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Old January 14, 2013, 09:53 PM   #1
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Best Choice for HD Rifle With Only Seven Rounds

- If you use or are planning on using a rifle for self or home defense

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- You are restricted to seven rounds

Which rifle (or other long gun) would you pick and why?
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Old January 14, 2013, 09:55 PM   #2
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An AR with a 7 round magazine. I have plenty of practice on the platform so if I need to change magazines I am fast, and the 5.56/.223 with defensive ammo is a force to be reckoned with. Follow up shots (when needed) are quick and accurate, and excessive penetration is not as much of a worry as with other calibers.
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Old January 14, 2013, 11:22 PM   #3
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Mini-14. You can modify the 5 round mag to hold 6 rounds and with one in the pipe you have 7 rounds.
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Old January 14, 2013, 11:28 PM   #4
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An AA12 shotgun
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Old January 15, 2013, 12:30 AM   #5
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An AA12 shotgun
The OP asked about a 7 shot RIFLE, not a shotgun. Thats why its in the rifle forum. I wondered how long it would take before someone didn't read the original post and suggested a shotgun. I didn't have long to wait.
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Old January 15, 2013, 12:39 AM   #6
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@ratshooter- The OP did say "rifle or other long gun." While you are right, this is the Rifle forum, the OP did open it up to shotguns, albeit perhaps not intentionally. I will refrain from making a comment about criticizing people for reading the original post...

@OP- While I would normally reccomend a shotgun, to keep ratshooter from bad mouthing me , I would have to suggest my Mosin m44- 5 rounds of heavy ammo, and with the bayonet out, I might stab a threat before shooting him...
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Old January 15, 2013, 01:05 AM   #7
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I would have to suggest my Mosin m44- 5 rounds of heavy ammo, and with the bayonet out, I might stab a threat before shooting him...
It's statements like this that are going to get our assault knives banned next....
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Old January 15, 2013, 01:19 AM   #8
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Nah, remember, Obama thinks bayonets are obsolete anyways...
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Old January 15, 2013, 01:21 AM   #9
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Nah, remember, Obama thinks bayonets are obsolete anyways...
Just wait 'till all of those poor, medicaided, help-needing criminals show up to the morgues and hospitals stabbed because the first 7 shots weren't convincing enough to get them to leave...
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Old January 15, 2013, 01:26 AM   #10
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While I would not in all honesty use my m44 as a rifle for home defense (1 bedroom apartment), as a spear, hmmm, perhaps.
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Old January 15, 2013, 01:49 AM   #11
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I would put 7 .223s in a playboy and throw it at the intruder. I will abide by the 7 round magazine.
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Old January 15, 2013, 03:02 AM   #12
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Why 7? Seems like such an odd number.

In that case I'd take a rifled shotgun with slugs.
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Old January 15, 2013, 03:20 AM   #13
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My first rifle choice would be a AR with a modified 10 round magazine. Magpul just released a new 10 rounder, and the right size spacer inside of it would limit it to just 7 rounds. Assuming that's out of the picture, I would probably opt for a Marlin guide gun, particularly the SBL model. For the scatter gun route, the trusty 870 with a tube extension would be legal and work just fine.
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Old January 15, 2013, 04:58 AM   #14
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Shotgun without a doubt. Shotgun v. 30 round AR is arguable, but 7 rounds?

Not a mini for sure. With a 7 round mag I would want fast smooth mag changes, so the AR would win there.

Can you have multiple mags that feed simultaneously? I saw what looked like two doublestack mags feeding into another doublestack mag the other day(all in one parent mag body). Couldn't the mag at the top be integral? Maybe not. Free market puts a million dollars in the bank of whoever designs their way around this crap.
I was thinking a short AWB might be awesome. Gattling gun tech would take off.

Pocket gattlers for CCW.
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Old January 15, 2013, 06:26 AM   #15
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Marlin 1894 SS with a "plug" to bring it down to 7 shots. If that doesn't fit the requirements, I guess a Marlin 336, although I'm giving up 1 shot.

With either of these, I can be sure what I hit stays down and they offer good follow up.
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Old January 15, 2013, 07:02 AM   #16
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"Magpul just released a new 10 rounder, and the right size spacer inside of it would limit it to just 7 rounds. "

It appears any new ban like the one being proposed in NY to limit magazines to 7 rounds will include the word "permanent" in the clause so "spacers" may not make the grade.
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Old January 15, 2013, 07:52 AM   #17
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Seven round mag? Nothing will change for my HD rifle and shotgun.
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Old January 15, 2013, 07:58 AM   #18
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Assuming HD means inside the home defense, a 12 gauge Shotgun would be my choice.
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Old January 15, 2013, 08:18 AM   #19
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The Rossi Ranch Hand holds six rounds in the tube + 1 in the chamber.

You can get one of these in 45 colt, .44 magnum or .357 magnum.

If you must use a rifle for home defense and AR's have been banned in your state, consider a rifle that uses handgun ammo.

http://www.rossiusa.com/product-list.cfm?category=17



If you are a resident of the state of New York, the number 7 is relevant because that is the number of rounds, deemed by Emperor Cuomo, as "safe" for his subjects to have loaded in a firearm.

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Old January 15, 2013, 08:36 AM   #20
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A lever gun in .44 mag.
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Old January 15, 2013, 09:32 AM   #21
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Same thing I have always depended on: a Remington 870 pump shotgun with 18" barrel and extended mag.
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Old January 15, 2013, 09:40 AM   #22
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Two 7 round mags taped together makes a 14 round mag!!!

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Old January 15, 2013, 09:46 AM   #23
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Oh... great... Now there will be a ban on Duct Tape. How will I ever make home repairs?
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Old January 15, 2013, 10:17 AM   #24
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I alluded to shotguns in my post in a non specific way. I believe rifles to be superior in many ways for home defense over shotguns but was curious if people would drop rifles when they lose one of their significant advantages (higher capacity).

All things even I would stick to a rifle myself, likely what I use now an AR-10 style with a seven round magazine. Drop the round count to three or less and I would switch to a seven round shotgun. I would definitely stay with something large caliber. Even though I really like the .223 the big advantage there is capacity.

Figure during a home invasion there is seldom one invader.
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Old January 15, 2013, 12:19 PM   #25
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I am leaning towards shotgun or .45-70 lever gun. If you are limited to seven, they might as well be big and powerful. Also if the magazine only holds seven, I'd rather have a tube mag I can keep topped off rather than a detachable mag.

Naturally, the .45-70 would be used where you wanted a lot of penetration/more range.
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