Best shot I have ever heard of - Page 2

ninjarealist · December 9, 2014, 01:07 AM

After watching too many Hickok45 videos I'm less surprised by this than I should be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFd3kF6LHz4

1stmar · December 9, 2014, 05:31 AM

If you can see the head of an uspsa target at 100 you have great vision

**Aguila Blanca** · December 9, 2014, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DNS

Luck?

I really don't think so. He made the shot on the first try.

IMHO the fact that he did it on the first try simply reinforces the notion that it was a lucky shot. Even if one practices at 100 yards, the ability to score hits at 100 yards is heavily predicated on knowing the exact distance and having known reference points by which to judge the not-insignificant holdover. Here we have a police officer who almost certainly does NOT train with his duty sidearm at 100 yards, taking a shot at an unknown distance, and scoring a hit on the first shot. I respectfully submit that without luck, that's flat out impossible.

RaySendero · December 9, 2014, 07:46 AM

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JWT wrote:

Skill?, luck?, or a bit of both....

JWT, MH, AB and jmr,

Not knowing the officer, My gut feel is "LUCK". However, I have a friend and shooting buddy that could make that shot consistently. So I know one could be trained and practice to that level.

He is an retired military combat pistol instructor - He taught special forces pistol for his last 4 yrs. He's an unbelievable shot - Could consistently hit the 200 yd rifle gong standing 2-hand more than most could hit it standing off hand with their scoped rifle. Many times at the range, I've seen him win a bet from an unbeliever who spoke too soon - "Oh No, that's not possible"!

Skans · December 9, 2014, 08:58 AM

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Almost unbelievable to me. But my hat's off to him...

It's a conspiracy. There was second shooter hiding on a grassy knoll behind a picket fence.

boltomatic · December 9, 2014, 09:12 AM

How about hitting a target 3/4 of a mile away traveling at a speed of 20mph?

http://tracking-point.com/precision-...tactical-stock

For the low price of $30,000!

Double Naught Spy · December 9, 2014, 09:54 AM

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IMHO the fact that he did it on the first try simply reinforces the notion that it was a lucky shot. Even if one practices at 100 yards, the ability to score hits at 100 yards is heavily predicated on knowing the exact distance and having known reference points by which to judge the not-insignificant holdover. Here we have a police officer who almost certainly does NOT train with his duty sidearm at 100 yards, taking a shot at an unknown distance, and scoring a hit on the first shot. I respectfully submit that without luck, that's flat out impossible.

So basically, you are arguing from the position of ignorance about the officer's shooting abilities, what it takes to shoot 100 yards (and no, you don't need to know an "exact distance" to make such a hit at that approximate distance as noted), the officer's ability to assess shooting distance, and the officer's understanding of his local environment.

Okay, I respectfully understand your perspective.

**Aguila Blanca** · December 9, 2014, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DNS

So basically, you are arguing from the position of ignorance about the officer's shooting abilities, what it takes to shoot 100 yards (and no, you don't need to know an "exact distance" to make such a hit at that approximate distance as noted), the officer's ability to assess shooting distance, and the officer's understanding of his local environment.

Okay, I respectfully understand your perspective.

You are correct on two out of four, and I respectfully submit that the fourth isn't a valid factor.

Correct, I don't know the officer's shooting ability. Neither do you.
Incorrect. I do know what it takes to shoot at 100 yards. Been there, done that. How about you?
Correct, I do not know the officer's ability to correctly assess target distance away from a shooting range. Neither do you.
??? I don't see what the officer's "understanding of his local environment" has to do with making a first-shot hit at a distance of 312 feet -- one-handed, while holding onto two horses with the other hand.

45_auto · December 9, 2014, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 1stmar

If you can see the head of an uspsa target at 100 you have great vision

The head of a USPSA target is 6" x 6" (well, actually 5.9" x 5.9").

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/939...rget-cardboard

Seems to me it would take some pretty sorry vision NOT to be able to see it at 100 yards.

A standard skeet clay pigeon is 4.3" in diameter, those are probably one of the most common targets on the 100 yard berm!

Rembrandt · December 9, 2014, 07:40 PM

Here's the story about LT Owen J. Bagget, a WWII Bomber Pilot who shot down a Jap Zero with four shots from his 1911.

http://www.guns.com/2011/09/07/how-a...-zero-fighter/

STEINER · December 10, 2014, 02:45 PM

Remember the Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada?
Twenty years ago the hired bouncer there pulled off a shot like this OP.

A professional boxer was beating one of the girls and the bouncer
took a shot from a very long distance. I don't know the distance but it
was a couple hundred feet or longer.
I think he used a short 38 revolver.
He killed the perp. Must have angled it at a forty five degree line.

December 9, 2014, 01:07 AM	#26
ninjarealist Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 2014 Posts: 213	After watching too many Hickok45 videos I'm less surprised by this than I should be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFd3kF6LHz4

December 9, 2014, 05:31 AM	#27
1stmar Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,378	If you can see the head of an uspsa target at 100 you have great vision

December 9, 2014, 09:12 AM	#31
boltomatic Member Join Date: March 25, 2014 Posts: 98	How about hitting a target 3/4 of a mile away traveling at a speed of 20mph? http://tracking-point.com/precision-...tactical-stock For the low price of $30,000!

December 9, 2014, 07:40 PM	#35
Rembrandt Senior Member Join Date: August 10, 2002 Posts: 2,108	Here's the story about LT Owen J. Bagget, a WWII Bomber Pilot who shot down a Jap Zero with four shots from his 1911. http://www.guns.com/2011/09/07/how-a...-zero-fighter/

December 10, 2014, 02:45 PM	#36
STEINER Senior Member Join Date: September 24, 2008 Posts: 168	Remember the Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada? Twenty years ago the hired bouncer there pulled off a shot like this OP. A professional boxer was beating one of the girls and the bouncer took a shot from a very long distance. I don't know the distance but it was a couple hundred feet or longer. I think he used a short 38 revolver. He killed the perp. Must have angled it at a forty five degree line.