Border Patrol being stripped of weapons?

pnac · November 10, 2014, 12:09 PM

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but the M4 is easy to repair or service, why are these agents being forced to pool their weapons? They are under equipped as it is.

N4T Investigators: Border Patrol stripping agents of their rifles

http://www.kvoa.com/news/n4t-investi...agents-rifles/

veamon · November 10, 2014, 12:53 PM

So more can come in and not worry?

**Tom Servo** · November 10, 2014, 01:21 PM

KVOA appears to be the only news outlet running this story. There may be more to it, and they may have the wrong information.

pnac · November 10, 2014, 04:45 PM

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KVOA appears to be the only news outlet running this story. There may be more to it, and they may have the wrong information.

There appears to be a lot happening on the border that only local news is reporting. Maybe that's the case here.

chris in va · November 12, 2014, 07:12 PM

It is on Fox News as well. Unfortunately they reported the Colt M4 is 'piston operated'...unless they're using something other than the standard model.

mboylan · November 14, 2014, 12:13 PM

FOX News really Isn't known for solid fact checking either. We may have to wait for the real story.

pnac · November 14, 2014, 02:08 PM

Just curious, but WHO, in the so called mainstream media, IS "solid fact checking" these days?

Slopemeno · November 14, 2014, 06:05 PM

translation: The rifle now rides with a Border parol agent on duty, as opposed to sitting in a supervisors trunk at home.

Double Naught Spy · November 14, 2014, 08:16 PM

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FOX News really Isn't known for solid fact checking either. We may have to wait for the real story.

Somebody isn't checking their facts, but FOX noted that the rifles are gas impingement, which is correct.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/12...hem-in-danger/

Destructo6 · November 17, 2014, 02:28 PM

Some 2/3s of the stations' M4s have been deadlined (for a variety of reasons) and ordered returned to ICE for repair/replacement.

With extremely small exceptions, all BP long arms remain at the stations until they are checked out for a shift, then are returned after said shift. None are sitting in trunks at home.

The stations are not allowed to do much of anything with the M4 for repairs. Gas rings, sights, and buffer springs can be replaced, but only by the station armorer. Anything requiring tools must be done by ICE. Think, "liability" and things make a little more sense, but not much more.

November 10, 2014, 12:09 PM	#1
pnac Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2008 Posts: 550	Border Patrol being stripped of weapons? Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but the M4 is easy to repair or service, why are these agents being forced to pool their weapons? They are under equipped as it is. N4T Investigators: Border Patrol stripping agents of their rifles http://www.kvoa.com/news/n4t-investi...agents-rifles/ __________________ In my hour of darkness In my time of need Oh Lord grant me vision Oh Lord grant me speed - Gram Parsons

November 10, 2014, 01:21 PM	#3
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	KVOA appears to be the only news outlet running this story. There may be more to it, and they may have the wrong information. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

November 14, 2014, 02:08 PM	#7
pnac Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2008 Posts: 550	Just curious, but WHO, in the so called mainstream media, IS "solid fact checking" these days? __________________ In my hour of darkness In my time of need Oh Lord grant me vision Oh Lord grant me speed - Gram Parsons

November 17, 2014, 02:28 PM	#10
Destructo6 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 1999 Location: Nogales, AZ USA Posts: 4,000	Some 2/3s of the stations' M4s have been deadlined (for a variety of reasons) and ordered returned to ICE for repair/replacement. With extremely small exceptions, all BP long arms remain at the stations until they are checked out for a shift, then are returned after said shift. None are sitting in trunks at home. The stations are not allowed to do much of anything with the M4 for repairs. Gas rings, sights, and buffer springs can be replaced, but only by the station armorer. Anything requiring tools must be done by ICE. Think, "liability" and things make a little more sense, but not much more. __________________ God gave you a soul. Your parents, a body. Your country, a rifle. Keep all of them clean.

November 10, 2014, 12:53 PM	#2
veamon Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2013 Posts: 186	So more can come in and not worry?

November 12, 2014, 07:12 PM	#5
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	It is on Fox News as well. Unfortunately they reported the Colt M4 is 'piston operated'...unless they're using something other than the standard model.

November 14, 2014, 12:13 PM	#6
mboylan Senior Member Join Date: March 31, 2011 Posts: 120	FOX News really Isn't known for solid fact checking either. We may have to wait for the real story.

November 14, 2014, 06:05 PM	#8
Slopemeno Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2007 Posts: 2,663	translation: The rifle now rides with a Border parol agent on duty, as opposed to sitting in a supervisors trunk at home.