45 colt 255 gr swc 40 gr 777 no wad ?

andrewstorm · August 8, 2010, 04:44 PM

is this a good hunting load,any suggestions?

g.willikers · August 8, 2010, 05:02 PM

It might be a little light for elephant.

denster · August 8, 2010, 05:38 PM

I don't believe you can get 40gr of 777 in a 45Colt case without some heavy compression and 777 doesn't work well with heavy compression.

wittzo · August 8, 2010, 07:22 PM

Knock it back to 30 grains. That should give you contact with the powder with minimal compression. 777 is 15% more powerful in volume than regular BP or other substitutes and it's bad mojo to compress it in a cartridge.

andrewstorm · August 8, 2010, 08:14 PM

from my volumetric measure,I can fit 40 gr 777 in the case but it will be compressed with a 255 grain bullet,anyone know if this load Will top 1000 fps

Hawg · August 8, 2010, 08:20 PM

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from my volumetric measure,I can fit 40 gr 777 in the case but it will be compressed with a 255 grain bullet,anyone know if this load Will top 1000 fps

You don't want to compress 777. Bullet needs to just touch powder.

ClemBert · August 8, 2010, 08:45 PM

Ditto...do not compress the 777. Just enough for the bullet to gently push on it slightly.

p.s. that 777 should be FF not FFF in a cartridge.

Model-P · August 8, 2010, 10:33 PM

That makes four who have said to NOT compress 777. It'll require another eight to make a full jury conviction stick

Fingers McGee · August 8, 2010, 11:04 PM

Here's the straight skinney from the web site:

Triple Seven In Cartridges: Use data specifically developed for Triple Seven FFG only. Cartridge loads should be used exactly as listed in this pamphlet. You may safely use a card or polyethylene wad up to .030" in thickness to protect the base of the bullet. Loading density should be 100% with light compression not to exceed .100". Testing has shown that Triple Seven will perform best when the bullet just touches the powder. Allow no airspace between the base of the bullet and the powder. Do not reduce loads by means of filler wads or inert filler material such as Grits, Dacron or Grex. Do not heavily compress powder charges. The use of filler wads, inert fillers or heavy compression may cause a dangerous situation, which could cause injury and/or death to the shooter, bystanders or damage property. Do not create loads for cartridges not listed. Contact Hodgdon Powder Company for recommendations concerning other loads.

And here's where the load data is:
http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/muzzleloa...?CHECKBOX_1=on

According to it, 30 gr of ffg under a 250 gr LRNFP will get you about 840 fps.

August 8, 2010, 04:44 PM	#1
andrewstorm Junior member Join Date: October 4, 2009 Posts: 198	45 colt 255 gr swc 40 gr 777 no wad ? is this a good hunting load,any suggestions?

August 8, 2010, 08:14 PM	#5
andrewstorm Junior member Join Date: October 4, 2009 Posts: 198	40 gr 777 3 f from my volumetric measure,I can fit 40 gr 777 in the case but it will be compressed with a 255 grain bullet,anyone know if this load Will top 1000 fps

August 8, 2010, 11:04 PM	#9
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	Here's the straight skinney from the web site: Triple Seven In Cartridges: Use data specifically developed for Triple Seven FFG only. Cartridge loads should be used exactly as listed in this pamphlet. You may safely use a card or polyethylene wad up to .030" in thickness to protect the base of the bullet. Loading density should be 100% with light compression not to exceed .100". Testing has shown that Triple Seven will perform best when the bullet just touches the powder. Allow no airspace between the base of the bullet and the powder. Do not reduce loads by means of filler wads or inert filler material such as Grits, Dacron or Grex. Do not heavily compress powder charges. The use of filler wads, inert fillers or heavy compression may cause a dangerous situation, which could cause injury and/or death to the shooter, bystanders or damage property. Do not create loads for cartridges not listed. Contact Hodgdon Powder Company for recommendations concerning other loads. And here's where the load data is: http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/muzzleloa...?CHECKBOX_1=on According to it, 30 gr of ffg under a 250 gr LRNFP will get you about 840 fps. __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

August 8, 2010, 05:02 PM	#2
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	It might be a little light for elephant.

August 8, 2010, 05:38 PM	#3
denster Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 581	I don't believe you can get 40gr of 777 in a 45Colt case without some heavy compression and 777 doesn't work well with heavy compression.

August 8, 2010, 07:22 PM	#4
wittzo Member Join Date: February 10, 2010 Posts: 95	Knock it back to 30 grains. That should give you contact with the powder with minimal compression. 777 is 15% more powerful in volume than regular BP or other substitutes and it's bad mojo to compress it in a cartridge.

August 8, 2010, 08:45 PM	#7
ClemBert Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 936	Ditto...do not compress the 777. Just enough for the bullet to gently push on it slightly. p.s. that 777 should be FF not FFF in a cartridge.

August 8, 2010, 10:33 PM	#8
Model-P Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2009 Posts: 727	That makes four who have said to NOT compress 777. It'll require another eight to make a full jury conviction stick