Smith carbine

olmontanaboy · March 15, 2009, 10:01 AM

Anybody have any information on these? Navy Arms sells them I think.

rjsixgun · March 15, 2009, 10:09 AM

Ive had one for 15 years, and use it in comp. What would you like to know about it?

olmontanaboy · March 15, 2009, 10:17 AM

Thanks, Are they still avaible from Navy Arms? Are bullet molds availble for it and does it require special loading cases?

rjsixgun · March 15, 2009, 10:25 AM

Molds can be had from Rapine, Dixie Gun Works, and I've heard that the Lee Real bullet works. I use a Rapine 520-350 mold for mine. You will need Smith cartrages for the gun, Dixie sells them. They can be had in Brass or plastic. I use the plastic ones, they last a live time, they are reloadable and give a better gas seal than the brass. You DONT need a reloading press to load a smith, just put the powder in the cartrage and seat the bullet by hand!!! Ignition is by musket cap.
Guns are made by Pietta and imported by Navy Arms, and are of very good quality, however, not all original parts will fit, But any needed replacement parts are easy to get. So that is a good thing!

olmontanaboy · March 15, 2009, 10:30 AM

Thanks, how do they compare to the repro sharps carbine? are they accurate?

rjsixgun · March 15, 2009, 10:44 AM

I've never had a Sharps, but a buddie of mine did have one and my Smith would out shoot it all day and night. But that could have been the gun or the shooters.
The problem with the Sharps is the cartridge. See there NON! you have to roll your own from paper. This paper is glued or tied to the bottom of a Sharps bullet then loaded with powder and glued closed. It does work but a pain in the ass to make, It will take all day to make 100 rounds. You can use regular "Rolling Paper" or "cigarette paper" to make the tube, but nitraited cartrage paper works best.
The Smith does away with all that paper and glueing and just uses a plastic or brass cartridge, during the Civil War they used a form of plastic to make the cartridge, not brass (incase your wondering)
People have been try'n ever since the civil war to make a better cartridge for the Sharps but nothing seems to work as well as hand rolled paper. (untill the 45-70 that is)

olmontanaboy · March 15, 2009, 02:30 PM

Great, thanks for all the info, There's one for sale around here, it's supposed to have never been fired, the guy wants $600. I think I'll go and check it out. I cant find one on the Navy Arms site so I'm thinkin they might not carry them any more

rjsixgun · March 15, 2009, 02:33 PM

try here

http://n-ssa.org/phpbb/viewforum.php...d5c783540e1f38

March 15, 2009, 10:01 AM	#1
olmontanaboy Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2009 Location: Northeast for now Posts: 266	Smith carbine Anybody have any information on these? Navy Arms sells them I think. __________________ Olmontanaboy No good deed goes unpunished. A loaded gun, a faithful dog,,, consider yourself lucky.

March 15, 2009, 10:17 AM	#3
olmontanaboy Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2009 Location: Northeast for now Posts: 266	Thanks, Are they still avaible from Navy Arms? Are bullet molds availble for it and does it require special loading cases? __________________ Olmontanaboy No good deed goes unpunished. A loaded gun, a faithful dog,,, consider yourself lucky.

March 15, 2009, 10:30 AM	#5
olmontanaboy Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2009 Location: Northeast for now Posts: 266	Thanks, how do they compare to the repro sharps carbine? are they accurate? __________________ Olmontanaboy No good deed goes unpunished. A loaded gun, a faithful dog,,, consider yourself lucky.

March 15, 2009, 02:30 PM	#7
olmontanaboy Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2009 Location: Northeast for now Posts: 266	Great, thanks for all the info, There's one for sale around here, it's supposed to have never been fired, the guy wants $600. I think I'll go and check it out. I cant find one on the Navy Arms site so I'm thinkin they might not carry them any more __________________ Olmontanaboy No good deed goes unpunished. A loaded gun, a faithful dog,,, consider yourself lucky.

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March 15, 2009, 10:09 AM	#2
rjsixgun Member Join Date: October 9, 2008 Posts: 40	Ive had one for 15 years, and use it in comp. What would you like to know about it?

March 15, 2009, 10:25 AM	#4
rjsixgun Member Join Date: October 9, 2008 Posts: 40	Molds can be had from Rapine, Dixie Gun Works, and I've heard that the Lee Real bullet works. I use a Rapine 520-350 mold for mine. You will need Smith cartrages for the gun, Dixie sells them. They can be had in Brass or plastic. I use the plastic ones, they last a live time, they are reloadable and give a better gas seal than the brass. You DONT need a reloading press to load a smith, just put the powder in the cartrage and seat the bullet by hand!!! Ignition is by musket cap. Guns are made by Pietta and imported by Navy Arms, and are of very good quality, however, not all original parts will fit, But any needed replacement parts are easy to get. So that is a good thing!

March 15, 2009, 10:44 AM	#6
rjsixgun Member Join Date: October 9, 2008 Posts: 40	I've never had a Sharps, but a buddie of mine did have one and my Smith would out shoot it all day and night. But that could have been the gun or the shooters. The problem with the Sharps is the cartridge. See there NON! you have to roll your own from paper. This paper is glued or tied to the bottom of a Sharps bullet then loaded with powder and glued closed. It does work but a pain in the ass to make, It will take all day to make 100 rounds. You can use regular "Rolling Paper" or "cigarette paper" to make the tube, but nitraited cartrage paper works best. The Smith does away with all that paper and glueing and just uses a plastic or brass cartridge, during the Civil War they used a form of plastic to make the cartridge, not brass (incase your wondering) People have been try'n ever since the civil war to make a better cartridge for the Sharps but nothing seems to work as well as hand rolled paper. (untill the 45-70 that is)

March 15, 2009, 02:33 PM	#8
rjsixgun Member Join Date: October 9, 2008 Posts: 40	try here http://n-ssa.org/phpbb/viewforum.php...d5c783540e1f38