Full Lug Smiths....... - Page 2

**Tom Servo** · October 6, 2012, 11:05 PM

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I seem to remember reading that it is impossible to hit anything firing double action. Maybe not true?

I think MrBorland's targets handily put that to rest (and do they!). Most of Ed McGivern's incredible feats were done in double action.

Once I got the hang of double action, I never bothered with single action, and I'm actually more consistent. I think it comes from the fact that I don't have to shift my grip between shots.

MrBorland: your thumb placement is unusual for a wheelgun. Does the cylinder latch ever catch your strong thumb under recoil?

Oh, and full-lug Smiths? That's a fad.

MrBorland · October 7, 2012, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

MrBorland: your thumb placement is unusual for a wheelgun. Does the cylinder latch ever catch your strong thumb under recoil?

Thanks, Tom. My thumbs are actually off the gun, so catching the cylinder latch isn't a problem. Thumbs do little for one's grip, so they're an unnecessary contact point you'd otherwise have to apply consistently for best accuracy.

And just to stay on topic, here are my full lug match 686s:

pete2 · October 7, 2012, 10:26 AM

I have a 586, 686 and a 625. All 4" guns, love them for shooting, the lug adds weight to them that is great for D/A shooting. I also have a 6" 17, it weighs a ton. Great for shooting with both hands but I gotta do some weight training before I can use it with one hand. I wish I had a 4" 17, guess it's on the list.

Note: for a holster gun I'll take a 15 or a 19.

Black_Sheep · October 7, 2012, 10:25 PM

I have just one, a 5" Model 625-2.

johnbt · October 7, 2012, 10:54 PM

"I wish I had a 4" 17"

Here's my 17-6.

And a 647.

I really don't notice much difference in the balance between the 647 (with the MicroDot) and the 17-4 I have with an 8.375" short lugged barrel (with a 2x Burris.)

orionengnr · October 9, 2012, 09:01 PM

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I'd have to confess to be a besmircher.

Yep, another besmircher here.

I had a 4" 586 for a while. I really prefer blued revolvers, and it made me look good when shooting it.

But it always felt strange (nose-heavy) and I never really bonded with it, so it is long gone. My "inferior" M66 is still with me, and I am quite happy with that.

pete2 · October 10, 2012, 05:14 PM

Model 66 isn't inferior. It's just different. I like my L frame guns and I also like my Model 15 and 19. The nose heavy guns work better for me in rapid fire.

Jayhawkhuntclub · October 11, 2012, 12:56 PM

Bob:

I LOVE the lug!

I am a lug-lover and proud of it.

DFrame · October 11, 2012, 05:27 PM

I LOVE that 625 3 inch. Would LOVE to get my hands on one.

Malamute · October 11, 2012, 09:47 PM

Did Smith ever make a blued 357 L frame without the lug?

P-990 · October 13, 2012, 08:34 PM

I confess, I'm not a big fan of the aesthetics of the full-lugs. (I believe I'm on record around here saying I wouldn't take a Colt Python unless given to me by a favored relative.) But geez, if it doesn't just work for shooting. My 4" L-frame 586 gives me two things: a grip small enough for my hands AND a revolver with enough weight to tame shooting .357s. Dressed up with some Ahrend's smooth combats in maple, it looks pretty sharp too....

I would love an N-frame .357 and almost bought a 28-2 at the LGS last month, but decided to buy a new bicycle instead. And an N-frame is really a bit big for me to manage quickly.

rodfac · October 14, 2012, 07:26 AM

P-990, Geez, what a beautiful set of grips on that Smith of yours. Seems, of late, I've become a 'pale grip' lover. They set off the bluing perfectly. Good choice. Best Regards, Rod

Scrumbag · October 14, 2012, 08:49 AM

I must admit I think it depends on the frame size and barrel length.

Now, could someone tell me why S&W aren't making the 386 .357 with only a shrouded ejector?

The thing's like 1/2 the weight of a 686. What's that little extra bit of Scandium which weights 3/4 of a fly's fart going to do? If going lightweight, why not all out light weight?

(Sorry, rant over).

ATB,

Scrummy

Ozzieman · October 14, 2012, 09:43 AM

Under the "Pinned Barrel...." thread, a couple of misguided souls attempted to besmirch the beauty of such a set up

Well Bob, all I can say to those that besmirched such beauty must find Lady Gaga lovely along with Glocks, where as you and I probably prefer loveliness such as Marilyn Monroe or Raquel Welch and N frames Smiths.
The photo attached shows the smooth curves of loveliness and the strong lean lines of a great looker.
Picked her up yesterday, she’s 24 and very nice to hold.

Malamute · October 14, 2012, 10:22 AM

I quite agree on the fine looking lines of a 24 or 27. I think thats about as good as it gets in an N. The tapered barrels and shrouded extractor rod is the finest looking Smiths ever made to me. The finely checkered top of the 27's frame and barrel is particularly fine looking.

Funny, they dont have a lugged barrel though.

DFrame · October 14, 2012, 11:40 AM

Gonna commit blasphemy here and say I think the N frame is far too big for 36 calibre. Sold my 27 years ago (just too heavy for the bore) and never looked back. I think the K or L is a far better choice for medium bores. I of course love the N frames in calibers that start with 4. As for full lugs? I like them, especially on my 3 inch model 29

Bob Wright · October 14, 2012, 01:01 PM

Dframe wrote:

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Gonna commit blasphemy here and say I think the N frame is far too big for 36 calibre. Sold my 27 years ago (just too heavy for the bore) and never looked back. I think the K or L is a far better choice for medium bores. I of course love the N frames in calibers that start with 4. As for full lugs? I like them, especially on my 3 inch model 29

Thank you, thank you, thank you! How many I've said that, I don't know. Finally someone here who agrees with something I've said!

Bob Wright

Ozzieman · October 14, 2012, 04:31 PM

I like them, especially on my 3 inch model 29
YEP,, 629 also.

540mope · October 14, 2012, 07:05 PM

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I LOVE that 625 3 inch. Would LOVE to get my hands on one.

Took a couple of years to find one at a 'reasonable' price, but they are out there. Perfect revolver... 3" 45 ACP...my personal favorite.

October 7, 2012, 10:25 PM	#29
Black_Sheep Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 198	I have just one, a 5" Model 625-2. __________________ "shall not be infringed"

October 11, 2012, 05:27 PM	#34
DFrame Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2008 Location: central Illinois Posts: 451	I LOVE that 625 3 inch. Would LOVE to get my hands on one. __________________ Mark Lane to William Buckley: "Have you ever referred to Jessee Jackson as an ignoramus?" Buckley: "If I didn't, I should have"

October 11, 2012, 09:47 PM	#35
Malamute Senior Member Join Date: June 6, 2004 Location: Rocky Mts Posts: 859	Did Smith ever make a blued 357 L frame without the lug? __________________ "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." -Theodore Roosevelt-

October 13, 2012, 08:34 PM	#36
P-990 Senior Member Join Date: May 2, 2002 Location: Only1/2WayThere Posts: 1,316	I confess, I'm not a big fan of the aesthetics of the full-lugs. (I believe I'm on record around here saying I wouldn't take a Colt Python unless given to me by a favored relative.) But geez, if it doesn't just work for shooting. My 4" L-frame 586 gives me two things: a grip small enough for my hands AND a revolver with enough weight to tame shooting .357s. Dressed up with some Ahrend's smooth combats in maple, it looks pretty sharp too.... I would love an N-frame .357 and almost bought a 28-2 at the LGS last month, but decided to buy a new bicycle instead. And an N-frame is really a bit big for me to manage quickly. __________________ NRA Master, Highpower Rifle, Across-the-Course NRA Expert, Highpower Rifle, Mid-Range Prone

October 14, 2012, 07:26 AM	#37
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,624	P-990, Geez, what a beautiful set of grips on that Smith of yours. Seems, of late, I've become a 'pale grip' lover. They set off the bluing perfectly. Good choice. Best Regards, Rod __________________ Cherish our flag, honor it, defend it in word and deed, or get the hell out. Our Bill of Rights has been paid for by heros in uniform and shall not be diluted by misguided governmental social experiments. We owe this to our children, anything less is cowardice. USAF FAC, 5th Spl Forces, Vietnam Vet '69-'73.

October 7, 2012, 10:26 AM	#28
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,566	I have a 586, 686 and a 625. All 4" guns, love them for shooting, the lug adds weight to them that is great for D/A shooting. I also have a 6" 17, it weighs a ton. Great for shooting with both hands but I gotta do some weight training before I can use it with one hand. I wish I had a 4" 17, guess it's on the list. Note: for a holster gun I'll take a 15 or a 19.

October 7, 2012, 10:54 PM	#30
johnbt Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Richmond, Virginia USA Posts: 6,004	"I wish I had a 4" 17" Here's my 17-6. And a 647. I really don't notice much difference in the balance between the 647 (with the MicroDot) and the 17-4 I have with an 8.375" short lugged barrel (with a 2x Burris.)

October 10, 2012, 05:14 PM	#32
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,566	Model 66 isn't inferior. It's just different. I like my L frame guns and I also like my Model 15 and 19. The nose heavy guns work better for me in rapid fire.

October 11, 2012, 12:56 PM	#33
Jayhawkhuntclub Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2007 Posts: 581	Bob: I LOVE the lug! I am a lug-lover and proud of it.

October 14, 2012, 08:49 AM	#38
Scrumbag Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2012 Posts: 173	I must admit I think it depends on the frame size and barrel length. Now, could someone tell me why S&W aren't making the 386 .357 with only a shrouded ejector? The thing's like 1/2 the weight of a 686. What's that little extra bit of Scandium which weights 3/4 of a fly's fart going to do? If going lightweight, why not all out light weight? (Sorry, rant over). ATB, Scrummy

October 14, 2012, 09:43 AM	#39
Ozzieman Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 6,117	Under the "Pinned Barrel...." thread, a couple of misguided souls attempted to besmirch the beauty of such a set up Well Bob, all I can say to those that besmirched such beauty must find Lady Gaga lovely along with Glocks, where as you and I probably prefer loveliness such as Marilyn Monroe or Raquel Welch and N frames Smiths. The photo attached shows the smooth curves of loveliness and the strong lean lines of a great looker. Picked her up yesterday, she’s 24 and very nice to hold. __________________ It was a sad day when I discovered my universal remote control did not in fact control the universe. Did you hear about the latest study.....5 out of 6 liberals say that Russian Roulette is safe. Last edited by Ozzieman; October 1, 2016 at 05:20 PM.

October 14, 2012, 10:22 AM	#40
Malamute Senior Member Join Date: June 6, 2004 Location: Rocky Mts Posts: 859	I quite agree on the fine looking lines of a 24 or 27. I think thats about as good as it gets in an N. The tapered barrels and shrouded extractor rod is the finest looking Smiths ever made to me. The finely checkered top of the 27's frame and barrel is particularly fine looking. Funny, they dont have a lugged barrel though. __________________ "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." -Theodore Roosevelt- Last edited by Malamute; October 14, 2012 at 10:35 AM.

October 14, 2012, 11:40 AM	#41
DFrame Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2008 Location: central Illinois Posts: 451	Gonna commit blasphemy here and say I think the N frame is far too big for 36 calibre. Sold my 27 years ago (just too heavy for the bore) and never looked back. I think the K or L is a far better choice for medium bores. I of course love the N frames in calibers that start with 4. As for full lugs? I like them, especially on my 3 inch model 29 __________________ Mark Lane to William Buckley: "Have you ever referred to Jessee Jackson as an ignoramus?" Buckley: "If I didn't, I should have"

October 14, 2012, 04:31 PM	#43
Ozzieman Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 6,117	I like them, especially on my 3 inch model 29 YEP,, 629 also. __________________ It was a sad day when I discovered my universal remote control did not in fact control the universe. Did you hear about the latest study.....5 out of 6 liberals say that Russian Roulette is safe. Last edited by Ozzieman; October 1, 2016 at 05:20 PM.