Looking for my first AR.....

TRDFurgesson · February 18, 2012, 03:57 AM

I would rather pay more for something of quality rather than compromise and save some money. I started out looking at Bushmasters and colts, but now I've moved on to looking at the Knight SR-15. I assume there will quite a difference from BM/Colt to a Knight. My most recent experience was with picking up a Commander 1911. I started out looking at Kimber, Colt, and Springfield but decided on a Dan Wesson V-bob which I couldn't be happier with. I wasn't at all impressed with the new Colt 1911's "rattle" I can only assume Colts AR's are of the same fit. I would consider building an AR but by the time I add up all the parts the Knight has how much money would I really save? What else is out there that would be comparable to a Knight?

Thanks,
Bobby

Sinlessorrow · February 18, 2012, 10:15 AM

The SR-15 is the best AR you can get.

When gene stoner left colt and went to KAC he got together with them and used his years of experience and feedback from the military to make the next evolution of the AR. Thats the SR-15. The SR-15 uses an intermediate length gas system, it has rounded bolt lugs, different coatings and everything. The bolt is guaranteed for 20,000 rounds minimum. A standard bolt will generally go 6,000 rounds.

Now if u want a little cheaper you can get a DAniel defense rifle which is an excellent tricked out standard AR rifle.

TRDFurgesson · February 18, 2012, 01:12 PM

Seems the more I look into it the SR-15 keeps coming out on top. Other than the name what is so special about Wilson's UT-15 @ dirt for $2145. I can get an SR-15 from dirt for $1705... I shot a Wilson 1911 against a TRP at the Scottsdale Gun Club and preferred the TRP. That Wilson 1911 must have been worn out because it performed terribly.

Sinlessorrow · February 18, 2012, 02:01 PM

I still say the sr-15

Alot about wilson is the name. I thinkfor a tactical combat rifle the sr-15 is as good as it gets.

Unlike wilsons entry the sr-15 was designed by gene stoner to be what he felt is the best possible military rifle. The enhanced coatings, enhanced bolt, enhanced extractor, proprietary gas system all make the SR-15 the best ar-15 out there

Chris_B · February 18, 2012, 02:21 PM

TDR, I would never say that you can't get a better pistol or rifle than a Colt.

However, are you sure you understand why the Colt 1911 rattled?

TRDFurgesson · February 18, 2012, 07:13 PM

It might have been a loose trigger but I didn't think to apply pressure to it and try to shake it again. I didn't mean any disrespect colt owners, the best 1911 I have shot to date was a gold cup from the 1970’s with lots of work done to it. IMO standard colt 1911's produced today aren't what they used to be. I really looked hard at Colt but for what I wanted I had to buy a gun and send it off to the custom shop. The Dan Wesson V-bob I purchased had everything I wanted and the parts are fit together very well.

btw it doesn't rattle and it been flawless without malfuction with the 500 rounds I've put through it in the last two weeks.

Chris_B · February 18, 2012, 07:33 PM

I don't feel you meant any disrespect, I'm just curious if you understand the reason it wasn't as 'tight' as you might like. The reason those pistols are rattly is out of the scope of this forum and your question, but you're assuming it's a flaw, and therefore the same manufacturing ill must be present in their rifles. I don't want to argue 1911s in your thread about rifles, I am merely trying to help you avoid a possibly needless misconception. Colt doesn't send money my way when I say good things about them, so as long as you get an AR you like, it's all the same to me

TRDFurgesson · February 20, 2012, 12:13 PM

How about Daniel Defense and LMT? They were brought up when I asked a retailer about what compared to a Knight. He also said something about the mid length gas systems provided a smoother operation.

Coltman 77 · February 20, 2012, 05:09 PM

Here's some info. from Larry Vickers about which AR's are GTG and how to set them up. It may help you OP. Good luck with your search.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mKD-CmX4zQ

Chris_B · February 20, 2012, 05:11 PM

TDR, you know you are required to supply photos when you get your rifle, right?

TRDFurgesson · February 22, 2012, 12:08 AM

How do you guys like Yankee Hill Machine??

madcratebuilder · February 22, 2012, 08:54 AM

You well not find a better AR than what comes out of Noveske Rifle Works.

Noveske works with the premiere AR manufacturers (Vltor, LMT) to produce the best fit and finish available.

Billy Shears · February 22, 2012, 10:02 AM

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I would rather pay more for something of quality rather than compromise and save some money.

Not sure I understand how buying a Colt would ever be seen as a compromise. Colt holds the TDP and makes a damn fine weapon.

thesheepdog · February 22, 2012, 11:34 AM

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How do you guys like Yankee Hill Machine??

They build top notch suppressors and AR's. I am waiting on the BATFE (Belligerent, Arrogant Tyrants, Fulfilling Enslavement) to approve my "device"
They are a smaller company, but I have equipped my suppressor ready AR with a lot of their parts and actually like their rails better than Daniel Defense's.

TRDFurgesson · February 22, 2012, 01:55 PM

No yhm fans huh?

thesheepdog · February 22, 2012, 04:22 PM

See my reply to your thread.

YHM makes great guns.

TRDFurgesson · February 23, 2012, 09:07 AM

I should have refreshed the page before I replied, thanks!!

February 18, 2012, 03:57 AM	#1
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	Looking for my first AR..... I would rather pay more for something of quality rather than compromise and save some money. I started out looking at Bushmasters and colts, but now I've moved on to looking at the Knight SR-15. I assume there will quite a difference from BM/Colt to a Knight. My most recent experience was with picking up a Commander 1911. I started out looking at Kimber, Colt, and Springfield but decided on a Dan Wesson V-bob which I couldn't be happier with. I wasn't at all impressed with the new Colt 1911's "rattle" I can only assume Colts AR's are of the same fit. I would consider building an AR but by the time I add up all the parts the Knight has how much money would I really save? What else is out there that would be comparable to a Knight? Thanks, Bobby __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will.

February 18, 2012, 01:12 PM	#3
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	Seems the more I look into it the SR-15 keeps coming out on top. Other than the name what is so special about Wilson's UT-15 @ dirt for $2145. I can get an SR-15 from dirt for $1705... I shot a Wilson 1911 against a TRP at the Scottsdale Gun Club and preferred the TRP. That Wilson 1911 must have been worn out because it performed terribly. __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will.

February 18, 2012, 07:13 PM	#6
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	It might have been a loose trigger but I didn't think to apply pressure to it and try to shake it again. I didn't mean any disrespect colt owners, the best 1911 I have shot to date was a gold cup from the 1970’s with lots of work done to it. IMO standard colt 1911's produced today aren't what they used to be. I really looked hard at Colt but for what I wanted I had to buy a gun and send it off to the custom shop. The Dan Wesson V-bob I purchased had everything I wanted and the parts are fit together very well. btw it doesn't rattle and it been flawless without malfuction with the 500 rounds I've put through it in the last two weeks. __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will.

February 20, 2012, 12:13 PM	#8
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	How about Daniel Defense and LMT? They were brought up when I asked a retailer about what compared to a Knight. He also said something about the mid length gas systems provided a smoother operation. __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will.

February 20, 2012, 05:09 PM	#9
Coltman 77 Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2009 Location: NC Posts: 1,244	Here's some info. from Larry Vickers about which AR's are GTG and how to set them up. It may help you OP. Good luck with your search. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mKD-CmX4zQ __________________ "A man can be destroyed but not defeated". Ernest Hemingway Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights -- Join the NRA

February 18, 2012, 10:15 AM	#2
Sinlessorrow Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2011 Posts: 147	The SR-15 is the best AR you can get. When gene stoner left colt and went to KAC he got together with them and used his years of experience and feedback from the military to make the next evolution of the AR. Thats the SR-15. The SR-15 uses an intermediate length gas system, it has rounded bolt lugs, different coatings and everything. The bolt is guaranteed for 20,000 rounds minimum. A standard bolt will generally go 6,000 rounds. Now if u want a little cheaper you can get a DAniel defense rifle which is an excellent tricked out standard AR rifle.

February 18, 2012, 02:01 PM	#4
Sinlessorrow Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2011 Posts: 147	I still say the sr-15 Alot about wilson is the name. I thinkfor a tactical combat rifle the sr-15 is as good as it gets. Unlike wilsons entry the sr-15 was designed by gene stoner to be what he felt is the best possible military rifle. The enhanced coatings, enhanced bolt, enhanced extractor, proprietary gas system all make the SR-15 the best ar-15 out there

February 18, 2012, 02:21 PM	#5
Chris_B Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2007 Posts: 3,101	TDR, I would never say that you can't get a better pistol or rifle than a Colt. However, are you sure you understand why the Colt 1911 rattled?

February 18, 2012, 07:33 PM	#7
Chris_B Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2007 Posts: 3,101	I don't feel you meant any disrespect, I'm just curious if you understand the reason it wasn't as 'tight' as you might like. The reason those pistols are rattly is out of the scope of this forum and your question, but you're assuming it's a flaw, and therefore the same manufacturing ill must be present in their rifles. I don't want to argue 1911s in your thread about rifles, I am merely trying to help you avoid a possibly needless misconception. Colt doesn't send money my way when I say good things about them, so as long as you get an AR you like, it's all the same to me

February 20, 2012, 05:11 PM	#10
Chris_B Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2007 Posts: 3,101	TDR, you know you are required to supply photos when you get your rifle, right?

February 22, 2012, 12:08 AM	#11
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	How do you guys like Yankee Hill Machine?? __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will.

February 22, 2012, 08:54 AM	#12
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 4,923	You well not find a better AR than what comes out of Noveske Rifle Works. Noveske works with the premiere AR manufacturers (Vltor, LMT) to produce the best fit and finish available.

February 22, 2012, 01:55 PM	#15
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	No yhm fans huh? __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will.

February 22, 2012, 04:22 PM	#16
thesheepdog Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2010 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 1,996	See my reply to your thread. YHM makes great guns. __________________ Krav Maga/Judo Qualified Rifleman/Marksmanship Instructor/Lic. Medic "There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit" Romans 8:1

February 23, 2012, 09:07 AM	#17
TRDFurgesson Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 115	I should have refreshed the page before I replied, thanks!! __________________ Ohioans for conceal carry A Glock that is not maintained will last, a Glock that is maintained will last a long time, and a Glock that is well maintained will last longer than you will.