Best Value Saiga 12

boostedtt91 · February 23, 2012, 05:03 PM

I have been starting to think of trying to grab a Semi Auto Saiga shotgun while they are still available. Nothing sounds more fun than a high capacity magazine 12G shotgun haha. I know there are some that are $2k and some under $1k. Im looking for on the cheaper end of the spectrum cause i can't really afford a $1500 shotgun right now. What are the best models for a guy on a budget? Im new to saiga's

M4BGRINGO · February 23, 2012, 11:54 PM

I paid $450 for my Saiga-12, brand-new. Founs a place selling 5 round magazines for these at $5 a piece, they work perfect!

I use the gun for knock-down steel. Wouldn't be good for Trap, besides, most Trap fields require longer-barreled gun, probably trying to keep out the riff-raff.

Would probably work for Skeet though.

rottieman33 · February 24, 2012, 11:07 AM

Go here if you want to learn about the Saiga 12's
You can shoot trap but would need to put a choke on it, I do shoot skeet with mine.

http://forum.saiga-12.com

Couple websites for you.
http://www.saiga-12.com/products.asp?filter=saiga 12
http://store.carolinashooterssupply....let/StoreFront

My Saiga 12

boostedtt91 · February 24, 2012, 09:15 PM

thanks

boostedtt91 · February 27, 2012, 04:42 PM

Is it hard to convert these back to the original configuration they left the factory in and is it expensive to do? Also, where can i buy a new one at besides gunbroker or gunsamerica? The only place i really saw that had them for sale was that AtlanticFirearms online. Anyone know of any good places to get one for a good deal?

ReaperTime · February 27, 2012, 04:51 PM

last time i looked a shop 40-50 miles from me has 3 left at $699. other places have jacked them up to $1200. get them while u can boys...... sounds like an investment buy at 700 and under. my buddy got 3 of them for 550 almost a year ago.

boostedtt91 · February 27, 2012, 05:04 PM

They are selling the unconverted ones for around $600, well at least online they are. I have only found one or two places that actually sell them online besides auction sites which want a arm and leg for one

boostedtt91 · February 27, 2012, 09:17 PM

so how much does it cost to convert one of these and is it hard to do? Basically i just want the pistol grip for now. I know some people change the gas system and everything else, but is that really necessary? I basically want to convert it back to the way it was built in the factory.

JohnnyAmmo · February 28, 2012, 09:09 PM

I have converted six Saiga's, its not that bad cost depends on what you want to add. And you will want the reliablity kit installed inorder to fire cheap ammo. Here are three of them a 12, 20 and a 410. Please give me feed back about the barrel shrouds. Thanks.

boostedtt91 · February 28, 2012, 09:24 PM

i am going to get the 12 gauge and i want to first just add the pistol grip to it. I would like to be able to shoot target loads or the bulk pack shells out of it, what needs to be done to be able to shoot them? Is that when the entire gas system and bolt need to be changed?

JohnnyAmmo · February 29, 2012, 07:28 AM

to add the reliability kit just unscrew the gas adjustment plug and remove the gas puck ( use care with the threads they are easy to strip) than install new puck and screw in gas adjuster and you can shoot all the walmart cheap ammo you want and the hot loads buy turning the gas knob a coulple of clicks. here's a link. http://store.carolinashooterssupply....w-brass/Detail

JohnnyAmmo · February 29, 2012, 07:29 AM

Ps the bolt does not need to be changed and the recoil spring is optional

rottieman33 · February 29, 2012, 12:14 PM

Just get the gun and shoot it first before you add the reliability kit you may not need it. I can shoot anything threw mine and I have never touched the gas system on it. Still running the stock gas puck and gas adjuster on mine.

boostedtt91 · February 29, 2012, 03:32 PM

yeah thats what im gonna do, im gonna get it and try a bunch of different types of ammo and see how things go and then go from there on what needs done. Now i just need to find where i can get the best deal on one

GreySmoke · February 29, 2012, 03:48 PM

$549 unconverted - $799 Converted as of 2/29/12

http://classicarms.us/shotguns%20and%20handguns.htm

boostedtt91 · March 1, 2012, 04:36 PM

I just ordered one yesterday and it was shipped today so ill have it shortly. Im going to run to Walmart to get a couple box's of shotgun shells tonight since its the only place open i can get them. Since im new to shotguns, what are a couple different types of shells i should get to test out the gun

M4BGRINGO · March 1, 2012, 11:00 PM

Run 10 rounds or so of buckshot through it first. Check on the setting of the gas control knob, there are two positions, one lets more gas in than the other. After the buckshot change the knob to the other position and run birdshot through it. Both should cycle correctly.

February 23, 2012, 05:03 PM	#1
boostedtt91 Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2011 Location: Danville, Pa Posts: 520	Saiga 12 I have been starting to think of trying to grab a Semi Auto Saiga shotgun while they are still available. Nothing sounds more fun than a high capacity magazine 12G shotgun haha. I know there are some that are $2k and some under $1k. Im looking for on the cheaper end of the spectrum cause i can't really afford a $1500 shotgun right now. What are the best models for a guy on a budget? Im new to saiga's Last edited by boostedtt91; February 27, 2012 at 04:41 PM.

February 29, 2012, 03:48 PM	#15
GreySmoke Senior Member Join Date: September 17, 2009 Location: USA Posts: 185	$549 unconverted - $799 Converted as of 2/29/12 http://classicarms.us/shotguns%20and%20handguns.htm __________________ GreySmoke Tactical Firearms and FFL Transfers, Greysmoketacticalfirearms.com

February 23, 2012, 11:54 PM	#2
M4BGRINGO Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2011 Posts: 256	I paid $450 for my Saiga-12, brand-new. Founs a place selling 5 round magazines for these at $5 a piece, they work perfect! I use the gun for knock-down steel. Wouldn't be good for Trap, besides, most Trap fields require longer-barreled gun, probably trying to keep out the riff-raff. Would probably work for Skeet though.

February 24, 2012, 09:15 PM	#4
boostedtt91 Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2011 Location: Danville, Pa Posts: 520	thanks

February 27, 2012, 04:42 PM	#5
boostedtt91 Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2011 Location: Danville, Pa Posts: 520	Is it hard to convert these back to the original configuration they left the factory in and is it expensive to do? Also, where can i buy a new one at besides gunbroker or gunsamerica? The only place i really saw that had them for sale was that AtlanticFirearms online. Anyone know of any good places to get one for a good deal?

February 27, 2012, 04:51 PM	#6
ReaperTime Junior Member Join Date: January 2, 2012 Location: California Posts: 5	last time i looked a shop 40-50 miles from me has 3 left at $699. other places have jacked them up to $1200. get them while u can boys...... sounds like an investment buy at 700 and under. my buddy got 3 of them for 550 almost a year ago.

February 27, 2012, 05:04 PM	#7
boostedtt91 Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2011 Location: Danville, Pa Posts: 520	They are selling the unconverted ones for around $600, well at least online they are. I have only found one or two places that actually sell them online besides auction sites which want a arm and leg for one

February 27, 2012, 09:17 PM	#8
boostedtt91 Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2011 Location: Danville, Pa Posts: 520	so how much does it cost to convert one of these and is it hard to do? Basically i just want the pistol grip for now. I know some people change the gas system and everything else, but is that really necessary? I basically want to convert it back to the way it was built in the factory.

February 28, 2012, 09:09 PM	#9
JohnnyAmmo Junior Member Join Date: February 28, 2012 Posts: 3	I have converted six Saiga's, its not that bad cost depends on what you want to add. And you will want the reliablity kit installed inorder to fire cheap ammo. Here are three of them a 12, 20 and a 410. Please give me feed back about the barrel shrouds. Thanks.

February 28, 2012, 09:24 PM	#10
boostedtt91 Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2011 Location: Danville, Pa Posts: 520	i am going to get the 12 gauge and i want to first just add the pistol grip to it. I would like to be able to shoot target loads or the bulk pack shells out of it, what needs to be done to be able to shoot them? Is that when the entire gas system and bolt need to be changed?

February 29, 2012, 07:28 AM	#11
JohnnyAmmo Junior Member Join Date: February 28, 2012 Posts: 3	to add the reliability kit just unscrew the gas adjustment plug and remove the gas puck ( use care with the threads they are easy to strip) than install new puck and screw in gas adjuster and you can shoot all the walmart cheap ammo you want and the hot loads buy turning the gas knob a coulple of clicks. here's a link. http://store.carolinashooterssupply....w-brass/Detail

February 29, 2012, 07:29 AM	#12
JohnnyAmmo Junior Member Join Date: February 28, 2012 Posts: 3	Ps the bolt does not need to be changed and the recoil spring is optional

February 29, 2012, 12:14 PM	#13
rottieman33 Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2009 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 223	Just get the gun and shoot it first before you add the reliability kit you may not need it. I can shoot anything threw mine and I have never touched the gas system on it. Still running the stock gas puck and gas adjuster on mine.

February 29, 2012, 03:32 PM	#14
boostedtt91 Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2011 Location: Danville, Pa Posts: 520	yeah thats what im gonna do, im gonna get it and try a bunch of different types of ammo and see how things go and then go from there on what needs done. Now i just need to find where i can get the best deal on one

March 1, 2012, 04:36 PM	#16
boostedtt91 Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2011 Location: Danville, Pa Posts: 520	I just ordered one yesterday and it was shipped today so ill have it shortly. Im going to run to Walmart to get a couple box's of shotgun shells tonight since its the only place open i can get them. Since im new to shotguns, what are a couple different types of shells i should get to test out the gun

March 1, 2012, 11:00 PM	#17
M4BGRINGO Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2011 Posts: 256	Run 10 rounds or so of buckshot through it first. Check on the setting of the gas control knob, there are two positions, one lets more gas in than the other. After the buckshot change the knob to the other position and run birdshot through it. Both should cycle correctly.