The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Tactics and Training

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old January 26, 2009, 09:33 AM   #76
Alert
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 8, 2007
Location: Mobile, Alabama
Posts: 203
Quote:
You gotta get a btter "license".......
it's the only one Alabama issues to non law enforcement personnel, so it'll have to suffice
__________________
"One man with courage makes a majority" Andrew Jackson
Alert is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 10:21 AM   #77
Croz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 9, 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 307
Quote:
"My wife and I took my mom out to eat last night.
Here's what I had with me:"

Ear plugs??? Hm, I suppose if I were a mugger and my victim calmly inserted ear plugs, I might decide to rob someone else
If I took my wife and mom out to dinner, I'd have earplugs too. But they'd be for the dinner, not necessarily the walk in the dark back to the car...
Croz is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 11:09 AM   #78
kiov
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 14, 2004
Posts: 283
try carrying two and see how it feels. my guess is that after carrying two for awhile, you will go back to one. i also think that, in general, an extra mag is a better choice than an extra gun.

as many have said, it all depends on your situation. for me, one very trusted gun makes me feel well protected. i already get enough grief for carrying one; if i started carrying two most non-TFL folks would consider me (more) paranoid, and for my low risk environment, they would likely be right.
kiov is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 11:22 AM   #79
Alert
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 8, 2007
Location: Mobile, Alabama
Posts: 203
Quote:
You gotta get a btter "license".......
you have license in quotes like you may have thought I misspelled the word (the irony is your spelling of better), in which case you may want to look it up
__________________
"One man with courage makes a majority" Andrew Jackson
Alert is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 11:25 AM   #80
overkill556x45
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 19, 2007
Location: Iowa
Posts: 624
I'm looking at a J-Frame to stick in my weak side pocket. My current plan for CCW (STILL waiting for sheriff to hold the class-4 months waiting now.... ) is my M&P9C IWB at 4 o'clock, extra mag in left rear pants pocket, J-frame in left jacket pocket (either interior or exterior left pocket). If I run through 24 rounds of 9mm, and 5 rounds of .38spl+p, either I won't need any more or more won't do me any good.

I like the idea of having two guns in two different locations. Plus I really want a J-frame and need to convince my wife that I really need it.
overkill556x45 is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 11:36 AM   #81
Shadi Khalil
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 23, 2006
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 5,210
I guess I think its overkill but I am not in your situation. I carry an extra mag and I think thats over kill and sometimes quite uncomfortable.
Shadi Khalil is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 12:30 PM   #82
Japle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 12, 2004
Location: Viera, Florida
Posts: 1,340
OK, for those who wonder why I carry the earplugs, it's not for the shootout.
I lost a lot of hearing in the service. When I get into noisy environments, like the damn loud trailers they show in the movies, I remove my hearing aids and use the plugs. Same goes for concerts.
Japle is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 02:28 PM   #83
Glenn E. Meyer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 17, 2000
Posts: 20,064
It's not overkill. It's for when things really go bad, that small percentage of the time. Since it is a small percentage of the time, it usually isn't needed but when it is - then it's good to have.

Personally, when someone carries on that it is nutty to have this level of extra equipment, I really don't pay attention to that.

I've seen stuff break or get lost. If circumstance occur that it gets lost or break in a bad incident, then you got extra.
__________________
NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens
Glenn E. Meyer is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 02:47 PM   #84
Creature
Junior member
 
Join Date: April 8, 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3,769
Quote:
It's not overkill. It's for when things really go bad, that small percentage of the time. Since it is a small percentage of the time, it usually isn't needed but when it is - then it's good to have.

Personally, when someone carries on that it is nutty to have this level of extra equipment, I really don't pay attention to that.

I've seen stuff break or get lost. If circumstance occur that it gets lost or break in a bad incident, then you got extra.
+1...but stand by for the "its just stupid to carry an extra magazine"-crowd to come barging in to further pontificate that the statistical likelihood of needing one, let alone two weapons, is so infinitely small as to make carrying even one weapon completely irrational!
Creature is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 03:09 PM   #85
Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: June 25, 2008
Location: Austin, CO
Posts: 19,578
Quote:
...stand by for the "its just stupid to carry an extra magazine"-crowd...
Wow, I'm glad I'm not in that crowd. All I ever said was that needing an extra mag was too unlikely for me to carry one and that anyone who wants to should go right ahead and do it. A BUG is in the same category. Carry one if you want, I don't want.
__________________
Nobody plans to screw up their lives...
...they just don't plan not to.
-Andy Stanley
Brian Pfleuger is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 03:15 PM   #86
Playboypenguin
Junior member
 
Join Date: February 27, 2006
Location: Great Pacific Northwest
Posts: 11,515
Quote:
...stand by for the "its just stupid to carry an extra magazine"-crowd...
If it is so stupid, why do shoulder holsters always have a place for an extra magazine? Huh...answer me that.
Playboypenguin is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 03:25 PM   #87
Glenn E. Meyer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 17, 2000
Posts: 20,064
Quote:
pontificate that the statistical likelihood of needing one, let alone two weapons, is so infinitely small as to make carrying even one weapon completely irrational!
I think those who choose that path, Grasshopper - will see the Wrath of Pax.

We beat that to a bloodly pulp.
__________________
NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens
Glenn E. Meyer is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 03:28 PM   #88
garryc
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 12, 2005
Posts: 2,536
I'd say the only reasons to carry two would be in case you loose control of the primary or it fails when you need it. That isn't likely to happen so I carry an extra mag on my off side. If you want a second gun, there isn't anything wrong with that. But where would you carry it? On the ankle is crappy in my view.
garryc is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 03:41 PM   #89
alistaire
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 22, 2008
Posts: 191
If it is legal to carry more than one gun, why settle for only two?
alistaire is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 03:43 PM   #90
Creature
Junior member
 
Join Date: April 8, 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3,769
Quote:
If it is so stupid, why do shoulder holsters always have a place for an extra magazine? Huh...answer me that.
Goooood question.....balance?

Last edited by Creature; January 26, 2009 at 03:48 PM.
Creature is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 04:37 PM   #91
LanceOregon
Junior member
 
Join Date: May 10, 2008
Location: Oregon
Posts: 2,774
I generally carry either my Kahr or my Walther in a holster, together with my Taser in a pants pocket.

Some pants like JC Penny's Stafford Pleated Dress pants have a nice change pocket inside the right pocket. The pocket itself is very generous in size. And the front of my Taser C2 fits very snugly inside the inner change pocket, keeping it upright and centered inside the pocket. I then put my wallet over it, which totally hides the taser's outline.

I've actually got pretty good about being able to draw my Taser quickly.

I have IWB holsters for both pistols. This combo of pistol and taser is typically my carry setup for most of the year.


LanceOregon is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 05:04 PM   #92
Hunter Rose
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 8, 2001
Location: 30 miles from Everywhere, right in the middle of Nowhere...
Posts: 718
Heh... some ask why multiples. Maybe because you need to carry with extra layers?

Seem to recall one lady on here carrying:

1911 @ 4 o'clock IWB
S&W J frame in left front pocket
2nd S&W in right jacket handwarmer pocket
S&W snub .44 in purse

Nobody argued that she was going for "overkill".

as for the "statistically, you only need..." crowd: if I need to use a weapon to defend my life, I've already dropped into a statistical anomoly. And now you want me to play the odds?
Hunter Rose is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 06:10 PM   #93
Magyar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 28, 2005
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,581
Quote:
If it is so stupid, why do shoulder holsters always have a place for an extra magazine? Huh...answer me that.
Weight distribution....All my nicer rigs have two mag pouchs on the opposite end...Wearing them w/o, I can see the point of why. It's kind of a "Ying & Yang" thing....
PBP, my rigs, Safariland & Bianchi are not attached..Yes, if to a belt; no problem with balance...
__________________
"Gun companies and gun magazines have long had relationships beyond cozy" C.J. Chivers, author "THE GUN"

Last edited by Magyar; January 26, 2009 at 09:12 PM.
Magyar is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 06:12 PM   #94
Playboypenguin
Junior member
 
Join Date: February 27, 2006
Location: Great Pacific Northwest
Posts: 11,515
Quote:
Weight distribution....All my nicer rigs have two mag pouchs on the opposite end...Wearing them w/o, I can see the point of why. It's kind of a "Ying & Yang" thing....
Actually, the mag side is attached to you belt...so the added weight of the mag does little to effect anything.
Playboypenguin is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 07:50 PM   #95
Creature
Junior member
 
Join Date: April 8, 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3,769
Balance!...as in symmetry!
Creature is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 07:52 PM   #96
Playboypenguin
Junior member
 
Join Date: February 27, 2006
Location: Great Pacific Northwest
Posts: 11,515
Quote:
Balance!...as in symmetry!
Oh yes, that part is important.
Playboypenguin is offline  
Old January 26, 2009, 08:28 PM   #97
Crankylove
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 8, 2008
Location: 8B ID
Posts: 1,752
I only carry one pistol, and sometimes a spare mag. Carryin more than one isnt for me, but to each his own, who am I to pass judgement. Besides, the CCW for Utah is only valid for one concealed firearm, so even it I wanted to, I couldn't legally.
__________________
The answer to 1984 is 1776
Crankylove is offline  
Old January 27, 2009, 12:57 AM   #98
skeeter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 29, 1999
Posts: 883
Wouldn't a pair of Glocks balance you out nicely? That wouldn't be "overkill" it would be balanced.
skeeter is offline  
Old January 27, 2009, 01:12 AM   #99
bds32
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 5, 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 481
Negative on the overkill. Carrying two guns is just plain smart. Do not convince yourself that you are paranoid. You may live your whole life and never need either one or......
bds32 is offline  
Old January 27, 2009, 01:32 AM   #100
Big Bill
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 29, 2008
Location: Idaho
Posts: 1,053
I watched Bruce Willis in "Last Man Standing" and didn't think his two gun carry was overkill!
__________________
There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time." - General George Patton Jr
Big Bill is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.12783 seconds with 8 queries