Are slugs OK in modified-choke barrel

cornered rat · March 27, 1999, 06:57 PM

I have a Remington 11 (Auto 5 clone) in 12ga that I use for practice. Someday it may be pressed into serious use, though it is far too long for that (and I do not know how reliable a recoil-operated design could be).

For now I shoot #7 and #4 shot in it. I just bought a box of 10 00 buckshot, to see how it patterns with them. What I am curious about, is modified choke barrel OK for use with rifled or sabot slugs? Will it damage the choke? What kind of accuracy can I expect at 25m? 50m? 100m?

The barrel in 26" right now. The place where I bought it could cut it down to 18,5" to make it clear the top shelf of my safe easier and to handle better. I could leave it cylinder choke. Would it still cycle with the shorter barrel? Would the recoil increase dramatically or only slightly?

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Cornered "but cheery" Rat
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snoman · March 27, 1999, 10:59 PM

C.R., It should be fine in a Mod. choke,Brenneke slugs have "ribs" that are designed to colapse in a tighter choke..

---snoman---

Ray VanderLinden · March 28, 1999, 09:32 AM

CR,
Use only Foster (rifled) slugs in that shotgun. Sabot slugs are made for rifled barrels and no choke, even with an open choke sabot slug Accuracy would be poor to nonexistant.
I wouldn't cut the barrel down, I think someone made a 22 inch open choke barrel for the M-11 but I can't remember who.

Safety note: Never push the barrel back on that shotgun (Auto 5, M-11, or Clones). It can fire a shell in the chamber from pushing the barrel(toward the breach) back too hard. Not a Defect just a function of that design.

cornered rat · March 28, 1999, 01:00 PM

I know that steel shot is not good for the barrel on mod.11 -- would "rifled" slugs cause too much wear?

As for cutting the barrel down...I wanted it to be easier to handle. WOuld that impair reliability?

My gun, BTW, was made in 1924. Serial # 480xxx. Remington people said "fire slugs IF it is in good repair:.

[This message has been edited by cornered rat (edited March 29, 1999).]

olegunftr · March 29, 1999, 10:10 PM

Sir rat
again, foster type "rifled" slugs are fine. Stay away from the breneke type in that they operate at a pressure above that recommended by SAAMI, especially in an older gun. dont abuse the ole baby.

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Vinny

March 27, 1999, 06:57 PM	#1
cornered rat Junior member Join Date: November 30, 1998 Location: Minnesota Posts: 920	I have a Remington 11 (Auto 5 clone) in 12ga that I use for practice. Someday it may be pressed into serious use, though it is far too long for that (and I do not know how reliable a recoil-operated design could be). For now I shoot #7 and #4 shot in it. I just bought a box of 10 00 buckshot, to see how it patterns with them. What I am curious about, is modified choke barrel OK for use with rifled or sabot slugs? Will it damage the choke? What kind of accuracy can I expect at 25m? 50m? 100m? The barrel in 26" right now. The place where I bought it could cut it down to 18,5" to make it clear the top shelf of my safe easier and to handle better. I could leave it cylinder choke. Would it still cycle with the shorter barrel? Would the recoil increase dramatically or only slightly? ------------------ Cornered "but cheery" Rat http://ddb.com/RKBA Updated March 20

March 27, 1999, 10:59 PM	#2
snoman Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 1998 Location: Sauk Rapids, Mn, USA Posts: 127	C.R., It should be fine in a Mod. choke,Brenneke slugs have "ribs" that are designed to colapse in a tighter choke.. ---snoman---

March 28, 1999, 09:32 AM	#3
Ray VanderLinden Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 1999 Location: Southern Iowa Posts: 211	CR, Use only Foster (rifled) slugs in that shotgun. Sabot slugs are made for rifled barrels and no choke, even with an open choke sabot slug Accuracy would be poor to nonexistant. I wouldn't cut the barrel down, I think someone made a 22 inch open choke barrel for the M-11 but I can't remember who. Safety note: Never push the barrel back on that shotgun (Auto 5, M-11, or Clones). It can fire a shell in the chamber from pushing the barrel(toward the breach) back too hard. Not a Defect just a function of that design.

March 28, 1999, 01:00 PM	#4
cornered rat Junior member Join Date: November 30, 1998 Location: Minnesota Posts: 920	I know that steel shot is not good for the barrel on mod.11 -- would "rifled" slugs cause too much wear? As for cutting the barrel down...I wanted it to be easier to handle. WOuld that impair reliability? My gun, BTW, was made in 1924. Serial # 480xxx. Remington people said "fire slugs IF it is in good repair:. [This message has been edited by cornered rat (edited March 29, 1999).]

March 29, 1999, 10:10 PM	#5
olegunftr Member Join Date: December 30, 1998 Location: marietta, ga, usa Posts: 71	Sir rat again, foster type "rifled" slugs are fine. Stay away from the breneke type in that they operate at a pressure above that recommended by SAAMI, especially in an older gun. dont abuse the ole baby. ------------------ Vinny