Won on the gunbroker

Doc Hoy · July 14, 2013, 08:10 PM

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=352045325

So now I need some pointers on a good black powder load for the revolver.

Tidewater_Kid · July 14, 2013, 10:03 PM

Can't help with the loads, but nice looking SAA at a great price. I'm sure you will have no trouble fixing it!

TK

n5lyc · July 14, 2013, 10:37 PM

Sweet pistol, made in 1974 (the XXX date code on the side)

Since it is a 3 screw, takedown is a breeze, the problem will hopefully be a straight forward fix.

Since it is a .44 mag, oh wait, look who I am talking to, you could probably give me lessons on these..

Sweet gun, if you ever tire of it, keep me in mind...

Bill Akins · July 15, 2013, 01:51 AM

Great catch on that one Doc. What a deal! For the price you paid you practically stole it!

It probably isn't the trigger that's the problem because the ad only said the hammer wouldn't stay back at half cock. So I assume the hammer does stay back at full cock.

Since the same engagement point of the trigger catches both the half cock and full cock notch on the hammer, I would venture to say it isn't the trigger that's the problem. I suspect the half cock notch on the hammer is either worn down, or broken off. Such breakage which could happen if the revolver was at half cock and was dropped directly on the hammer breaking the half cock notch on the hammer.

Or else someone who didn't know what they were doing filed it down thinking to get a more sensitive trigger and accidentally mistook the half cock notch for the full cock notch, and filed it down too much. If any of those are the case, you should be able to fix it by just replacing the hammer.

Or if there is any half cock notch ledge left at all, you might be able to file the hammer so that you re-make the half cock notch deeper so it will work again. I'm sure you'll let us know what the problem is when you get it disassembled and figured out. I also know whatever the problem is, with your skills you'll figure it out and fix it.

Since it is rated at .44 mag pressures and has that long barrel, you can't overload nor hurt it by using full cartridge case charges of BP. I'd suggest loading up your .44 mag brass to full capacity with a BP load, bench rest it and see what kind of groups you get firing several cylinders that way, and then take it down slowly in 5 grain increments shooting several cylinders of each different loading until you get your best/closest grouping, and then stick with that load.

Looking forward to your post when you get it disassembled and evaluate the problem.

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Doc Hoy · July 15, 2013, 02:39 AM

I looked for dies last night and eBay sellers have them for about the same prices as the distributers.

I'd buy them from Titan but they are back ordered.

I'll slug the bore to determine the bullet to use. I'll go with a light bullet because I am not trying to kill anything.

I NEED BRASS!

Doc Hoy · July 15, 2013, 03:30 AM

Without a lot of financial investment.

If it is just that the hammer drops at half cock, a file will fix it.

I can be shooting for about sixty bucks in mold and dies.

Did I say, "I NEED BRASS!"

Anyone out there with .44 Magnum brass that is up for grabs, I am now in the market.

Sheesh! Just what I needed! Another caliber to load!

thebser · July 15, 2013, 06:16 PM

nice gun! unfortunately I don't have my BP revolver anymore! I traded my uncle for my grandfathers gun! he was going to get rid of it and I flipped out and offered my BP revolver as a trade! Worked I now have my grandpaws .22 pistol he carried as his snake gun in texas! Now im looking into a bp army revolver a friend has in .36 cal!

Hawg · July 15, 2013, 06:27 PM

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Now im looking into a bp army revolver a friend has in .36 cal!

Army is .44 navy is .36......Just sayin.

thebser · July 15, 2013, 06:53 PM

all I know is its a steel frame! that's just fine with me lol

44 Dave · July 16, 2013, 03:11 PM

Have some .44 mag. brass, see private message.

Fingers McGee · July 16, 2013, 10:44 PM

Fill case with fffg BP to a level where seated bullet compresses the powder about 1/8 inch and adjust from there.

n5lyc · July 16, 2013, 11:10 PM

Ok that explains why you haven't posted on revolvers lately bser..

If you decide not to get the navy, please point me his way..

Good luck..

thebser · July 17, 2013, 10:27 PM

Im still in love with the black powder guns trust me. I just recently got a 9mm pistol and it bores me to no end. I like it because its a great protection gun but that's it.... Me and my uncle are planning on getting more bp guns to shoot together......possibly getting into some long guns as well....I LOVE BP AND ALWAYS WILL NOW!!!! I just couldn't see my grandfathers pistol going to one of my cousins, besides im the only one in my family who cares about our family history and no telling what one of them would have done with that gun.....

Captainkirk · July 20, 2013, 01:11 AM

Congrats on the score, Doc!

Doc Hoy · July 20, 2013, 04:30 AM

Today or Monday.

**4V50 Gary** · July 20, 2013, 07:43 AM

What a gem. Update us after it arrives.

Doc Hoy · July 21, 2013, 10:47 AM

I have a little .44 magnum brass on the way BUT I STILL NEED MORE BRASS!

July 14, 2013, 08:10 PM	#1
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Won on the gunbroker http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=352045325 So now I need some pointers on a good black powder load for the revolver. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

July 14, 2013, 10:37 PM	#3
n5lyc Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2009 Posts: 180	Sweet pistol, made in 1974 (the XXX date code on the side) Since it is a 3 screw, takedown is a breeze, the problem will hopefully be a straight forward fix. Since it is a .44 mag, oh wait, look who I am talking to, you could probably give me lessons on these.. Sweet gun, if you ever tire of it, keep me in mind... __________________ I make 2 predictions: ON THE DATE WHEN US TROOPS ARE ISSUED AN Energy Pulse Weapon, 1. The US Soldier will have on his person a version of the Colt 1911. 2. He will be aiming the NEW Weapon at someone carrying an AK.

July 15, 2013, 01:51 AM	#4
Bill Akins Senior Member Join Date: August 28, 2007 Location: Hudson, Florida Posts: 1,135	Great catch on that one Doc. What a deal! For the price you paid you practically stole it! It probably isn't the trigger that's the problem because the ad only said the hammer wouldn't stay back at half cock. So I assume the hammer does stay back at full cock. Since the same engagement point of the trigger catches both the half cock and full cock notch on the hammer, I would venture to say it isn't the trigger that's the problem. I suspect the half cock notch on the hammer is either worn down, or broken off. Such breakage which could happen if the revolver was at half cock and was dropped directly on the hammer breaking the half cock notch on the hammer. Or else someone who didn't know what they were doing filed it down thinking to get a more sensitive trigger and accidentally mistook the half cock notch for the full cock notch, and filed it down too much. If any of those are the case, you should be able to fix it by just replacing the hammer. Or if there is any half cock notch ledge left at all, you might be able to file the hammer so that you re-make the half cock notch deeper so it will work again. I'm sure you'll let us know what the problem is when you get it disassembled and figured out. I also know whatever the problem is, with your skills you'll figure it out and fix it. Since it is rated at .44 mag pressures and has that long barrel, you can't overload nor hurt it by using full cartridge case charges of BP. I'd suggest loading up your .44 mag brass to full capacity with a BP load, bench rest it and see what kind of groups you get firing several cylinders that way, and then take it down slowly in 5 grain increments shooting several cylinders of each different loading until you get your best/closest grouping, and then stick with that load. Looking forward to your post when you get it disassembled and evaluate the problem. . __________________ "This is my Remy and this is my Colt. Remy loads easy and topstrap strong, Colt balances better and never feels wrong. A repro black powder revolver gun, they smoke and shoot lead and give me much fun. I can't figure out which one I like better, they're both fine revolvers that fit in my leather". "To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target". Last edited by Bill Akins; July 15, 2013 at 02:03 AM.

July 15, 2013, 02:39 AM	#5
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Thanks for the wink-backs guys I looked for dies last night and eBay sellers have them for about the same prices as the distributers. I'd buy them from Titan but they are back ordered. I'll slug the bore to determine the bullet to use. I'll go with a light bullet because I am not trying to kill anything. I NEED BRASS! __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

July 15, 2013, 03:30 AM	#6
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	I think this thing can be fixed... Without a lot of financial investment. If it is just that the hammer drops at half cock, a file will fix it. I can be shooting for about sixty bucks in mold and dies. Did I say, "I NEED BRASS!" Anyone out there with .44 Magnum brass that is up for grabs, I am now in the market. Sheesh! Just what I needed! Another caliber to load! __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

July 14, 2013, 10:03 PM	#2
Tidewater_Kid Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 925	Can't help with the loads, but nice looking SAA at a great price. I'm sure you will have no trouble fixing it! TK

July 15, 2013, 06:16 PM	#7
thebser Member Join Date: June 18, 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 95	NICE nice gun! unfortunately I don't have my BP revolver anymore! I traded my uncle for my grandfathers gun! he was going to get rid of it and I flipped out and offered my BP revolver as a trade! Worked I now have my grandpaws .22 pistol he carried as his snake gun in texas! Now im looking into a bp army revolver a friend has in .36 cal!

July 15, 2013, 06:53 PM	#9
thebser Member Join Date: June 18, 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 95	woops all I know is its a steel frame! that's just fine with me lol

July 16, 2013, 03:11 PM	#10
44 Dave Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2013 Posts: 584	Have some .44 mag. brass, see private message.

July 16, 2013, 10:44 PM	#11
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	Fill case with fffg BP to a level where seated bullet compresses the powder about 1/8 inch and adjust from there. __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

July 16, 2013, 11:10 PM	#12
n5lyc Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2009 Posts: 180	Ok that explains why you haven't posted on revolvers lately bser.. If you decide not to get the navy, please point me his way.. Good luck.. __________________ I make 2 predictions: ON THE DATE WHEN US TROOPS ARE ISSUED AN Energy Pulse Weapon, 1. The US Soldier will have on his person a version of the Colt 1911. 2. He will be aiming the NEW Weapon at someone carrying an AK.

July 17, 2013, 10:27 PM	#13
thebser Member Join Date: June 18, 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 95	i will get another Im still in love with the black powder guns trust me. I just recently got a 9mm pistol and it bores me to no end. I like it because its a great protection gun but that's it.... Me and my uncle are planning on getting more bp guns to shoot together......possibly getting into some long guns as well....I LOVE BP AND ALWAYS WILL NOW!!!! I just couldn't see my grandfathers pistol going to one of my cousins, besides im the only one in my family who cares about our family history and no telling what one of them would have done with that gun.....

July 20, 2013, 01:11 AM	#14
Captainkirk Senior Member Join Date: September 21, 2012 Posts: 144	Congrats on the score, Doc! __________________ "You gonna pull those pistols, or whistle Dixie?"

July 20, 2013, 04:30 AM	#15
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Thanks CK, Should arrive... Today or Monday. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

July 20, 2013, 07:43 AM	#16
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,838	What a gem. Update us after it arrives. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

July 21, 2013, 10:47 AM	#17
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Guys.... I have a little .44 magnum brass on the way BUT I STILL NEED MORE BRASS! __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.