Carry Rifle?

J2. · May 23, 2012, 08:46 PM

I live in Ohio, I do have a CCW and would like to keep a rifle handy in my truck. Is it against the state law to carry a loaded rifle in a vehicle? Thanks in advance, J2

mikejonestkd · May 23, 2012, 08:49 PM

http://www.usacarry.com/forums/ohio-...zines-car.html

Hope this helps.

johnwilliamson062 · May 23, 2012, 11:44 PM

you can not have a loaded rifle OR loaded magazine in your vehicle in Ohio.
The exception being a pistol IFF you have a CCW.
BFA, OFCC, and others are working to fix this now. Bill looks to be on target to pass this year, but not law yet.

Stressfire · May 24, 2012, 09:04 AM

what john said

Loaded rifles and shotguns are a no-no, not to say that every redneck with a 12 in the gun rack keeps it unloaded

J2. · May 24, 2012, 03:41 PM

Thank you for the help.
So if I carry my 30-30 in the cab and keep ammo in the back I'm OK?
What about ammo where the gun is?
I just want to be safe!

MLeake · May 24, 2012, 03:56 PM

Edit: Since you have a carry permit, keep a loaded handgun with you.

Any situation that would allow you to retrieve the ammo and load the rifle is a fairly slow-developing situation, and one that you should in theory be able to escape - given that you are in a vehicle.

OTOH, if you break down somewhere, you could load the rifle while you wait for help, I suppose.

But if you were run off the road and your vehicle disabled, I can't see you having time or wherewithal to get ammo and load up. If your handgun can't buy you time to retrieve and load the rifle, you weren't going to get the rifle into action anyway.

J2. · May 24, 2012, 07:26 PM

Clarification: I would like to carry both!

JN01 · May 24, 2012, 08:12 PM

There is an exception. You may have a loaded en-bloc (Garand) or stripper clip (SKS) in the vehicle with the rifle, as long as they are not inserted into the gun. No other type of long gun magazine may be loaded, however. Oh, and if you have a Glock, no happy sticks. Any centerfire firearm using a magazine that holds over 30 rounds is considered a machine gun by the State of Ohio.

Stressfire · May 25, 2012, 03:33 PM

There is some leeway with regard to trucks, usually behind the seat is acceptable due to the lack of a trunk. But as JN01 said, box magazines for rifles or other long guns cannot be loaded. Pretty much same rules as a non-ccw holder would have for a pistol - ie, gun unloaded and encased, ammo in a separate compartment, etc & so forth.

Quote:

Any centerfire firearm using a magazine that holds over 30 rounds is considered a machine gun by the State of Ohio.

Was most definitely not aware of that!

Any idea where a citation for that might be found?

J2. · May 28, 2012, 06:45 AM

Thank you for the help guys.
J2

Willie Lowman · May 28, 2012, 08:46 AM

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Was most definitely not aware of that! Any idea where a citation for that might be found?

You might try the Ohio Revised Code. 2923.11 (E)

If you live in a state, you should be aware of it's laws.

JN01 · May 29, 2012, 02:00 PM

2923.11 Weapons control definitions.
As used in sections 2923.11 to 2923.24 of the Revised Code:

(A) “Deadly weapon” means any instrument, device, or thing capable of inflicting death, and designed or specially adapted for use as a weapon, or possessed, carried, or used as a weapon.

(B)(1) “Firearm” means any deadly weapon capable of expelling or propelling one or more projectiles by the action of an explosive or combustible propellant. “Firearm” includes an unloaded firearm, and any firearm that is inoperable but that can readily be rendered operable.

(2) When determining whether a firearm is capable of expelling or propelling one or more projectiles by the action of an explosive or combustible propellant, the trier of fact may rely upon circumstantial evidence, including, but not limited to, the representations and actions of the individual exercising control over the firearm.

(C) “Handgun” means any of the following:

(1) Any firearm that has a short stock and is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand;

(2) Any combination of parts from which a firearm of a type described in division (C)(1) of this section can be assembled.

(D) “Semi-automatic firearm” means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a single cartridge and automatically chamber a succeeding cartridge ready to fire, with a single function of the trigger.

(E) “Automatic firearm” means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger. “Automatic firearm” also means any semi-automatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges.

Stressfire · May 29, 2012, 02:15 PM

Well go figure.

I suspect I may have been aware of that way back somewhere in my subconscious. It's been awhile since I took a firearms class.

jason_iowa · May 30, 2012, 03:07 AM

We can in Iowa. Anything that's legal to own can be kept loaded in your vehicle.

J2. · May 31, 2012, 07:32 PM

Iowa you say. HHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

johnwilliamson062 · June 9, 2012, 03:30 AM

$50/ 5 year, or as you sheriff decides, you can have a destructive ordnance permit and 30+ mags. It should be noted, guns designed to be belt fed also fall under this restriction.

I hope BFA and OFCC tackle this next, although I should have a permit in a few weeks, so it won't affect me much for a few years.

bk688 · June 19, 2012, 10:31 AM

Illinois does not allow concealed carry. I get around this the best I can by keeping my side arm in my truck (I make sure my truck doesnt appear to be worth breaking into). I just follow the laws describing how to legally transport a weapon via vehicle. It doesn't exactly make for lightning speed if I'd ever need it, but its better than nothing. In this case the laws are the same for pistols and long guns. Heck, all I have to do to transport my AR is unload it and dismantle it to a "non-firing state" (shotgun style). It takes a full 5 seconds to put it back together and load it.

I'd look into that if you don't have any other choices.

May 23, 2012, 08:46 PM	#1
J2. Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2008 Location: The Real America Posts: 149	Carry Rifle? I live in Ohio, I do have a CCW and would like to keep a rifle handy in my truck. Is it against the state law to carry a loaded rifle in a vehicle? Thanks in advance, J2 __________________ "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Last edited by J2.; May 25, 2012 at 05:54 AM.

May 23, 2012, 08:49 PM	#2
mikejonestkd Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2006 Location: Brockport, NY Posts: 3,716	http://www.usacarry.com/forums/ohio-...zines-car.html Hope this helps. __________________ You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.

May 24, 2012, 09:04 AM	#4
Stressfire Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,497	what john said Loaded rifles and shotguns are a no-no, not to say that every redneck with a 12 in the gun rack keeps it unloaded __________________ "The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank" - Montgomery Scott

May 24, 2012, 03:41 PM	#5
J2. Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2008 Location: The Real America Posts: 149	Thank you for the help. So if I carry my 30-30 in the cab and keep ammo in the back I'm OK? What about ammo where the gun is? I just want to be safe! __________________ "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."

May 24, 2012, 07:26 PM	#7
J2. Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2008 Location: The Real America Posts: 149	Clarification: I would like to carry both! __________________ "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."

May 23, 2012, 11:44 PM	#3
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	you can not have a loaded rifle OR loaded magazine in your vehicle in Ohio. The exception being a pistol IFF you have a CCW. BFA, OFCC, and others are working to fix this now. Bill looks to be on target to pass this year, but not law yet.

May 24, 2012, 03:56 PM	#6
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	Edit: Since you have a carry permit, keep a loaded handgun with you. Any situation that would allow you to retrieve the ammo and load the rifle is a fairly slow-developing situation, and one that you should in theory be able to escape - given that you are in a vehicle. OTOH, if you break down somewhere, you could load the rifle while you wait for help, I suppose. But if you were run off the road and your vehicle disabled, I can't see you having time or wherewithal to get ammo and load up. If your handgun can't buy you time to retrieve and load the rifle, you weren't going to get the rifle into action anyway.

May 24, 2012, 08:12 PM	#8
JN01 Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2005 Location: E Tennessee Posts: 828	There is an exception. You may have a loaded en-bloc (Garand) or stripper clip (SKS) in the vehicle with the rifle, as long as they are not inserted into the gun. No other type of long gun magazine may be loaded, however. Oh, and if you have a Glock, no happy sticks. Any centerfire firearm using a magazine that holds over 30 rounds is considered a machine gun by the State of Ohio.

May 28, 2012, 06:45 AM	#10
J2. Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2008 Location: The Real America Posts: 149	Thank you for the help guys. J2 __________________ "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."

May 29, 2012, 02:00 PM	#12
JN01 Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2005 Location: E Tennessee Posts: 828	2923.11 Weapons control definitions. As used in sections 2923.11 to 2923.24 of the Revised Code: (A) “Deadly weapon” means any instrument, device, or thing capable of inflicting death, and designed or specially adapted for use as a weapon, or possessed, carried, or used as a weapon. (B)(1) “Firearm” means any deadly weapon capable of expelling or propelling one or more projectiles by the action of an explosive or combustible propellant. “Firearm” includes an unloaded firearm, and any firearm that is inoperable but that can readily be rendered operable. (2) When determining whether a firearm is capable of expelling or propelling one or more projectiles by the action of an explosive or combustible propellant, the trier of fact may rely upon circumstantial evidence, including, but not limited to, the representations and actions of the individual exercising control over the firearm. (C) “Handgun” means any of the following: (1) Any firearm that has a short stock and is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand; (2) Any combination of parts from which a firearm of a type described in division (C)(1) of this section can be assembled. (D) “Semi-automatic firearm” means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a single cartridge and automatically chamber a succeeding cartridge ready to fire, with a single function of the trigger. (E) “Automatic firearm” means any firearm designed or specially adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger. “Automatic firearm” also means any semi-automatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges.

May 29, 2012, 02:15 PM	#13
Stressfire Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,497	Well go figure. I suspect I may have been aware of that way back somewhere in my subconscious. It's been awhile since I took a firearms class. __________________ "The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank" - Montgomery Scott

May 30, 2012, 03:07 AM	#14
jason_iowa Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2011 Posts: 686	We can in Iowa. Anything that's legal to own can be kept loaded in your vehicle.

May 31, 2012, 07:32 PM	#15
J2. Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2008 Location: The Real America Posts: 149	Iowa you say. HHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. __________________ "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."

June 9, 2012, 03:30 AM	#16
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	$50/ 5 year, or as you sheriff decides, you can have a destructive ordnance permit and 30+ mags. It should be noted, guns designed to be belt fed also fall under this restriction. I hope BFA and OFCC tackle this next, although I should have a permit in a few weeks, so it won't affect me much for a few years.

June 19, 2012, 10:31 AM	#17
bk688 Member Join Date: May 24, 2009 Posts: 53	Look for the lue poles. Illinois does not allow concealed carry. I get around this the best I can by keeping my side arm in my truck (I make sure my truck doesnt appear to be worth breaking into). I just follow the laws describing how to legally transport a weapon via vehicle. It doesn't exactly make for lightning speed if I'd ever need it, but its better than nothing. In this case the laws are the same for pistols and long guns. Heck, all I have to do to transport my AR is unload it and dismantle it to a "non-firing state" (shotgun style). It takes a full 5 seconds to put it back together and load it. I'd look into that if you don't have any other choices.