1858 Remmington New Army .44 (Pietta)

Leatherneck76 · March 15, 2009, 02:57 PM

I just got this pistol on Friday. It is my first C&B. I cleaned it up yesterday and took it to the range today. I'm now hooked!!

Over all I'm well pleased with the gun. It's smooth right out of the box and is more accurate than I am. I put 3 cylinders through it without having to stop and clean.

The only problem I had was the plunger pin would fall out every time I changed cylinders. Has anyone else had this problem and what would be a good solution?

Thanks,

Raider2000 · March 15, 2009, 05:21 PM

First off, Welcome to the forum & congratulations on your new piece.

As far as the plunger pin goes, take the rammer assembly out & get a punch that is just slightly larget than the pin in the plunger, take the punch with a hammer & peen the hole a bit to prevent the pin from moving out, do this on both sides & you should never have this issue ever again.

tiberius10721 · March 15, 2009, 07:53 PM

congratulations on your purchase I love shooting my remmy 44 also!I about eight cylinders through mine without any problems the other day maybe it was the american pioneer powder with crisco.

Leatherneck76 · March 15, 2009, 08:07 PM

Thanks Raider2000, I thought about using a punch but was wondering about a future disassembly. however, I don't see a need to take the plunger assembly apart. It can be cleaned and lubricated without disassembly. I'll do that this week.

Thanks

Leatherneck76 · March 15, 2009, 08:13 PM

tiberus10721,
I'm hoping to catch up with you this week. I'm taking some vacation day and going to the range each day. I have several pistols...380, 1911 Colt 35, 9 mm, and 2 .22's but by far this BP .44 is the most enjoyable to shoot.

Raider2000 · March 15, 2009, 09:04 PM

He he, I still have both of ya beat together on my newest Pietta NMA.

on a single outing I've put 10 cylinders through it with no more than a simple wipe to the cylinder & the pin but I've got well over 1300 shots total through it since Nov. 2007.

Glad to be of help bud.

tiberius10721 · March 15, 2009, 10:43 PM

yesterday i when i shot eight cylinders through my remmy I was using 30 grains of american pioneer powder with cornmeal as a filler and .457 balls and crisco to prevent a chain fire.Im not sure but it seems like the american pioneer powder which is a bp substitute mixed well with the crisco to lubricate my gun.I haven't used wonder wads or bore butter yet.the weather right now is pretty cool maybe in the summer time the crisco im using will melt.

tiberius10721 · March 15, 2009, 10:45 PM

can anyone theorize why uberti cylinders are so much more than piettas?

Raider2000 · March 16, 2009, 04:23 AM

Because of the Uberti name..

madcratebuilder · March 16, 2009, 09:19 AM

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Because of the Uberti name..

That and the retailer you buy from. Check DGW, they seem to offer the best retail price around.

noelf2 · March 16, 2009, 02:53 PM

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can anyone theorize why uberti cylinders are so much more than piettas?

Because people will pay it. I wonder why Pietta's aren't more expensive, but I'm glad they aren't?

Hawg · March 17, 2009, 07:22 AM

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can anyone theorize why uberti cylinders are so much more than piettas?

Pietta's of the past were hit or miss on quality but around 10 years ago Pietta got new CNC machinery and that brought their quality up to par with Uberti. A lot of people still think they're not as good. Another thing is Pietta stamps their name in big deep letters on the side of the barrel. Uberti is less obvious. Some people are willing to pay a premium for that. Just be glad Pietta's are as inexpensive as they are and hope the rest of the world doesn't find out how good they are.

Ricklin · March 18, 2009, 10:20 AM

In my limited experience they can be variable. My SS 7 1/2 target was a piece of junk, I sent it in to Traditions, they did replace it, it was a PITA.

I am however very pleased with the replacement. I have not shot it lately, since I started reloading I don't have as much reason to, my modern pistols are fairly cheap to shoot with reloads, and I don't cast bullets.

Hmm, maybe I will sell it.

pappy177 · March 26, 2009, 09:16 PM

I have 5 BP revolvers and have shot for some thirty years.
Bought a new 1858 Remington New Army .44 (Pietta) stainless 8inch.
Question , shooting it last saturday first shot dam near every cap falls off.
tried 10's and 11's , seems a very loose fit.
Was thinking of dry firing each cylinder to (mushroom) the nipples a little.
Or should I just replace them. (stainless)
thanks guys.

Ricklin · March 26, 2009, 09:39 PM

Have you tried Remington #10s? I have had very good results with them on my Pietta 44. I would try that b4 you mushroom your nipples. Caps do differ somewhat.

pappy177 · March 26, 2009, 09:41 PM

All I have is Remington #10s and 11's.
Maby CCI may be better.

Ricklin · March 27, 2009, 10:18 PM

It takes a fair amount of force to seat the caps well on mine, I've never dry fired it, and I've maybe fired it a hundred times. Caps are the same fit now as they were new. I did open up the area around the nippples so I can use a snaill capper, some guys use a wood dowel to seat the cap. The 1st (bad) Pietta .44 stainless target I got the nipples were just like the replacement pistol I received. I wonder when they changed nipples, mine is only 2 years old at the most.

Hawg · March 28, 2009, 04:23 AM

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All I have is Remington #10s and 11's.
Maby CCI may be better.

I prefer CCI over Remington but CCI's will be a loose fit if the Remingtons fall off. You can pinch them to fit or best bet is get Treso nipples

March 18, 2009, 10:20 AM	#13
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 2,011	Pietta In my limited experience they can be variable. My SS 7 1/2 target was a piece of junk, I sent it in to Traditions, they did replace it, it was a PITA. I am however very pleased with the replacement. I have not shot it lately, since I started reloading I don't have as much reason to, my modern pistols are fairly cheap to shoot with reloads, and I don't cast bullets. Hmm, maybe I will sell it. __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

March 26, 2009, 09:16 PM	#14
pappy177 Member Join Date: March 14, 2009 Location: port richey florida Posts: 46	1858 Remington New Army .44 (Pietta) I have 5 BP revolvers and have shot for some thirty years. Bought a new 1858 Remington New Army .44 (Pietta) stainless 8inch. Question , shooting it last saturday first shot dam near every cap falls off. tried 10's and 11's , seems a very loose fit. Was thinking of dry firing each cylinder to (mushroom) the nipples a little. Or should I just replace them. (stainless) thanks guys.

March 26, 2009, 09:39 PM	#15
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 2,011	Different Brand? Have you tried Remington #10s? I have had very good results with them on my Pietta 44. I would try that b4 you mushroom your nipples. Caps do differ somewhat. __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

March 26, 2009, 09:41 PM	#16
pappy177 Member Join Date: March 14, 2009 Location: port richey florida Posts: 46	Remington #10s All I have is Remington #10s and 11's. Maby CCI may be better.

March 27, 2009, 10:18 PM	#17
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 2,011	Are ya pushin hard enough? It takes a fair amount of force to seat the caps well on mine, I've never dry fired it, and I've maybe fired it a hundred times. Caps are the same fit now as they were new. I did open up the area around the nippples so I can use a snaill capper, some guys use a wood dowel to seat the cap. The 1st (bad) Pietta .44 stainless target I got the nipples were just like the replacement pistol I received. I wonder when they changed nipples, mine is only 2 years old at the most. __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

March 15, 2009, 02:57 PM	#1
Leatherneck76 Junior Member Join Date: March 15, 2009 Location: Mississippi Posts: 5	1858 Remmington New Army .44 (Pietta) I just got this pistol on Friday. It is my first C&B. I cleaned it up yesterday and took it to the range today. I'm now hooked!! Over all I'm well pleased with the gun. It's smooth right out of the box and is more accurate than I am. I put 3 cylinders through it without having to stop and clean. The only problem I had was the plunger pin would fall out every time I changed cylinders. Has anyone else had this problem and what would be a good solution? Thanks,

March 15, 2009, 05:21 PM	#2
Raider2000 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 719	First off, Welcome to the forum & congratulations on your new piece. As far as the plunger pin goes, take the rammer assembly out & get a punch that is just slightly larget than the pin in the plunger, take the punch with a hammer & peen the hole a bit to prevent the pin from moving out, do this on both sides & you should never have this issue ever again.

March 15, 2009, 07:53 PM	#3
tiberius10721 Junior member Join Date: December 22, 2008 Posts: 228	congratulations on your purchase I love shooting my remmy 44 also!I about eight cylinders through mine without any problems the other day maybe it was the american pioneer powder with crisco.

March 15, 2009, 08:07 PM	#4
Leatherneck76 Junior Member Join Date: March 15, 2009 Location: Mississippi Posts: 5	Thanks Raider2000, I thought about using a punch but was wondering about a future disassembly. however, I don't see a need to take the plunger assembly apart. It can be cleaned and lubricated without disassembly. I'll do that this week. Thanks

March 15, 2009, 08:13 PM	#5
Leatherneck76 Junior Member Join Date: March 15, 2009 Location: Mississippi Posts: 5	tiberus10721, I'm hoping to catch up with you this week. I'm taking some vacation day and going to the range each day. I have several pistols...380, 1911 Colt 35, 9 mm, and 2 .22's but by far this BP .44 is the most enjoyable to shoot.

March 15, 2009, 09:04 PM	#6
Raider2000 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 719	He he, I still have both of ya beat together on my newest Pietta NMA. on a single outing I've put 10 cylinders through it with no more than a simple wipe to the cylinder & the pin but I've got well over 1300 shots total through it since Nov. 2007. Glad to be of help bud.

March 15, 2009, 10:43 PM	#7
tiberius10721 Junior member Join Date: December 22, 2008 Posts: 228	yesterday i when i shot eight cylinders through my remmy I was using 30 grains of american pioneer powder with cornmeal as a filler and .457 balls and crisco to prevent a chain fire.Im not sure but it seems like the american pioneer powder which is a bp substitute mixed well with the crisco to lubricate my gun.I haven't used wonder wads or bore butter yet.the weather right now is pretty cool maybe in the summer time the crisco im using will melt.

March 15, 2009, 10:45 PM	#8
tiberius10721 Junior member Join Date: December 22, 2008 Posts: 228	can anyone theorize why uberti cylinders are so much more than piettas?

March 16, 2009, 04:23 AM	#9
Raider2000 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 719	Because of the Uberti name..

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