!

tallball · April 9, 2015, 10:35 PM

Sorry SlimJim.

I just showed the side where the picture came out better.

Slimjim9 · April 9, 2015, 11:02 PM

I don't mind that. I just hate the "please read instruction manual" billboard. I think I hate it worse than the S&W lock hole.

Real Gun · April 10, 2015, 10:41 AM

The Ruger forum is all over that. My gun is due to arrive at my FFL holder momentarily. I can't get any work done for lack of concentration.

Got it from among several listed on Gunbroker at appealing prices.

Model12Win · April 10, 2015, 12:53 PM

Awesome Real Gun!!

Tell us how you like it.

Does anyone know if the trigger on this is better than on the .22 LR SP101?

Real Gun · April 10, 2015, 05:51 PM

The finish is pretty rough, and I will return it to be repolished, but I plan to shoot it tomorrow. Also the barrel may have to come off to remove the hazardous burr around the breech. I also want the flutes polished to some reasonable standard. I have two other SP101s and three GP100s, so I know what expectation is reasonable with these stainless, brushed finish guns.

addendum: I took care of all these complaints myself except for the deepest scratches behind the cylinder release. Now the gun has a very nice 240 grit patina with the grain running in line with the barrel, something you almost have to do by hand, better than new. I was able to remove the barrel burr with a rifling file, also removing the knife edges from many other cuts and corners on the gun. That element of crudeness is one thing I don't prefer about Rugers, but I do favor the prices.

Cheapshooter · April 11, 2015, 02:02 PM

Just wish I could warm up to the SP101, but I don't like the feel at all. Which is quite unusual for me. I manage to adapt quite easily to various handguns, but not the SP. I shot a friend's 357 and did not like it at all. Not a recoil thing, that didn't bother me. It just didn't feel good when I first held it. Grips, maybe, Does Pachmayr make something like the Diamond Pro for a Ruger SP101?

FrankenMauser · April 12, 2015, 12:10 AM

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Grips, maybe, Does Pachmayr make something like the Diamond Pro for a Ruger SP101?

Yes, they do [will?].

New product for 2015. Diamond Pro Revolver Grips - Ruger SP101.

Cheapshooter · April 12, 2015, 12:23 AM

Saw that shortly after I posted. That might be a game changer. Just when I whittled my short list down to two, or three!
I saw they also are introducing them for the LCR. Because of being used for CCW my 38 LCR will continue to wear the Hogue Boot Grips, or nothing bigger than the original grips. But if Ruger comes up with one I am waiting for to check off a space on the short list, an LCR 3" 22 rimfire, I'm sure the Diamond Pro grips will go on it.
Now, what place in the top five short list should I put the SP101 327 on?

BOBA FETT · April 12, 2015, 10:48 AM

i saw one at a gun show yesterday..it was going for six hundred bucks..

Real Gun · April 12, 2015, 02:23 PM

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Just wish I could warm up to the SP101, but I don't like the feel at all. Which is quite unusual for me. I manage to adapt quite easily to various handguns, but not the SP. I shot a friend's 357 and did not like it at all. Not a recoil thing, that didn't bother me. It just didn't feel good when I first held it. Grips, maybe, Does Pachmayr make something like the Diamond Pro for a Ruger SP101?

I think the SP101's "feel" issue is the long trigger reach and little support for the middle finger, issues with the Redhawk also. I like the feel much better with Hogue combats.

I must say though that my first outing with the new 4" 327, using the stock grips, didn't beat me up like my 357 would. That may be part barrel length 3" vs 4", but the 327 round is just so much better suited to the SP101 platform.

Cosmodragoon · April 13, 2015, 12:15 AM

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I think the SP101's "feel" issue is the long trigger reach and little support for the middle finger, issues with the Redhawk also. I like the feel much better with Hogue combats.

I must say though that my first outing with the new 4" 327, using the stock grips, didn't beat me up like my 357 would. That may be part barrel length 3" vs 4", but the 327 round is just so much better suited to the SP101 platform.

I have to agree about the grips. I don't hate the stock grips but I vastly prefer shooting with the Hogues. Despite my recent frustration with their bad customer service while looking at hardwood options for this gun, my experience with their Rubber Monogrips on other SP101s has been positive. You can usually find them a few bucks cheaper around the web and they are worth every penny.

I'm not familiar with them but I just read that Pachmayr will be releasing Diamond Pro Series Grips for the SP101 sometime this year.

As per the SP101 being suited to this caliber, I have to agree. Not only does it make it into a sturdy but slender six-shooter, I feel like it hits a sweet spot between power, size, and weight.

April 1, 2015, 02:46 PM	#27
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,756	The 4.2" barrel length makes it viable for the Canadian market. It will have an edge ballistically over the 3" barrel, but great testing by the guys at Ballistics by the Inch has shown that the cartridge experiences irrational neutering under 3-inches in barrel length. The snub revolvers from Taurus and Charter don't let the .327 Federal do what it does best, but 3" and above is where it rolls. http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/327mag.html __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

April 1, 2015, 04:54 PM	#29
turkeestalker Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2015 Location: Cottleville, Missouri Posts: 1,115	Truth be told it is generally not the barrel length that poses the greatest problem when concealing so I'm betting you're right about that Model12Win, but I still love mine as it is. __________________ Vegetarian... primitive word for lousy hunter!

April 1, 2015, 06:45 PM	#30
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,918	If I had not just bought an SP101 in 32H&R I would consider it but I will just stick with my SP and Single Six in 32 H&R for now. Now if someone wants to make a nice lever like the Marlin in 327 I might be in for one. __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

April 4, 2015, 09:56 AM	#36
psyfly Senior Member Join Date: April 27, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 932	Well, the new Ruger has me wound up a bit. I missed the 3" models when they were more available and I still want one. If anyone has a 3" SP101 in .327, I have a list of firearms I'd trade for it. I have a new Single Seven that I've not even taken out of the box. It goes on the list, as well. Later today, after I edit the list, I'm planning to post down on the sale/trade threads. Will __________________ Show me the data

April 10, 2015, 05:51 PM	#44
Real Gun Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,743	The finish is pretty rough, and I will return it to be repolished, but I plan to shoot it tomorrow. Also the barrel may have to come off to remove the hazardous burr around the breech. I also want the flutes polished to some reasonable standard. I have two other SP101s and three GP100s, so I know what expectation is reasonable with these stainless, brushed finish guns. addendum: I took care of all these complaints myself except for the deepest scratches behind the cylinder release. Now the gun has a very nice 240 grit patina with the grain running in line with the barrel, something you almost have to do by hand, better than new. I was able to remove the barrel burr with a rifling file, also removing the knife edges from many other cuts and corners on the gun. That element of crudeness is one thing I don't prefer about Rugers, but I do favor the prices. Last edited by Real Gun; April 12, 2015 at 02:32 PM.

April 1, 2015, 02:04 PM	#26
willr Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2006 Posts: 356	It is not recommended, but 32 acp will function in the 327 SP101. As mentioned the 32 acp is a semi-rimmed round. I have fired it in mine with no apparent problems. willr

April 3, 2015, 06:33 PM	#33
tallball Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2014 Posts: 2,444	I bought one of the new 4" 327 from Gunbroker today. I will send pics and range report when I get my paws on it. I paid $569.

April 3, 2015, 07:50 PM	#34
ThundarStick Member Join Date: January 2, 2013 Posts: 18	I've got one on reserve as of last week! You could call me a fan boy, I have a snubby Taurus, a S&W 632, Rugers black hawk 8, single seven in 7 1\2 and 5 1\2, GP 100, SP 101 3 inch and love them all!

April 4, 2015, 07:47 AM	#35
A pause for the COZ Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2012 Location: Braham, Minnesota Posts: 1,314	Yes they are available on GB right now. I have a bid in on one now. I am not going to be just jumping at them though. I dont plan on over paying like I did for my Single 7. Mid $500's is ok. But not going to pay $600 plus for one. Nice though that I will be able to get one fast compared for the long drawn out ordeal the Single 7 was.

April 4, 2015, 02:48 PM	#37
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Can't wait to see some range reviews on the new SP. I'm holding off for a while because I'm going to be buying a defense shotgun soon so my funds will be going to that, but this bogie is definitely on my radar.

April 9, 2015, 12:39 PM	#38
tallball Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2014 Posts: 2,444	Here is mine. I just picked it up a couple of hours ago. The range report will come in on Sunday. It feels good even in my large hands. So far the trigger is okay but not great. The fit and finish is good but not great. I like the sights and balance.

April 9, 2015, 06:59 PM	#39
Slimjim9 Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2015 Posts: 783	Nice. So they're not just vaporware! you know the best looking thing about this gun? NOTHING on the barrel!

April 9, 2015, 10:35 PM	#40
tallball Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2014 Posts: 2,444	Sorry SlimJim. I just showed the side where the picture came out better.

April 9, 2015, 11:02 PM	#41
Slimjim9 Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2015 Posts: 783	I don't mind that. I just hate the "please read instruction manual" billboard. I think I hate it worse than the S&W lock hole.

April 10, 2015, 10:41 AM	#42
Real Gun Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,743	The Ruger forum is all over that. My gun is due to arrive at my FFL holder momentarily. I can't get any work done for lack of concentration. Got it from among several listed on Gunbroker at appealing prices.

April 10, 2015, 12:53 PM	#43
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Awesome Real Gun!! Tell us how you like it. Does anyone know if the trigger on this is better than on the .22 LR SP101?

April 11, 2015, 02:02 PM	#45
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	Just wish I could warm up to the SP101, but I don't like the feel at all. Which is quite unusual for me. I manage to adapt quite easily to various handguns, but not the SP. I shot a friend's 357 and did not like it at all. Not a recoil thing, that didn't bother me. It just didn't feel good when I first held it. Grips, maybe, Does Pachmayr make something like the Diamond Pro for a Ruger SP101? __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

April 12, 2015, 12:23 AM	#47
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	Saw that shortly after I posted. That might be a game changer. Just when I whittled my short list down to two, or three! I saw they also are introducing them for the LCR. Because of being used for CCW my 38 LCR will continue to wear the Hogue Boot Grips, or nothing bigger than the original grips. But if Ruger comes up with one I am waiting for to check off a space on the short list, an LCR 3" 22 rimfire, I'm sure the Diamond Pro grips will go on it. Now, what place in the top five short list should I put the SP101 327 on? __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

April 12, 2015, 10:48 AM	#48
BOBA FETT Senior Member Join Date: September 3, 2006 Posts: 277	i saw one at a gun show yesterday..it was going for six hundred bucks..