Is what I've always suspected true?

jrsower · June 28, 2002, 07:21 AM

I've often theorized that those people in society that own and carry handguns are more than likely truck owners. I really do think there's some sort of correlation there. So let's find out.

Ceol Mhor · June 28, 2002, 08:28 AM

I spend my money on guns...the only vehicle I own is a bicycle.

'Course, I do have access to my parents' cars...

abrahamsmith · June 28, 2002, 09:05 AM

Well, there is probably a correlation, since people who live in rural areas are more likely to own guns. Also, I know of people who bought large trucks specifically to comfortably carry hunting dogs to NAVHDA competitions. Then there are the people who buy trucks to pull fishing boats, ATVs, etc.

For my part, I drive a 1990 Honda Accord with about 120,000 on it.. great little car. Hopefully it will last me through graduate school until I can afford something nicer.
I doubt I'll own a truck for a very long time, since I never really need to tow anything (knock on wood.. my motorycle is being reliable again). I also drive rather aggresively[*], and the high chasis and loose suspension of a truck just isn't suited to that sort of driving. More likely, I'd buy a 4wd car with a large trunk to carry plenty of ammo. (Hmm.... maybe an Audi A4 Quattro in woodland camofluage with a winch and KC lights?.. hehehe)
[*] not aggresively toward other drivers -- aggresively towards the ROAD.

Rovert · June 28, 2002, 09:06 AM

None of the above, for many reasons, not thet least of which is because I'm a bachelor.

I drive a Dodge Intrepid ES, because it was the idea balance of performance, economy, looks, comfort, and price; for my job as a sales rep. And, until just recently when I sold it, I also owned a 1986 Jaguar XJ-S V12 as my 'weekend' fun car.

I didn't buy a truck, because it is overpriced (expensive now 'cause they're "fashionable" since being called SUVs), lousy on gas, miserable to drive in terms of handling (topheavy), unsafe in bad weather due to their greater mass making them more difficult to control in a skid (despite the advertising-induced "zoom-zoom" misperception that they are somehow magically glued to the road by the 4 wheel drive), a PITA to park when I go to the city, offered no real practical benefits to me over a sedan, and a danger to others, if I were to get into an accident, because it causes more damage to whomever I were to hit.

Bet you're sorry you asked.

Jesse H · June 28, 2002, 09:12 AM

You'll have to add another option for those of us that don't drive trucks or boring passenger sedans.

Betty · June 28, 2002, 09:31 AM

Runt-sized pickup for me - 1991 4.3L Sonoma. Cars just don't "do" anything for me, especially sports cars (classics are fine) or "luxury" cars.

I do love big ol' muddy 4x4 trucks jacked up on the big tires (not the fancy sissy ones that never leave the pavement)- those are so HOT.

jimsbowies · June 28, 2002, 09:32 AM

Don't want no truck or Urban Assault Vehicle....and I tote "iron"...always have and always will...

BigG · June 28, 2002, 09:50 AM

No, I don't fit the profile and I garontee I got handguns!

C.R.Sam · June 28, 2002, 10:15 AM

None of the choices
Do pack.

Sam

tag · June 28, 2002, 10:25 AM

1999 Nissan Maxima SE
1997 Mazda Miata STO

Never have, never will own a truck or an Urban Assault Vehicle. Nope, guess I don't fit the "gunny" profile either. I carry every day and own numerous guns.

Personally, I think its good that not all gun owners are camo-wearing, truck-driving, Skoal-dippin', dog kickin' rednecks.

trapshooter · June 28, 2002, 10:26 AM

I've got a trash-hauler (beater 4x4 p.u.), an SUV (also 4x4, my bride's ride), a 'coupe', (for the kid), and then, there's my personal favorite. (Some might call it a 'Big Wheel', but I don't think this is what you meant).

Handy · June 28, 2002, 10:28 AM

I thought it was a fashion fau pax to carry HK weapons in anything but a BMW, so I bought a 3 series.

I've mostly owned sportscars.

trapshooter · June 28, 2002, 10:34 AM

(I thought it might be wise to smudge the plate). And, yeah, I own a 'few' handguns, among other types.

Mr.Wingshooter · June 28, 2002, 10:43 AM

I love my truck a 2001 Sierra 1500 Ext. Cab 4x4, but it sure is a lot more fun to drive sportscars, its kinda hard to powershift my truck. When I used to pull up to the range in my 300ZX people would look at my wierd. However, it is much easier to hunt out of the truck, and I can't justify haveing two vehicles, I'm just to tight with my money.

DMK · June 28, 2002, 11:03 AM

Nissan 200SX SE-R --> 30MPG even when I beat on it!

I do drive my Jeep YJ (14MPG) to the range though. It's on a long dirt road and my lowered Nissan doesn't like that very much.

Christopher II · June 28, 2002, 11:23 AM

I'd like to have an old beater truck as a second vehicle (for hauling loads, etc.) But other than that, trucks do little for me.

I like sport compacts, old muscle cars, and motorcycles. For the moment, I drive an ancient, POS Civic. It works, and costs me nothing.

And I do carry.

- Chris

CWL · June 28, 2002, 11:59 AM

Nope. No correlation.

People generally drive what they can afford and need for the area they live in. Your friends and the people you socialize with will generally like & drive similiar vehicles.

If you were a bus driver, you may tend to think everyone drives a bus.

Hemicuda · June 28, 2002, 12:30 PM

As my name implies, I have (and drive occasionally) a rare, hi-performance muscle car...

but my preferred daily driver is a '96 Dodge Ram 4X4... it has creature comforts in spades, but it also has brute torque to get me whereever I wanna go...

I alsohave an OLD, rusty, and not super trustworthy Jeep CJ-7... it's a family heirloom and a play toy...

my daily driver for work is a 95 Saturn SL-1... I got it heavily used for 800 bucks... promptly sold the "boom-boom" stereo out of it for the initial purchase price..., it gets 33 mpg, with the AC on... so toolin' around detroit all the time doesn't break the bank, nobody would steal it, and were it totalled in an accident, I am out literally NOTHING!

but again, the '96 Ram 4X4 is my preferred daily driver... so, "only a 4X4..." is the one I picked!

Pappy John · June 28, 2002, 01:09 PM

Yeah, 4x4 '96 Dakota with the 318 cid V8. Gotta haul my bass boat to the river with SOMEthing. Bought it new with all the available bells and whistles and plan on keeping it till the wheels fall off. Wifey's got a creampuff '92 LeBaron convertible with only 62K on it. It pretty much lives under the car port from October to April every year. Its a blast in the summer though.

ronin308 · June 28, 2002, 01:15 PM

I drive a 4x4 GMC Jimmy 4 door. When I graduate I want to get a German car, probably an Audi S4. And yes, I do carry.

Legionnaire · June 28, 2002, 01:16 PM

'98 Ford Ranger 4x4 (and an '89 before that). Not because it's "manly," though. Rather, it's small enough to work as a commuter vehicle, but the 4x4 gets me home during snowy upstate NY winters. Works great when deer hunting, as well. I've never gotten it stuck ... but carry a comealong just in case!

mattjoe · June 28, 2002, 02:11 PM

aww come on, add in another option for sports car or luxury car. Neither are boring old passenger cars.

Before I bought my Caddy STS i had more money in guns than anything else. Once i finish paying a Glock a month car payments, I guess more of my money will be in the Caddy.
Big enough trunk and back seat to take a good pile of guns to the club.
The only truck i'd ever want is one of those nice NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series racing trucks.

m.i.sanders · June 28, 2002, 02:21 PM

Have an old truck I drove for years, but I now drive a Civic, great on gas, and the whole family fits in it.

King · June 28, 2002, 02:41 PM

3/4 Ton Chevy 4 wheel drive, 2 Harley Davisdon's and at least one gun at any given time. I reckon that's the Texas way......

h_tolley · June 28, 2002, 02:46 PM

I drive a Saturn

, but it's just for comuting and getting parts. If I need to haul something in a truck, I have plenty of neighbors who will loan me theirs for a spell.

View Poll Results: What do you drive?
Manly, 4X4 cuz nothing else will do.	77	41.62%
2 Wheel drive truck cuz insurance is too high otherwise.	48	25.95%
Regular old passenger car cuz my wife has the truck.	34	18.38%
Big Wheel	12	6.49%
JEEP. Because everything else is just sucks.	14	7.57%
Voters: 185. You may not vote on this poll

June 28, 2002, 07:21 AM	#1
jrsower Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2002 Posts: 159	Is what I've always suspected true? I've often theorized that those people in society that own and carry handguns are more than likely truck owners. I really do think there's some sort of correlation there. So let's find out.

June 28, 2002, 08:28 AM	#2
Ceol Mhor Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2001 Posts: 1,043	I spend my money on guns...the only vehicle I own is a bicycle. 'Course, I do have access to my parents' cars... __________________ "There goes as if deranged a German soldier, with burning helmet on his head, making horrible noises. A second, as though possessed, yells "Jews...weapons. Jews...weapons." - From an anonymous eyewitness' description of the first battle of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising

June 28, 2002, 09:05 AM	#3
abrahamsmith Senior Member Join Date: October 5, 2000 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 177	Well, there is probably a correlation, since people who live in rural areas are more likely to own guns. Also, I know of people who bought large trucks specifically to comfortably carry hunting dogs to NAVHDA competitions. Then there are the people who buy trucks to pull fishing boats, ATVs, etc. For my part, I drive a 1990 Honda Accord with about 120,000 on it.. great little car. Hopefully it will last me through graduate school until I can afford something nicer. I doubt I'll own a truck for a very long time, since I never really need to tow anything (knock on wood.. my motorycle is being reliable again). I also drive rather aggresively[], and the high chasis and loose suspension of a truck just isn't suited to that sort of driving. More likely, I'd buy a 4wd car with a large trunk to carry plenty of ammo. (Hmm.... maybe an Audi A4 Quattro in woodland camofluage with a winch and KC lights?.. hehehe) [] not aggresively toward other drivers -- aggresively towards the ROAD. __________________ Abe Smith, President of UW-Madison's Student Alliance for Firearm Education and Responsibility

June 28, 2002, 09:06 AM	#4
Rovert Senior Member Join Date: October 6, 2001 Posts: 824	None of the above, for many reasons, not thet least of which is because I'm a bachelor. I drive a Dodge Intrepid ES, because it was the idea balance of performance, economy, looks, comfort, and price; for my job as a sales rep. And, until just recently when I sold it, I also owned a 1986 Jaguar XJ-S V12 as my 'weekend' fun car. I didn't buy a truck, because it is overpriced (expensive now 'cause they're "fashionable" since being called SUVs), lousy on gas, miserable to drive in terms of handling (topheavy), unsafe in bad weather due to their greater mass making them more difficult to control in a skid (despite the advertising-induced "zoom-zoom" misperception that they are somehow magically glued to the road by the 4 wheel drive), a PITA to park when I go to the city, offered no real practical benefits to me over a sedan, and a danger to others, if I were to get into an accident, because it causes more damage to whomever I were to hit. Bet you're sorry you asked. __________________ "Following the path of least resistance is what makes rivers, and men, crooked."

June 28, 2002, 09:12 AM	#5
Jesse H Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2001 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 573	You'll have to add another option for those of us that don't drive trucks or boring passenger sedans. __________________ Jesse "We’ll raise up our glasses against evil forces Singing whiskey for my men, beer for my horses" -Toby Keith

June 28, 2002, 09:31 AM	#6
Betty Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2000 Location: southern U.S. Posts: 1,807	Runt-sized pickup for me - 1991 4.3L Sonoma. Cars just don't "do" anything for me, especially sports cars (classics are fine) or "luxury" cars. I do love big ol' muddy 4x4 trucks jacked up on the big tires (not the fancy sissy ones that never leave the pavement)- those are so HOT.

June 28, 2002, 09:32 AM	#7
jimsbowies Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Charlotte Posts: 332	Mustang Convertible Don't want no truck or Urban Assault Vehicle....and I tote "iron"...always have and always will...

June 28, 2002, 09:50 AM	#8
BigG Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 1999 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 4,334	No, I don't fit the profile and I garontee I got handguns! __________________ o "The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching." Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC o "In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain o "They have gun control in Cuba. They have universal health care in Cuba. So why do they want to come here?" Paul Harvey o TODAY WE CARVE OUT OUR OWN OMENS! Leonidas, Thermopylae, 480 BC

June 28, 2002, 10:15 AM	#9
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	None of the choices Do pack. Sam

June 28, 2002, 10:25 AM	#10
tag Senior Member Join Date: September 3, 2001 Location: Middle TN Posts: 111	1999 Nissan Maxima SE 1997 Mazda Miata STO Never have, never will own a truck or an Urban Assault Vehicle. Nope, guess I don't fit the "gunny" profile either. I carry every day and own numerous guns. Personally, I think its good that not all gun owners are camo-wearing, truck-driving, Skoal-dippin', dog kickin' rednecks.

June 28, 2002, 10:26 AM	#11
trapshooter Junior member Join Date: January 2, 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 902	I've got a trash-hauler (beater 4x4 p.u.), an SUV (also 4x4, my bride's ride), a 'coupe', (for the kid), and then, there's my personal favorite. (Some might call it a 'Big Wheel', but I don't think this is what you meant).

June 28, 2002, 10:28 AM	#12
Handy Junior member Join Date: August 31, 2001 Posts: 8,785	I thought it was a fashion fau pax to carry HK weapons in anything but a BMW, so I bought a 3 series. I've mostly owned sportscars.

June 28, 2002, 10:43 AM	#14
Mr.Wingshooter Junior member Join Date: April 23, 2002 Location: Arkeysaw Posts: 171	Truck for hunting, Vette for fun I love my truck a 2001 Sierra 1500 Ext. Cab 4x4, but it sure is a lot more fun to drive sportscars, its kinda hard to powershift my truck. When I used to pull up to the range in my 300ZX people would look at my wierd. However, it is much easier to hunt out of the truck, and I can't justify haveing two vehicles, I'm just to tight with my money.

June 28, 2002, 11:03 AM	#15
DMK Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2001 Location: Over the hills and far, far away Posts: 3,206	Nissan 200SX SE-R --> 30MPG even when I beat on it! I do drive my Jeep YJ (14MPG) to the range though. It's on a long dirt road and my lowered Nissan doesn't like that very much. __________________ - Homeland Security begins at home: Support your Second Amendment - www.gunowners.org - www.saf.org - act.nraila.org - www.grnc.org

June 28, 2002, 11:23 AM	#16
Christopher II Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 1999 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 2,349	I'd like to have an old beater truck as a second vehicle (for hauling loads, etc.) But other than that, trucks do little for me. I like sport compacts, old muscle cars, and motorcycles. For the moment, I drive an ancient, POS Civic. It works, and costs me nothing. And I do carry. - Chris __________________ "There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him." – Robert Heinlein "Contrary to popular belief, your vote does not matter, and you cannot make a difference." - Bob Murphy, "Picking Neither of Two Evils" My PGP Public Key

June 28, 2002, 11:59 AM	#17
CWL Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2001 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,576	Nope. No correlation. People generally drive what they can afford and need for the area they live in. Your friends and the people you socialize with will generally like & drive similiar vehicles. If you were a bus driver, you may tend to think everyone drives a bus.

June 28, 2002, 12:30 PM	#18
Hemicuda Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,757	As my name implies, I have (and drive occasionally) a rare, hi-performance muscle car... but my preferred daily driver is a '96 Dodge Ram 4X4... it has creature comforts in spades, but it also has brute torque to get me whereever I wanna go... I alsohave an OLD, rusty, and not super trustworthy Jeep CJ-7... it's a family heirloom and a play toy... my daily driver for work is a 95 Saturn SL-1... I got it heavily used for 800 bucks... promptly sold the "boom-boom" stereo out of it for the initial purchase price..., it gets 33 mpg, with the AC on... so toolin' around detroit all the time doesn't break the bank, nobody would steal it, and were it totalled in an accident, I am out literally NOTHING! but again, the '96 Ram 4X4 is my preferred daily driver... so, "only a 4X4..." is the one I picked! __________________ Hemi. gun and car collector. Rare cars, and rarer guns.

June 28, 2002, 01:09 PM	#19
Pappy John Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2001 Location: the lower Susquehanna Valley Posts: 848	Four wheel drive is great for getting you stuck where no tow truck can reach you. Yeah, 4x4 '96 Dakota with the 318 cid V8. Gotta haul my bass boat to the river with SOMEthing. Bought it new with all the available bells and whistles and plan on keeping it till the wheels fall off. Wifey's got a creampuff '92 LeBaron convertible with only 62K on it. It pretty much lives under the car port from October to April every year. Its a blast in the summer though.

June 28, 2002, 01:15 PM	#20
ronin308 Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2001 Posts: 1,977	I drive a 4x4 GMC Jimmy 4 door. When I graduate I want to get a German car, probably an Audi S4. And yes, I do carry. __________________ If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara desert in five years there’d be a shortage of sand. -Milton Friedman

June 28, 2002, 01:16 PM	#21
Legionnaire Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2000 Location: Central TX Posts: 1,503	'98 Ford Ranger 4x4 (and an '89 before that). Not because it's "manly," though. Rather, it's small enough to work as a commuter vehicle, but the 4x4 gets me home during snowy upstate NY winters. Works great when deer hunting, as well. I've never gotten it stuck ... but carry a comealong just in case! __________________ Cogito, ergo armatus sum.

June 28, 2002, 02:11 PM	#22
mattjoe Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2001 Location: in my house or at the gun club Posts: 109	aww come on, add in another option for sports car or luxury car. Neither are boring old passenger cars. Before I bought my Caddy STS i had more money in guns than anything else. Once i finish paying a Glock a month car payments, I guess more of my money will be in the Caddy. Big enough trunk and back seat to take a good pile of guns to the club. The only truck i'd ever want is one of those nice NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series racing trucks.

June 28, 2002, 02:21 PM	#23
m.i.sanders Senior Member Join Date: May 5, 2002 Location: Upstate South Carolina Posts: 127	Have an old truck I drove for years, but I now drive a Civic, great on gas, and the whole family fits in it. __________________ MOLON LABE THR (My other home) Grassroots SC "How can something seem so plausible at the time and so idiotic in retrospect?" -Calvin of Calvin and Hobbes

June 28, 2002, 02:41 PM	#24
King Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2002 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 297	3/4 Ton Chevy 4 wheel drive, 2 Harley Davisdon's and at least one gun at any given time. I reckon that's the Texas way...... __________________ "King"

June 28, 2002, 02:46 PM	#25
h_tolley Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2001 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 150	I drive a Saturn , but it's just for comuting and getting parts. If I need to haul something in a truck, I have plenty of neighbors who will loan me theirs for a spell.