Sig X5 All around redesigned

Uncle Malice · November 13, 2013, 10:18 AM

Just found this comparison of the standard X-Five and the new redesign...

I gotta say... I don't really like the new design.

Urban_Redneck · November 13, 2013, 10:30 AM

- Big goofy logo

+++ undercut grip

YMMV

gyvel · November 13, 2013, 10:39 AM

Other than the rail, what's new?

Robk · November 13, 2013, 12:38 PM

I own an X5E CLassic. I purchased it as sort of a grail gun. But, that is not the only reason. This new X5 is a new modular design. One can start with a base model and add assecories to become a full blown race gun. Very neat in my opinion. Everything bolts on and no need for drilling or modifing. Search under new sig X5 and look for a youtube video. It is directly from the German website and will show the interchangeablility on the accesories. As for the rail, it is used as a mounting point for the accesories,weights scope mount or light if desired.

Dragline45 · November 13, 2013, 12:47 PM

The logo on the side is just corny, looks like something you would see on a nerf gun. I swear, some of the people they put in charge of designing guns should to put it simply, not have their job.

TATER · November 13, 2013, 12:53 PM

Nope, Its not for me. I like the older with clean lines.

Strafer Gott · November 13, 2013, 03:20 PM

I shot one at a Sig demo with a factory rep. I want one. I only wish I needed one. I'm just not that good. I don't care about the logo. It's shiny and it shoots great. Next case.

thedudeabides · November 13, 2013, 03:39 PM

Looks like the faux beavertail has been scalloped out so you can grip it higher and the grip has been undercut below the trigger.

Otherwise the diagonal cocking serrations (front and rear) and the X-FIVER!!!! logo scream pimp gun.

It's an ugly gun, and cleaning up the lines would do Sig a world of good.

Also, I really have a problem paying close to semi-custom 1911 money for a Sig.

Tactical Jackalope · November 13, 2013, 04:06 PM

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Also, I really have a problem paying close to semi-custom 1911 money for a SIG.

I'm the opposite. I would never pay a SIG's cost for a 1911.

IMO & experience, SIG's work and 1911's don't.

Different folks.

I don't mind it enough to say I don't like it. I do prefer the older version though.

saleen322 · November 13, 2013, 04:33 PM

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Also, I really have a problem paying close to semi-custom 1911 money for a Sig.

I understand what you are saying. Some years ago I was looking for a high-end, target 9mm and one of the pistols I looked at was a X5-L1. It appeared well made but I wanted to shoot precision target with the gun where almost all types are 1 hand shooting. They also had a S&W 952 as well and both were about the same price, just over 2K. When you pick them both up, it was no contest and I bought the 952.

While the 952 is a keeper, 9mm is more of a challenge to get target accuracy out of than .45 Auto. I now have some loads that are at or under 2" @ 50 yards with the 952 but even a well made production 1911 can do that if you work with loads carefully and you can get that 1911 even now for like $1200 or less.

The X5 is a fine pistol but I can't see it beating a lot of 1911s that can be had cheaper.

sigp226wgerman · November 13, 2013, 05:48 PM

I prefer real SIGs...

lantern2814 · November 13, 2013, 06:01 PM

If they could drop the front cocking serrations and remove the logo or at least change it to a sleek cursive type of font I could deal with the rail since it does serve a purpose and they would have something I want again.

But hey....I like my gun lines clean. Just like my cars, trucks and motorcycles.

RX-79G · November 13, 2013, 06:23 PM

I thought the X5 was a competition gun. What's the rail for?

ritepath · November 13, 2013, 09:28 PM

I like the new design except for the goofy Xfive logo. The rail??? still up in the air...

Rinspeed · November 13, 2013, 10:55 PM

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Also, I really have a problem paying close to semi-custom 1911 money for a Sig.

Not sure about the All Around but the X-5 L1 will shoot circles "around" quite a few of the semi custom 1911s on the market today. Between myself and a couple friends we own, or have owned, most of the semi custom 1911s. Some of them come with a test target shot at 15 yards. Here is the target that came with my Sig shot at 27 yards.

RX-79G · November 13, 2013, 11:44 PM

You should have seen the test target my P7 came with.

saleen322 · November 14, 2013, 01:37 AM

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...but the X-5 L1 will shoot circles "around" quite a few of the semi custom 1911s on the market today.

Again, I think the Sig X5 is a fine pistol but so are some production .45s. These were shot from my stock Springfield @ 50 yards when I was working on handloads for the pistol. I bought this Springer new for under $700 at the time. The only thing I changed was the trigger spring to get the trigger down to 3.5 lbs, the rest is all stock.

As far as 9mms, here is my 952 Smith @ 50 yards. It too is very accurate.

Taking nothing away from the X5, it is a good pistol, but it is hard to beat 1911s on the target range. That is why there are so many of them out there.

Morgo · November 14, 2013, 02:43 AM

I think having one of both is the only way to be sure

Though I do prefer the classic look of my original X5 Allround

rock185 · November 15, 2013, 05:28 PM

The rail is fine by me, might as well put all that steel there to good use. The new slide profile, etc, not so much. I'll just keep my old one...ymmv

Willie Lowman · November 15, 2013, 05:35 PM

they need to bring back the x5 tactical. There are some of us out here that want a factory threaded barrel and a rail.

BigJimP · November 15, 2013, 07:49 PM

Sig is still making the X-Five L1 model --- this one...

http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDe...26-x-five.aspx

I have one in .40S&W and its really a nice gun...

http://thefiringline.com/forums/atta...6&d=1367446255
My X-Five L1 model is at the top of this photo / the other 2 guns are standard all stainless 226's ( one in 9mm and one in .40S&W)...
---------------
and they're still making the tactical version of the X-Five as well...

look at the Sig site.../ under the 226 ....
http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDe...-tactical.aspx
------------
as well as the X-Five Competition and the X-Five All Around....

trigger643 · November 16, 2013, 06:38 AM

I think it looks alright and it appears Sig put a lot of time and effort into making this gun a player in the entry level race community.

As Robk so intelligently and articulately pointed out, this gun is going after an entry level competition niche and in that roll it should do quite well.

I'm at that age where most of the crap I bought new is now old school. ... Like my first Sig I bought new in 1988.

Jeeze, even my new X5 is now old school and I've owned it less than 6 months. Everything is happening so fast! Will I ever be trendy again? My daughter thinks not.

I've owned dozens of Sigs over the years, but my first Sig and my most recent remain two of my favorites...

rock185 · November 17, 2013, 02:07 PM

trigger, I think your favorites are two of the Best. Still have my X-5 AR, but sure wish I'd hung on to the first all German P226, or two or three I had, from about '86-'87...

Skans · November 19, 2013, 09:38 AM

I don't like the new design. Putting the obnoxious logo aside, the former X-5 has much finer checkering on the front and backstrap of the frame. What's the point of the big blocky rail? I don't like the front bevel or the new slide serrations. I do like the thinner beavertail and the wood grips, but that's about it.

I have a Sig X-Five Competition 9mm. I absolutely love shooting this gun because it makes me look like I'm a much better than I really am. What I mean by this is that I can usually beat anyone in our group shooting something other than a really high end 1911 in what I call the "bottle competition". We line up 9 water bottles for two shooters. The shooter on the left side shoots left-to-right; the shooter on the right side shoots right-to-left. A 3rd party yells "GO". The goal is to be the first one to shoot the 5th bottle, and continue shooting the other guy's bottles...if you are that fast. The winners continue to shoot-off against the winners.

This is supposed to test your accuracy, speed, with a little bit of pressure. But, I also think it tests the quality of the gun being used as well as the shooter.

BigJimP · November 19, 2013, 12:05 PM

It comes down to what you like best....I have a Sig X-Five L1 model ( had it about 10 yrs in .40S&W and its a very nice gun )...and while its probably in the top 5 guns in my safe....

my #1 and #2 guns in my safe are both Wilson Combat 1911's in 5" - one in 9mm and one in .45 acp....
#3 is probably a model 27-2 S&W revolver in .357 mag - a nickel 4"gun ...and #4 is probably my Freedom Arms single action 4 3/4", octagonal barrel, in .357 mag premier grade 5 shot....and then the X-Five....

but all of us will look at it differently - and that's ok too...

November 13, 2013, 03:39 PM	#8
thedudeabides Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2012 Posts: 1,031	Looks like the faux beavertail has been scalloped out so you can grip it higher and the grip has been undercut below the trigger. Otherwise the diagonal cocking serrations (front and rear) and the X-FIVER!!!! logo scream pimp gun. It's an ugly gun, and cleaning up the lines would do Sig a world of good. Also, I really have a problem paying close to semi-custom 1911 money for a Sig. __________________ OK, so not all plastic guns are bad

November 13, 2013, 09:28 PM	#14
ritepath Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,419	I like the new design except for the goofy Xfive logo. The rail??? still up in the air... __________________ There's only one...

November 15, 2013, 05:28 PM	#19
rock185 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2001 Location: Out West in Rim Country Posts: 1,093	The rail is fine by me, might as well put all that steel there to good use. The new slide profile, etc, not so much. I'll just keep my old one...ymmv __________________ COTEP 640, NRA Life

November 15, 2013, 05:35 PM	#20
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	they need to bring back the x5 tactical. There are some of us out here that want a factory threaded barrel and a rail. __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

November 17, 2013, 02:07 PM	#23
rock185 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2001 Location: Out West in Rim Country Posts: 1,093	trigger, I think your favorites are two of the Best. Still have my X-5 AR, but sure wish I'd hung on to the first all German P226, or two or three I had, from about '86-'87... __________________ COTEP 640, NRA Life

November 13, 2013, 10:18 AM	#1
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	Sig X5 All around redesigned Just found this comparison of the standard X-Five and the new redesign... I gotta say... I don't really like the new design. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

November 13, 2013, 10:30 AM	#2
Urban_Redneck Member Join Date: June 23, 2013 Posts: 73	- Big goofy logo +++ undercut grip YMMV

November 13, 2013, 10:39 AM	#3
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	Other than the rail, what's new?

November 13, 2013, 12:38 PM	#4
Robk Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2011 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 324	I own an X5E CLassic. I purchased it as sort of a grail gun. But, that is not the only reason. This new X5 is a new modular design. One can start with a base model and add assecories to become a full blown race gun. Very neat in my opinion. Everything bolts on and no need for drilling or modifing. Search under new sig X5 and look for a youtube video. It is directly from the German website and will show the interchangeablility on the accesories. As for the rail, it is used as a mounting point for the accesories,weights scope mount or light if desired.

November 13, 2013, 12:47 PM	#5
Dragline45 Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2010 Posts: 3,513	The logo on the side is just corny, looks like something you would see on a nerf gun. I swear, some of the people they put in charge of designing guns should to put it simply, not have their job.

November 13, 2013, 12:53 PM	#6
TATER Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 963	Nope, Its not for me. I like the older with clean lines.

November 13, 2013, 03:20 PM	#7
Strafer Gott Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2011 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,315	I shot one at a Sig demo with a factory rep. I want one. I only wish I needed one. I'm just not that good. I don't care about the logo. It's shiny and it shoots great. Next case.

November 13, 2013, 05:48 PM	#11
sigp226wgerman Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2013 Location: NC Posts: 159	I prefer real SIGs...

November 13, 2013, 06:01 PM	#12
lantern2814 Member Join Date: April 26, 2013 Posts: 42	If they could drop the front cocking serrations and remove the logo or at least change it to a sleek cursive type of font I could deal with the rail since it does serve a purpose and they would have something I want again. But hey....I like my gun lines clean. Just like my cars, trucks and motorcycles.

November 13, 2013, 06:23 PM	#13
RX-79G Junior member Join Date: October 27, 2013 Posts: 1,139	I thought the X5 was a competition gun. What's the rail for?

November 13, 2013, 11:44 PM	#16
RX-79G Junior member Join Date: October 27, 2013 Posts: 1,139	You should have seen the test target my P7 came with.

November 14, 2013, 02:43 AM	#18
Morgo Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 471	I think having one of both is the only way to be sure Though I do prefer the classic look of my original X5 Allround

November 15, 2013, 07:49 PM	#21
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	Sig is still making the X-Five L1 model --- this one... http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDe...26-x-five.aspx I have one in .40S&W and its really a nice gun... http://thefiringline.com/forums/atta...6&d=1367446255 My X-Five L1 model is at the top of this photo / the other 2 guns are standard all stainless 226's ( one in 9mm and one in .40S&W)... --------------- and they're still making the tactical version of the X-Five as well... look at the Sig site.../ under the 226 .... http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDe...-tactical.aspx ------------ as well as the X-Five Competition and the X-Five All Around....

November 16, 2013, 06:38 AM	#22
trigger643 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2011 Posts: 322	I think it looks alright and it appears Sig put a lot of time and effort into making this gun a player in the entry level race community. As Robk so intelligently and articulately pointed out, this gun is going after an entry level competition niche and in that roll it should do quite well. I'm at that age where most of the crap I bought new is now old school. ... Like my first Sig I bought new in 1988. Jeeze, even my new X5 is now old school and I've owned it less than 6 months. Everything is happening so fast! Will I ever be trendy again? My daughter thinks not. I've owned dozens of Sigs over the years, but my first Sig and my most recent remain two of my favorites...

November 19, 2013, 09:38 AM	#24
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I don't like the new design. Putting the obnoxious logo aside, the former X-5 has much finer checkering on the front and backstrap of the frame. What's the point of the big blocky rail? I don't like the front bevel or the new slide serrations. I do like the thinner beavertail and the wood grips, but that's about it. I have a Sig X-Five Competition 9mm. I absolutely love shooting this gun because it makes me look like I'm a much better than I really am. What I mean by this is that I can usually beat anyone in our group shooting something other than a really high end 1911 in what I call the "bottle competition". We line up 9 water bottles for two shooters. The shooter on the left side shoots left-to-right; the shooter on the right side shoots right-to-left. A 3rd party yells "GO". The goal is to be the first one to shoot the 5th bottle, and continue shooting the other guy's bottles...if you are that fast. The winners continue to shoot-off against the winners. This is supposed to test your accuracy, speed, with a little bit of pressure. But, I also think it tests the quality of the gun being used as well as the shooter.

November 19, 2013, 12:05 PM	#25
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	It comes down to what you like best....I have a Sig X-Five L1 model ( had it about 10 yrs in .40S&W and its a very nice gun )...and while its probably in the top 5 guns in my safe.... my #1 and #2 guns in my safe are both Wilson Combat 1911's in 5" - one in 9mm and one in .45 acp.... #3 is probably a model 27-2 S&W revolver in .357 mag - a nickel 4"gun ...and #4 is probably my Freedom Arms single action 4 3/4", octagonal barrel, in .357 mag premier grade 5 shot....and then the X-Five.... but all of us will look at it differently - and that's ok too...