Any ideas?

illuminatus99 · December 13, 2002, 04:14 AM

I've been trying to find info on this shotgun and can't find anything, the markings don't bring up anything on the web so does anyone have an idea of what it is and what it might be worth if anything?

http://www.illuminated-media.com/dave/shotgun

**Mike Irwin** · December 13, 2002, 12:35 PM

What are the markings on it?

They're not really readable due to glare.

illuminatus99 · December 13, 2002, 06:56 PM

here's the markings, this is the same gun I posted about a while back but this time with pictures, the closest I've seen is a WM Parkhurst it looked very similar but had a more modern style stock like you'd see on a rifle, it also didn't have any engraving or gold inlay.

S.P.I. 14353
207 C D
A wierd symbol with the word "choke" under it.
17.4/18.3
3 *s between the barrels

**Mike Irwin** · December 13, 2002, 08:07 PM

OK,

It's continental European, as shown by the choke markings in milimeters.

SPI I'm not familiar with, unfortunately.

It's got the general look of a generic Belgian gun.

The strange symbol is probably the proof mark, and would tell you where it was made, and possibly generally when, but I think manufacture date is probably sometime between 1880 and 1900.

Oh! I can make out a proof mark on the underside of the barrels near the locking block. ELG in a circle under a crown is, IIRC, the mark of Liege, the big proof house in Belgium.

I can also make out "Full Choke" on one of the barrels (monitor at home is a LOT better than the one at work), which to me indicates it was made pretty much for the American trade, or else it would be in French.

I think you've got a pretty common "shop gun" of the period. Tons of inexpensive guns made in Belgium around Liege for export.

illuminatus99 · December 14, 2002, 01:13 AM

so it's probably not worth anything then?

**Mike Irwin** · December 14, 2002, 01:55 AM

Hard to say for sure, but I'd bet really no.

December 13, 2002, 04:14 AM	#1
illuminatus99 Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 353	Any ideas? I've been trying to find info on this shotgun and can't find anything, the markings don't bring up anything on the web so does anyone have an idea of what it is and what it might be worth if anything? http://www.illuminated-media.com/dave/shotgun

December 13, 2002, 12:35 PM	#2
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	What are the markings on it? They're not really readable due to glare. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

December 13, 2002, 08:07 PM	#4
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	OK, It's continental European, as shown by the choke markings in milimeters. SPI I'm not familiar with, unfortunately. It's got the general look of a generic Belgian gun. The strange symbol is probably the proof mark, and would tell you where it was made, and possibly generally when, but I think manufacture date is probably sometime between 1880 and 1900. Oh! I can make out a proof mark on the underside of the barrels near the locking block. ELG in a circle under a crown is, IIRC, the mark of Liege, the big proof house in Belgium. I can also make out "Full Choke" on one of the barrels (monitor at home is a LOT better than the one at work), which to me indicates it was made pretty much for the American trade, or else it would be in French. I think you've got a pretty common "shop gun" of the period. Tons of inexpensive guns made in Belgium around Liege for export. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

December 14, 2002, 01:55 AM	#6
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	Hard to say for sure, but I'd bet really no. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

December 13, 2002, 06:56 PM	#3
illuminatus99 Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 353	here's the markings, this is the same gun I posted about a while back but this time with pictures, the closest I've seen is a WM Parkhurst it looked very similar but had a more modern style stock like you'd see on a rifle, it also didn't have any engraving or gold inlay. S.P.I. 14353 207 C D A wierd symbol with the word "choke" under it. 17.4/18.3 3 *s between the barrels

December 14, 2002, 01:13 AM	#5
illuminatus99 Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 353	so it's probably not worth anything then?