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January 30, 2012, 05:09 PM | #1 |
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Sabre Red Crossfire (pepper spray)
Have you sprayed or been sprayed with Sabre Red Crossfire?
(FYI: Sabre Red Crossfire is 3rd generation technology, and their web says "Crossfire can deploy continuously from any position or angle to increase target acquisition. It's active ingredient is 10% OC. SHU's is 2,000,000. Capsaicinoids is 1.33%.") |
February 2, 2012, 10:14 PM | #2 |
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No, but remember this is a marketed product just like everything else, from Britney Spears to golf balls. 2 million SHUs is nothing. If you want the top shelf product, go to Fox Labs cone mist. 5.3 million SHUs. There's probably not a human being on the planet that can withstand a facefull of it.
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February 4, 2012, 03:53 PM | #4 |
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I've done a lot of research on pepper spray since I posted this topic. Based solely on that, my opinion is that Fox will work better or as well as anything out there.
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February 6, 2012, 01:06 PM | #5 |
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Fox labs is better than sabre red. 2 M SHU is not that hot for good pepper spray.
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February 6, 2012, 05:49 PM | #6 |
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As a Sabre instructor, and someone who has been sprayed a dozen times in LE, I'll take Sabre 8 days a week....
Here's some interesting reading from Sabre about SHU's...the company VP David Nance is a chemist. I've spoken to him personally about this, and his explanation why Sabre is better is rock solid, imho. http://www.sabrered.com/servlet/the-template/faq/Page
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It seems like Sabre and Fox compete for the #1 slot on the market. I have NEVER seen ANYBODY press home an attack, real or pretend, after a face full of Fox. Check these YouTube videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kAkHPuBM8U (a couple of bouncers) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NHQG_Qyvp8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcqWdgZHik0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYY4A9tAZLQ Here's one using Sabre... it's obviously hot stuff, but you can see the difference. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvnJaS2xreI Last edited by Ruark; February 8, 2012 at 02:19 PM. |
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February 8, 2012, 02:25 PM | #8 |
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Is OC more effective than the chemical irritants like CS and CN, or is OC just popular because CS isn't legal everywhere?
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February 13, 2012, 07:42 PM | #9 |
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I graduated the police academy 1 year ago. They sprayed me with O.C. and I remember that it just really ****** me off. Not very painful either, it just really ****** me off.
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February 16, 2012, 02:23 AM | #10 |
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I've been sprayed with both Fox and Sabre. Neither had any effect on my eyes or mucus membranes. They were full double-Z facial sprays, not the "Let me squirt this on a q-tip and rub it on your skin under your eye" BS method that some people try to claim is the same as being sprayed...
After about 3-4 minutes, my skin was burning, but I had already subdued the "attacker" (training, mind you) so it was a moot point. 10 minutes in a hot shower relieved this to a certain point. About an hour or two after being sprayed, I suffered no effects aside from mild skin irritation. Moral of the story; don't count on any spray to take someone out of the fight.
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