Walther P.38 480

John/az2 · February 11, 2000, 08:10 PM

Harley,

A friend of mine has a Walther P.38 480 serial number 28xx. He says the gun lists at $3500 @ 95%

The gun is at about 90%.

There are many proofing marks(?)...

Anyway, I'd like to know if what he says is true or not.

What other information do you need to make a general determination?

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John/az

"The middle of the road between the extremes of good and evil, is evil. When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!

Harley Nolden · February 11, 2000, 10:37 PM

John/AZ2

The only Walther P38 I find is the steel frame model and it list in EXC=$1,400.00. there is a model MP found in variations that resemble a large Model pp or the P38. This lists @ $35000.00.

Is the caliber .480 or .380. I find no listing for .480 caliber.

If you had a photo it would be easier to tell what gun we are talking about. If you can provide the markings on the gun we'll see if I or someone on the forum can find out what it is.
HJN

John/az2 · February 11, 2000, 11:58 PM

Harley,

Here are some scans of the gun. They will take a while to load.

It's a 9x19 Luger caliber.
http://home.wwdb.org/libertybelle/pics/Image1.jpg

http://home.wwdb.org/libertybelle/pics/Image2.jpg

If needed, I should be able to magnify any part...

Thanks.

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John/az

"The middle of the road between the extremes of good and evil, is evil. When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!

[This message has been edited by John/az2 (edited February 11, 2000).]

Steven Mace · February 12, 2000, 02:09 AM

John/az2, the gun you're describing is a P.38 Zero-Series with the 480 code. This gun was made in 1940 with a serial number range of 1-7,665 with a total of 7,200 being produced. This was the first military contract for the P.38. In 100% condition it could be worth about $4,500 and about $1,150 in 90% condition. Finding a 480 code P.38 in a condition above 90% is considered rare. Hope this helps!

Steve Mace

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Harley Nolden · February 12, 2000, 05:53 AM

John/Steve:
BINGO! You got it Steve.

HJN

John/az2 · February 12, 2000, 07:15 AM

Is the condition % a subjective thing or are there standards to go by?

He (my friend) was telling me that he would ask $2500 for the gun.

Is it hard to tell from the photos if this would be a correct assessment?

Thanks, to you both!

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John/az

"The middle of the road between the extremes of good and evil, is evil. When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!

John/az2 · February 14, 2000, 10:28 AM

Harley,

Btt, I don't know if you saw my follow-up questions.

Thanks!

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John/az

"The middle of the road between the extremes of good and evil, is evil. When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!

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February 11, 2000, 08:10 PM	#1
John/az2 Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 1999 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,729	Harley, A friend of mine has a Walther P.38 480 serial number 28xx. He says the gun lists at $3500 @ 95% The gun is at about 90%. There are many proofing marks(?)... Anyway, I'd like to know if what he says is true or not. What other information do you need to make a general determination? ------------------ John/az "The middle of the road between the extremes of good and evil, is evil. When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!

February 11, 2000, 10:37 PM	#2
Harley Nolden Staff In Memoriam Join Date: January 8, 1999 Location: Brunswick,GA USA Posts: 1,884	John/AZ2 The only Walther P38 I find is the steel frame model and it list in EXC=$1,400.00. there is a model MP found in variations that resemble a large Model pp or the P38. This lists @ $35000.00. Is the caliber .480 or .380. I find no listing for .480 caliber. If you had a photo it would be easier to tell what gun we are talking about. If you can provide the markings on the gun we'll see if I or someone on the forum can find out what it is. HJN

February 11, 2000, 11:58 PM	#3
John/az2 Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 1999 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,729	Harley, Here are some scans of the gun. They will take a while to load. It's a 9x19 Luger caliber. http://home.wwdb.org/libertybelle/pics/Image1.jpg http://home.wwdb.org/libertybelle/pics/Image2.jpg If needed, I should be able to magnify any part... Thanks. ------------------ John/az "The middle of the road between the extremes of good and evil, is evil. When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA! [This message has been edited by John/az2 (edited February 11, 2000).]

February 12, 2000, 02:09 AM	#4
Steven Mace Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 1999 Location: Clifton, Colorado USA Posts: 724	John/az2, the gun you're describing is a P.38 Zero-Series with the 480 code. This gun was made in 1940 with a serial number range of 1-7,665 with a total of 7,200 being produced. This was the first military contract for the P.38. In 100% condition it could be worth about $4,500 and about $1,150 in 90% condition. Finding a 480 code P.38 in a condition above 90% is considered rare. Hope this helps! Steve Mace ------------------ After today, its all historical

February 12, 2000, 05:53 AM	#5
Harley Nolden Staff In Memoriam Join Date: January 8, 1999 Location: Brunswick,GA USA Posts: 1,884	John/Steve: BINGO! You got it Steve. HJN

February 12, 2000, 07:15 AM	#6
John/az2 Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 1999 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,729	Is the condition % a subjective thing or are there standards to go by? He (my friend) was telling me that he would ask $2500 for the gun. Is it hard to tell from the photos if this would be a correct assessment? Thanks, to you both! ------------------ John/az "The middle of the road between the extremes of good and evil, is evil. When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!

February 14, 2000, 10:28 AM	#7
John/az2 Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 1999 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,729	Harley, Btt, I don't know if you saw my follow-up questions. Thanks! ------------------ John/az "The middle of the road between the extremes of good and evil, is evil. When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!