Congressman Thomas Rooney Poll on awb etc...

Jamaicanj · January 18, 2013, 04:40 PM

Congressman Thomas Rooney has posted a poll to gauge interest in the assault weapons ban, magazine restrictions etc. I have put the link below. You will need to send it to yourself via email, the button (tell a friend) is at the top right portion of the page otherwise your vote won't count (it will appear as if the original person keeps revoting).

http://rooney.congressnewsletter.net...3880.449&gen=3

CharlieDeltaJuliet · January 18, 2013, 04:47 PM

Voted

jd70 · January 18, 2013, 07:02 PM

voted!

Jamaicanj · January 23, 2013, 12:21 PM

Please forward the poll to your friends and family.

Thanks

Skadoosh · January 23, 2013, 12:25 PM

I am surprised by the support that universal back ground checks is receiving.

Aside from being tantamount to a universal gun registry, I don't want my executor to be hindered in bequeathing my firearms to my children or grandchildren.

scrubcedar · January 23, 2013, 12:56 PM

I agree skadoosh, I'm surprised about that as well. Maybe we ought to be looking for statistics that make it clear that criminals obtain their guns not from legal sources but outside of the legal methods. If that became clear the background check support should drop.

winter5470 · January 23, 2013, 01:03 PM

done

flyinpolack · January 23, 2013, 01:09 PM

Voted

Quote:

I am surprised by the support that universal back ground checks is receiving.

I think this is because the general public do not see universal background checks as being connected to a registry.
Also, to those that do not own guns, the term "background checks" feels good...

lcpiper · January 23, 2013, 01:26 PM

Furthermore, the uninformed are being told that the new background checks are to close loopholes in the system that allow bad guys to buy guns at gun shows without a background check.

We know the truth, these sales are private sales, most do not happen at gun shows, and those that do, as often as not, are a seller selling to a dealer who doesn't need a background check anyway.

But the wording is, sales that are made withut a background check, no one is saying who is buy, who is selling, only the implication that it makes it easy for criminals to buy that way.

The disinformation campaign is still firmly on track.

Willie Sutton · January 23, 2013, 01:34 PM

Furthermore, the uninformed are being told that the new background checks are to close loopholes in the system that allow bad guys to buy guns at gun shows without a background check.

Hate to say it, and believe me I am on the side of the RKBA, but.....

That's exactly how I would buy firearms if I were a prohibited person.

So: If keeping firearms away from prohibited persons is a goal, I can clearly see their point. It's a hard point to argue against.

Willie

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lcpiper · January 23, 2013, 01:54 PM

The problem is that it is an intrusion on our right of property ownership. If the property is ours, legally owned, legally obtained, it's ****-all anyone else business what I do with it in regards to sale or disposition.

Remember they don't stop at what is reasonable, they just keep on digging.

They know good and well that the criminal will still break the law to do what he wants to do so why do they keep trying?

Here is a list of the stepping stones;

Background checks for retail purchase.
Background checks for private sale.
Need more proof, keep the records for analysis.
****, people still getting shot, just take all those guns.

BTW, knives are sharp, no assault knives .....

Somewhere down the line you have to look at these people and just tell them, "NO", "You can't legislate a perfect world".

EDIT: If they can't get it done this way they will try it another. Like smoking, I smoked and I'll be real, I quit over a year ago and I am happy I did. But right down to the bone I resent the way I was made to quit.

They couldn't get a law passed banning smoking so they just kept raising the taxes, they lied about where the tax money went. It was hard to oppose the taxes at first, the money was supposed to help smoking victims, right. All that money did was go everywhere else for everything else.
I remember paying over double the price for smokes in Arizona then what they cost in Texas. It was just robbery and it just got too damned expensive to smoke. If they can't get a ban thru they will try to tax the guns and the ammo to death. They will slowly drive away gun ownership whittling down the number who care until none remain to oppose them. Then they will get their laws through.

They drove the cost of my habit from about $90 a month to more then a new car payment.

I resent my country for allowing this to happen because no matter what the "good intentions" are, the end result is just another form of coercion and it robbed my Family of so much money.

Beware other people's good intentions.

zincwarrior · January 23, 2013, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Furthermore, the uninformed are being told that the new background checks are to close loopholes in the system that allow bad guys to buy guns at gun shows without a background check.

Hate to say it, and believe me I am on the side of the RKBA, but.....

That's exactly how I would buy firearms if I were a prohibited person.

So: If keeping firearms away from prohibited persons is a goal, I can clearly see their point. It's a hard point to argue against.

Willie

.

Agreed.

Quote:

The problem is that it is an intrusion on our right of property ownership. If the property is ours, legally owned, legally obtained, it's ****-all anyone else business what I do with it in regards to sale or disposition.

You have no rights under the Second Amendment to not have your transaction recorded, nor do you have rights to minor intrusions on the transfer of property. Regulations on contracts - including that they be in written depending on certain factors - have been in place for longer than there has been a USA.

scrubcedar · January 23, 2013, 05:12 PM

http://cdn.motinetwork.net/failepicf...1355882394.jpg

^^^^
This

nazshooter · January 24, 2013, 11:47 PM

Zincwarrior:

So, you're ok with every single American being required to get permission from the Federal government prior to exercising their 2a rights?

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17ghk · January 27, 2013, 10:58 PM

voted

TXAZ · January 27, 2013, 11:03 PM

As of 11 PM Eastern time Jan 27, the poll looked like this:

Do support reinstating a ban on certain semi-automatic weapons?

Yes
43.16%

No
52.87%

Not sure
3.97%

Do you support universal background checks for all gun purchases?

Yes
74.63%

No
20.67%

Not sure
4.70%

Do you support having a uniformed law enforcement official at every school?

Yes
49.75%

No
33.99%

Not sure
16.26%

Do you support a 10-round limit on ammunition magazines?

Yes
42.81%

No
51.39%

Not sure
5.80%

January 18, 2013, 04:40 PM	#1
Jamaicanj Member Join Date: September 21, 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 19	Congressman Thomas Rooney Poll on awb etc... Congressman Thomas Rooney has posted a poll to gauge interest in the assault weapons ban, magazine restrictions etc. I have put the link below. You will need to send it to yourself via email, the button (tell a friend) is at the top right portion of the page otherwise your vote won't count (it will appear as if the original person keeps revoting). http://rooney.congressnewsletter.net...3880.449&gen=3 __________________ Go Gators/Wildcats!!! Glock Cert. Armorer GSSF Member

January 18, 2013, 04:47 PM	#2
CharlieDeltaJuliet Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2012 Posts: 755	Voted __________________ " The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government...." - Thomas Jefferson

January 23, 2013, 12:21 PM	#4
Jamaicanj Member Join Date: September 21, 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 19	Please forward the poll to your friends and family. Thanks __________________ Go Gators/Wildcats!!! Glock Cert. Armorer GSSF Member

January 23, 2013, 12:25 PM	#5
Skadoosh Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2010 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 2,016	I am surprised by the support that universal back ground checks is receiving. Aside from being tantamount to a universal gun registry, I don't want my executor to be hindered in bequeathing my firearms to my children or grandchildren. __________________ NRA Life Member USN Retired

January 23, 2013, 12:56 PM	#6
scrubcedar Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2012 Location: Southwestern Colorado Posts: 507	I agree skadoosh, I'm surprised about that as well. Maybe we ought to be looking for statistics that make it clear that criminals obtain their guns not from legal sources but outside of the legal methods. If that became clear the background check support should drop. __________________ Gaily bedight, A gallant knight In sunshine and in shadow, Had journeyed long, Singing a song, In search of El Dorado

January 18, 2013, 07:02 PM	#3
jd70 Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Posts: 25	voted!

January 23, 2013, 01:03 PM	#7
winter5470 Member Join Date: January 5, 2009 Posts: 19	done

January 23, 2013, 01:26 PM	#9
lcpiper Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2011 Posts: 1,405	Furthermore, the uninformed are being told that the new background checks are to close loopholes in the system that allow bad guys to buy guns at gun shows without a background check. We know the truth, these sales are private sales, most do not happen at gun shows, and those that do, as often as not, are a seller selling to a dealer who doesn't need a background check anyway. But the wording is, sales that are made withut a background check, no one is saying who is buy, who is selling, only the implication that it makes it easy for criminals to buy that way. The disinformation campaign is still firmly on track. __________________ Colt M1911, AR-15 \| S&W Model 19, Model 27\| SIG P238 \| Berreta 85B Cheetah \| Ruger Blackhawk .357MAG, Bearcat "Shopkeeper" .22LR\| Remington Marine Magnum SP 12GA., Model 700 SPS .223

January 23, 2013, 01:34 PM	#10
Willie Sutton Junior member Join Date: January 26, 2012 Posts: 1,066	Furthermore, the uninformed are being told that the new background checks are to close loopholes in the system that allow bad guys to buy guns at gun shows without a background check. Hate to say it, and believe me I am on the side of the RKBA, but..... That's exactly how I would buy firearms if I were a prohibited person. So: If keeping firearms away from prohibited persons is a goal, I can clearly see their point. It's a hard point to argue against. Willie .

January 23, 2013, 01:54 PM	#11
lcpiper Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2011 Posts: 1,405	The problem is that it is an intrusion on our right of property ownership. If the property is ours, legally owned, legally obtained, it's **-all anyone else business what I do with it in regards to sale or disposition. Remember they don't stop at what is reasonable, they just keep on digging. They know good and well that the criminal will still break the law to do what he wants to do so why do they keep trying? Here is a list of the stepping stones; Background checks for retail purchase. Background checks for private sale. Need more proof, keep the records for analysis. , people still getting shot, just take all those guns. BTW, knives are sharp, no assault knives ..... Somewhere down the line you have to look at these people and just tell them, "NO", "You can't legislate a perfect world". EDIT: If they can't get it done this way they will try it another. Like smoking, I smoked and I'll be real, I quit over a year ago and I am happy I did. But right down to the bone I resent the way I was made to quit. They couldn't get a law passed banning smoking so they just kept raising the taxes, they lied about where the tax money went. It was hard to oppose the taxes at first, the money was supposed to help smoking victims, right. All that money did was go everywhere else for everything else. I remember paying over double the price for smokes in Arizona then what they cost in Texas. It was just robbery and it just got too damned expensive to smoke. If they can't get a ban thru they will try to tax the guns and the ammo to death. They will slowly drive away gun ownership whittling down the number who care until none remain to oppose them. Then they will get their laws through. They drove the cost of my habit from about $90 a month to more then a new car payment. I resent my country for allowing this to happen because no matter what the "good intentions" are, the end result is just another form of coercion and it robbed my Family of so much money. Beware other people's good intentions. __________________ Colt M1911, AR-15 \| S&W Model 19, Model 27\| SIG P238 \| Berreta 85B Cheetah \| Ruger Blackhawk .357MAG, Bearcat "Shopkeeper" .22LR\| Remington** Marine Magnum SP 12GA., Model 700 SPS .223 Last edited by lcpiper; January 23, 2013 at 02:08 PM.

January 23, 2013, 05:12 PM	#13
scrubcedar Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2012 Location: Southwestern Colorado Posts: 507	http://cdn.motinetwork.net/failepicf...1355882394.jpg ^^^^ This __________________ Gaily bedight, A gallant knight In sunshine and in shadow, Had journeyed long, Singing a song, In search of El Dorado

January 24, 2013, 11:47 PM	#14
nazshooter Senior Member Join Date: November 7, 2008 Posts: 151	Zincwarrior: So, you're ok with every single American being required to get permission from the Federal government prior to exercising their 2a rights? Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2

January 27, 2013, 10:58 PM	#15
17ghk Member Join Date: December 16, 2007 Location: austintown, ohio Posts: 45	voted __________________ HOCKEY ABOVE ALL

January 27, 2013, 11:03 PM	#16
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	As of 11 PM Eastern time Jan 27, the poll looked like this: Do support reinstating a ban on certain semi-automatic weapons? Yes 43.16% No 52.87% Not sure 3.97% Do you support universal background checks for all gun purchases? Yes 74.63% No 20.67% Not sure 4.70% Do you support having a uniformed law enforcement official at every school? Yes 49.75% No 33.99% Not sure 16.26% Do you support a 10-round limit on ammunition magazines? Yes 42.81% No 51.39% Not sure 5.80% __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes