Assault on Precinct 13

Metellus · July 4, 2005, 12:56 PM

The movie Assault on Precinct 13 yet another example that proves that a platoon of guys with the latest tactical gear, night vision, lasers, picatinny rails galore, bdus, assualt vests, supressors, SIG 550 assault rifles & M4s & M16s all in .223 (obviously an underpowered round), HK MP5s in 9mm (another horrible round), etc.. will get beaten down by a desk jocky with a para ord .45ACP and a vintage tommy gun in .45ACP.

Yet another win for the tactical minimalist crowd and the legendary .45ACP (obviously superior to 9mm and .223).

I think I scared myself when I recognized every weapon in the movie. The movie reminded me of all the references to mall ninjas on this board.

TiP99 · July 4, 2005, 01:45 PM

If you kill the "star" it would be a boring movie. It is a movie btw and i would look pass leagues of research in favor of hollywood drama, sheesh.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to reaffirm you belief in the 45acp

Purdue_XD40 · July 4, 2005, 02:02 PM

theboxotruth had some interesting shot comparisions, the 223 hands down

Bullrock · July 4, 2005, 02:38 PM

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will get beaten down by a desk jocky with a para ord .45ACP and a vintage tommy gun in .45ACP.

Hey, I fired one of those for the first time back in the mid-sixties. I was shooting down range, and almost ended up shooting a low flying plane out of the sky...

My later experiences were, jam, jam, jam, jam, jam, plink, jam...

Jack Malloy · July 4, 2005, 08:43 PM

The fanciest gun in the original version was a short barrelled Model 27 magnum.
I refuse to watch remakes.

payne · July 4, 2005, 11:01 PM

TiP99, the post I believe was to be sarcastic. Talkin bout the over blown, unrealistic expectations of holloywood and the way they dipict firearms.

hawken50 · July 5, 2005, 02:10 AM

it had to be sarcastic. he used the words "movie" and "proves" in the same sentance

Metellus · July 5, 2005, 03:08 AM

here's more proof from movies that show's the superior glock design in action. in mr. and mrs. smith at the action packed end the two hereos each show up with dual glock 18s with 33 round magazines. These 4 glock 18s with incredible accuracy and what seems like endless rounds take down a company of highly trained cqb experts armed with m4s. mr. smith mentions "be careful these [glock 18s] tend to jam" but they both blow through thousands of rounds without any problems. Glock Perfection at its finest!

also, it appears the most effcient way of taking down heavily armed assailants is standing back to back in a wide open department store and just hose down 9mm which shot out of a glock (yet another feature that makes glocks so good) will tear through body armor like tissue paper.

I guess I wasted money on my rock river arms ar-15 government since i already have a glock 17 with 33 round capacity.

In all seriousness... a couple scenes in "24" (otherwise a really great show) bothered me.. they show people gripping autos with their left thumb over the back of the auto's hammer (revolver style)... these supposedly highly trained guys would blow their thumb off if they shot a round.

But I did learn from "24" that you can take down guys with assault rifles with a HK USP or a Sig. Jack Bauer does it routinely.

Mikkel · July 5, 2005, 03:22 AM

It all depends on the shooters ability to take the target down and nothing else. Calling the 9mm inferior.... blah :barf:

NSO_w/_SIG · July 5, 2005, 04:29 AM

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It all depends on the shooters ability to take the target down and nothing else. Calling the 9mm inferior.... blah

I think someone's sarcasim detector is down.

Mikkel · July 5, 2005, 09:27 AM

Really dont think so m8.

Limeyfellow · July 5, 2005, 10:50 AM

These movies were so unrealistic anyway. If you want to know real tactical ninja skills that mall security needs, you need to talk with Gecko45.

Glenn E. Meyer · July 5, 2005, 10:54 AM

Watched Dawn of the Dead and I am convinced that if you are a mall ninja with two Glocks, you will get eaten up. Of course, everyone got eaten up.

If you look out the window and see a sea of zombies, might as well just shoot yourself -there's no HOPE!

Heist · July 5, 2005, 12:42 PM

AOP13 = horrible, horrible movie. I wish I had my sixteen plus 1.5 hours back.

poortrader · July 5, 2005, 05:22 PM

Do you remember Sheena?

To refresh you. A tribe of African warriors armed with bow and arrows fought a group of well trained and armed mercenaries. Obviously, the mercenaries were defeated. This shows how the bow and arrow is far superior to any firearm, no matter what caliber....

I LOVE THE MOVIES.

TiP99 · July 6, 2005, 08:25 PM

BO AND LUKE DUKE had bow and arrows. its gotta be the ****,
btw i didnt catch onto the sarcasm. I thought it was a blatant bash on the might 9mm. Sorry, im not to quick

Metellus · July 6, 2005, 08:54 PM

my carry gun is a glock 17 even though I own several very expensive 1911s (my latest favorite is the sa trp operator). i would disagree that the glock is the honda civic of firearms. i think the 1911 is since people customize 1911s all the time just like the civic. i don't know anyone who radically customizes a glock (skateboard grip tape, a slightly longer slide and mag release, and meprolights is considered custom for glocks). glocks are more like cars that everyone has or had is generally reliable but nobody customizes sort of like the ford taurus.

TiP99 · July 7, 2005, 10:18 PM

I would be inclined to somewhat agree with you.
Perhaps the toyota camry of firearms.
When i said the civic of firearms i ment that everyone has one. Drive a mile and count them, just like glocks everyone has one.
I didnt mean the customizing. But you do have a great point.

July 4, 2005, 12:56 PM	#1
Metellus Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Posts: 156	Assault on Precinct 13 The movie Assault on Precinct 13 yet another example that proves that a platoon of guys with the latest tactical gear, night vision, lasers, picatinny rails galore, bdus, assualt vests, supressors, SIG 550 assault rifles & M4s & M16s all in .223 (obviously an underpowered round), HK MP5s in 9mm (another horrible round), etc.. will get beaten down by a desk jocky with a para ord .45ACP and a vintage tommy gun in .45ACP. Yet another win for the tactical minimalist crowd and the legendary .45ACP (obviously superior to 9mm and .223). I think I scared myself when I recognized every weapon in the movie. The movie reminded me of all the references to mall ninjas on this board.

July 4, 2005, 01:45 PM	#2
TiP99 Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2004 Location: Omaha Posts: 291	If you kill the "star" it would be a boring movie. It is a movie btw and i would look pass leagues of research in favor of hollywood drama, sheesh. Whatever you have to tell yourself to reaffirm you belief in the 45acp __________________ IMI Baby Eagle Glock 26 *Si vis pacem - para bellum* If you want peace - prepare for war

July 4, 2005, 02:02 PM	#3
Purdue_XD40 Member Join Date: May 21, 2005 Location: WA/IN Posts: 77	theboxotruth had some interesting shot comparisions, the 223 hands down __________________ Purdue Engineering - Boiler Up! Springfield XD .40 4" black Service Model - 2 hi cap mags Saiga .308 - 16" Saiga 7.62x39 - 20" Ruger P85 - 9mm Winchester 12 Guage Defender - 7+1 - OOO Federal Buck

July 4, 2005, 11:01 PM	#6
payne Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2005 Location: SE US Posts: 519	TiP99, the post I believe was to be sarcastic. Talkin bout the over blown, unrealistic expectations of holloywood and the way they dipict firearms. __________________ If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles. - Sun Tzu

July 5, 2005, 02:10 AM	#7
hawken50 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2005 Location: western new york Posts: 244	it had to be sarcastic. he used the words "movie" and "proves" in the same sentance __________________ "A thunderclap, a tongue of flame, the still abruptly shattered..." Michael Marks

July 4, 2005, 08:43 PM	#5
Jack Malloy Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2005 Posts: 791	The fanciest gun in the original version was a short barrelled Model 27 magnum. I refuse to watch remakes.

July 5, 2005, 03:08 AM	#8
Metellus Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Posts: 156	another.. here's more proof from movies that show's the superior glock design in action. in mr. and mrs. smith at the action packed end the two hereos each show up with dual glock 18s with 33 round magazines. These 4 glock 18s with incredible accuracy and what seems like endless rounds take down a company of highly trained cqb experts armed with m4s. mr. smith mentions "be careful these [glock 18s] tend to jam" but they both blow through thousands of rounds without any problems. Glock Perfection at its finest! also, it appears the most effcient way of taking down heavily armed assailants is standing back to back in a wide open department store and just hose down 9mm which shot out of a glock (yet another feature that makes glocks so good) will tear through body armor like tissue paper. I guess I wasted money on my rock river arms ar-15 government since i already have a glock 17 with 33 round capacity. In all seriousness... a couple scenes in "24" (otherwise a really great show) bothered me.. they show people gripping autos with their left thumb over the back of the auto's hammer (revolver style)... these supposedly highly trained guys would blow their thumb off if they shot a round. But I did learn from "24" that you can take down guys with assault rifles with a HK USP or a Sig. Jack Bauer does it routinely.

July 5, 2005, 03:22 AM	#9
Mikkel Member Join Date: January 6, 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 81	It all depends on the shooters ability to take the target down and nothing else. Calling the 9mm inferior.... blah :barf:

July 5, 2005, 09:27 AM	#11
Mikkel Member Join Date: January 6, 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 81	Really dont think so m8.

July 5, 2005, 10:50 AM	#12
Limeyfellow Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2005 Posts: 1,380	These movies were so unrealistic anyway. If you want to know real tactical ninja skills that mall security needs, you need to talk with Gecko45.

July 5, 2005, 10:54 AM	#13
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Watched Dawn of the Dead and I am convinced that if you are a mall ninja with two Glocks, you will get eaten up. Of course, everyone got eaten up. If you look out the window and see a sea of zombies, might as well just shoot yourself -there's no HOPE! __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

July 5, 2005, 12:42 PM	#14
Heist Junior member Join Date: June 6, 2005 Location: ETN, Again Posts: 760	AOP13 = horrible, horrible movie. I wish I had my sixteen plus 1.5 hours back.

July 5, 2005, 05:22 PM	#15
poortrader Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 489	Do you remember Sheena? To refresh you. A tribe of African warriors armed with bow and arrows fought a group of well trained and armed mercenaries. Obviously, the mercenaries were defeated. This shows how the bow and arrow is far superior to any firearm, no matter what caliber.... I LOVE THE MOVIES. __________________ Stupid People will Always be stupid. NRA Life Member

July 6, 2005, 08:25 PM	#16
TiP99 Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2004 Location: Omaha Posts: 291	BO AND LUKE DUKE had bow and arrows. its gotta be the **, btw i didnt catch onto the sarcasm. I thought it was a blatant bash on the might 9mm. Sorry, im not to quick __________________ IMI Baby Eagle Glock 26 Si vis pacem - para bellum If you want peace - prepare for war**

July 6, 2005, 08:54 PM	#17
Metellus Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Posts: 156	glock my carry gun is a glock 17 even though I own several very expensive 1911s (my latest favorite is the sa trp operator). i would disagree that the glock is the honda civic of firearms. i think the 1911 is since people customize 1911s all the time just like the civic. i don't know anyone who radically customizes a glock (skateboard grip tape, a slightly longer slide and mag release, and meprolights is considered custom for glocks). glocks are more like cars that everyone has or had is generally reliable but nobody customizes sort of like the ford taurus.

July 7, 2005, 10:18 PM	#18
TiP99 Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2004 Location: Omaha Posts: 291	I would be inclined to somewhat agree with you. Perhaps the toyota camry of firearms. When i said the civic of firearms i ment that everyone has one. Drive a mile and count them, just like glocks everyone has one. I didnt mean the customizing. But you do have a great point. __________________ IMI Baby Eagle Glock 26 *Si vis pacem - para bellum* If you want peace - prepare for war