BRIEF steps of reloading help - Page 3

Brian Pfleuger · December 5, 2011, 11:11 AM

You need the body. The bushings are not thick enough.

Kevin Rohrer · December 5, 2011, 11:11 AM

1. Buy Lyman #49 and any manual that has the bullets you are using to reload.
2. Read the introductory sections dealing w/ reloading basics in said manuals.
3. Following their directions, start reloading.

browninghunter86 · December 21, 2011, 06:15 PM

trying to reload again some different weights and I tried fire formed brass from my rifle and the seating die kept keeping my bullet(got stuck) so tried never fired brass and it didnt do it but then loaded a few rds and it started getting stuck AGAIN!!!! Cleaned the die and made sure everything looked good and I am so lost. Any help would be appreciated

dmazur · December 23, 2011, 03:47 PM

Without pictures, I'm having a hard time visualizing what's going on.

Best guess is that you're describing a stuck case, not a stuck bullet, and that unintentional crimp is causing the neck to bulge below the bullet.

As case lengths generally aren't uniform until you make them uniform, that could explain why some get stuck and others don't.

Did you ever get Lyman's 49? Most of this stuff is explained fairly well in the first few chapters of a reloading manual.

I know I refer to a Sierra Manual 5th edition, and Speer #13 all the time...

browninghunter86 · December 23, 2011, 10:30 PM

Hopefully getting some reloading manual for christmas. The actual bullet was getting stuck up in the seating die. I backed everything out and re-adjusted the die and no more stuck bullets. think it was adjusted to seat too deeply? When I redid it it now works.....? New to this so am trying to understand what happend so I will know for the future

browninghunter86 · December 23, 2011, 10:33 PM

Anyone have advice on how to dial in a final load? Shot 45 and 46 good so should I start at 45 and work up to 46 or start in the middle and work up? Here is link to my groups from the range yesterday

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=416dfdbcd2

dmazur · December 23, 2011, 11:01 PM

Are you keeping records of what you've done so far?

In order to do load development, you can't do it from memory.

Pick a bullet, a powder, and then (using the manuals) work up from the suggested starting load. If you're lucky, you'll get an improvement in group size. If not, you generally pick a different bullet and/or powder and start again.

Read up on pressure signs. Not all rifles will handle maximum loads. It doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the rifle, just perhaps that the chamber / barrel are different than the one the mfgr used for the test data.

If you're serious about load development, you'll eventually get a chronograph.

jimbob86 · December 23, 2011, 11:11 PM

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FOr the Collet Die: Adjust so it kisses the case holder then do not over apply pressure

The instructions that came with my collet sizing die noted that it took 25 lbs of force on the press handle to close the collet on the case......

browninghunter86 · December 24, 2011, 10:05 AM

Yes keeping up with brass used, primer used, powder charge, pictures of groups. Like pictures showed 45 and 46 shout the best out all the loads so far. loaded 40.5,41,42,43,44,45 and 46

browninghunter86 · January 3, 2012, 10:57 AM

if I wanted to try Federal 210 primers how much would I need to back off my powder charge? Using CCI primer now with 45.5gr Varget

December 5, 2011, 11:11 AM	#52
Kevin Rohrer Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2010 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 1,049	Steps To Reload 1. Buy Lyman #49 and any manual that has the bullets you are using to reload. 2. Read the introductory sections dealing w/ reloading basics in said manuals. 3. Following their directions, start reloading. __________________ Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA--Life, ARTCA, and American Legion. Caveat Emptor: Cavery Grips/AmericanGripz/Prestige Grips/Stealth Grips from Clayton, NC. He is a scammer

December 23, 2011, 03:47 PM	#54
dmazur Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2007 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,310	Without pictures, I'm having a hard time visualizing what's going on. Best guess is that you're describing a stuck case, not a stuck bullet, and that unintentional crimp is causing the neck to bulge below the bullet. As case lengths generally aren't uniform until you make them uniform, that could explain why some get stuck and others don't. Did you ever get Lyman's 49? Most of this stuff is explained fairly well in the first few chapters of a reloading manual. I know I refer to a Sierra Manual 5th edition, and Speer #13 all the time... __________________ .30-06 Springfield: 100 yrs + and still going strong

December 23, 2011, 11:01 PM	#57
dmazur Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2007 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,310	Are you keeping records of what you've done so far? In order to do load development, you can't do it from memory. Pick a bullet, a powder, and then (using the manuals) work up from the suggested starting load. If you're lucky, you'll get an improvement in group size. If not, you generally pick a different bullet and/or powder and start again. Read up on pressure signs. Not all rifles will handle maximum loads. It doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the rifle, just perhaps that the chamber / barrel are different than the one the mfgr used for the test data. If you're serious about load development, you'll eventually get a chronograph. __________________ .30-06 Springfield: 100 yrs + and still going strong

December 5, 2011, 11:11 AM	#51
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	You need the body. The bushings are not thick enough.

December 21, 2011, 06:15 PM	#53
browninghunter86 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2011 Posts: 524	trying to reload again some different weights and I tried fire formed brass from my rifle and the seating die kept keeping my bullet(got stuck) so tried never fired brass and it didnt do it but then loaded a few rds and it started getting stuck AGAIN!!!! Cleaned the die and made sure everything looked good and I am so lost. Any help would be appreciated

December 23, 2011, 10:30 PM	#55
browninghunter86 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2011 Posts: 524	Hopefully getting some reloading manual for christmas. The actual bullet was getting stuck up in the seating die. I backed everything out and re-adjusted the die and no more stuck bullets. think it was adjusted to seat too deeply? When I redid it it now works.....? New to this so am trying to understand what happend so I will know for the future

December 23, 2011, 10:33 PM	#56
browninghunter86 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2011 Posts: 524	Anyone have advice on how to dial in a final load? Shot 45 and 46 good so should I start at 45 and work up to 46 or start in the middle and work up? Here is link to my groups from the range yesterday https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=416dfdbcd2

December 24, 2011, 10:05 AM	#59
browninghunter86 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2011 Posts: 524	Yes keeping up with brass used, primer used, powder charge, pictures of groups. Like pictures showed 45 and 46 shout the best out all the loads so far. loaded 40.5,41,42,43,44,45 and 46

January 3, 2012, 10:57 AM	#60
browninghunter86 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2011 Posts: 524	if I wanted to try Federal 210 primers how much would I need to back off my powder charge? Using CCI primer now with 45.5gr Varget