Cheap Side lock into a scatter gun?

BerdanSS · March 11, 2014, 07:53 PM

Anyone ever do this? I came into an old .54 caliber deer hunter R (for free

) with no sights, and the rear screw holes are stripped. Was thinking it might make a fun squirrel blaster. Seemed to remember someone doing this before.

Hawg · March 11, 2014, 08:02 PM

You can but it will be one heavy, unwieldy shotgun.

PetahW · March 12, 2014, 04:48 PM

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I used to use 28ga shotcups for bird shooting, with my T/C Renegade .56SB (smooth bore).

With no choke, I thought it only good for very close shooting.

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BerdanSS · March 12, 2014, 05:53 PM

this one of course is rifled. Not sure how I'd go about getting it turned into a smooth bore

Hawg · March 12, 2014, 06:08 PM

Have the rifling drilled out. I doubt it would cost much more to bore it on out as far as you can which would lighten it up considerably.

Pahoo · March 12, 2014, 07:18 PM

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Seemed to remember someone doing this before.

Yes, this has been done many times by folks. I'm going to assume that the rifling is bad. If so, rifling damage is not always even down the bore. We not only turned them into shotguns but pistols and small cannons. Hate to see good barrels go bad and thrown away. you can always squeeze a little more life out of them. ....

Be Safe !!!

BerdanSS · March 13, 2014, 01:08 PM

Actually the rifling, while shallow...is worn quite evenly

Pahoo · March 13, 2014, 01:30 PM

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Actually the rifleing, while shallow...is worn quite evenly

Check the rifling at the crown and if you still have that last bight there, clean it, shoot it and see how it performs. I thought you referring to a badly pitted bore. I have a .36 that also has shallow rifling and it still shoots quite well. Have to admit that I don't shoot it that often ....

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BerdanSS · March 13, 2014, 03:16 PM

The rifling is still quite visible at the muzzle.

The culprit itself

I cold Blued the barrel and then "aged it" with some oil & 0000 steel wool.

BerdanSS · March 13, 2014, 03:23 PM

If I had to guess, this rifle was a VERY poorly put together kit.

(1) The barrel and ram rod thimble were both still "in the white"....under the gloss black spray paint I removed that is

also poorly done, runs and splatters everywhere. There was a pretty good amount of overspray on the stock too. Like they set it close and down wind of the barrel when they painted it.

(2) The lock and trigger guard are both poorly fitted into the stock.

(3) Ramrod looks to of been cut with a dremmel....and not cut short enough.

(4) no sights, just the wallowed out screw holes.

(5) the stock just has some kind of stain (like minwax) wiped on the stock, no protective coat of any kind.

Other than that, it doesn't look like its been fired much. There was some VERY light pitting around the drum and on the barrel behind the nipple. I just cant think of any possible use I'd have for a badly put together No.11 capped .54.

BerdanSS · March 13, 2014, 03:41 PM

Although.....Pahoo, You have me thinking this would make a dandy horse pistol. I have a large chunk of walnut to make a stock from

Pahoo · March 13, 2014, 06:47 PM

If an M/L had a heart, it would be the bore. With as picky and handy as you are, just sit back, look at it and it will tell you what it needs. There is nothing there that I see to be, all that bad. Believe me when I say that I have seen a lot worse.....

From time to time, I have to rework some kit guns. The worse part of working with kits, is that folks got too impatient with the project and themselves. ...

Be Safe !!!

March 11, 2014, 07:53 PM	#1
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Location: to close to other houses Posts: 1,176	Cheap Side lock into a scatter gun? Anyone ever do this? I came into an old .54 caliber deer hunter R (for free ) with no sights, and the rear screw holes are stripped. Was thinking it might make a fun squirrel blaster. Seemed to remember someone doing this before. __________________ One day, Men in tall hats will thump their chests and proclaim..."oh, what a great sea of mud we lived in"--The unalterable fate of billy creek .... "Smoke.....it's what's for dinner"

March 12, 2014, 05:53 PM	#4
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Location: to close to other houses Posts: 1,176	this one of course is rifled. Not sure how I'd go about getting it turned into a smooth bore __________________ One day, Men in tall hats will thump their chests and proclaim..."oh, what a great sea of mud we lived in"--The unalterable fate of billy creek .... "Smoke.....it's what's for dinner"

March 13, 2014, 01:08 PM	#7
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Location: to close to other houses Posts: 1,176	Actually the rifling, while shallow...is worn quite evenly __________________ One day, Men in tall hats will thump their chests and proclaim..."oh, what a great sea of mud we lived in"--The unalterable fate of billy creek .... "Smoke.....it's what's for dinner" Last edited by BerdanSS; March 13, 2014 at 03:25 PM.

March 13, 2014, 03:16 PM	#9
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Location: to close to other houses Posts: 1,176	The rifling is still quite visible at the muzzle. The culprit itself I cold Blued the barrel and then "aged it" with some oil & 0000 steel wool. __________________ One day, Men in tall hats will thump their chests and proclaim..."oh, what a great sea of mud we lived in"--The unalterable fate of billy creek .... "Smoke.....it's what's for dinner" Last edited by BerdanSS; March 13, 2014 at 03:26 PM.

March 13, 2014, 03:23 PM	#10
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Location: to close to other houses Posts: 1,176	If I had to guess, this rifle was a VERY poorly put together kit. (1) The barrel and ram rod thimble were both still "in the white"....under the gloss black spray paint I removed that is also poorly done, runs and splatters everywhere. There was a pretty good amount of overspray on the stock too. Like they set it close and down wind of the barrel when they painted it. (2) The lock and trigger guard are both poorly fitted into the stock. (3) Ramrod looks to of been cut with a dremmel....and not cut short enough. (4) no sights, just the wallowed out screw holes. (5) the stock just has some kind of stain (like minwax) wiped on the stock, no protective coat of any kind. Other than that, it doesn't look like its been fired much. There was some VERY light pitting around the drum and on the barrel behind the nipple. I just cant think of any possible use I'd have for a badly put together No.11 capped .54. __________________ One day, Men in tall hats will thump their chests and proclaim..."oh, what a great sea of mud we lived in"--The unalterable fate of billy creek .... "Smoke.....it's what's for dinner"

March 11, 2014, 08:02 PM	#2
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	You can but it will be one heavy, unwieldy shotgun.

March 12, 2014, 04:48 PM	#3
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	. I used to use 28ga shotcups for bird shooting, with my T/C Renegade .56SB (smooth bore). With no choke, I thought it only good for very close shooting. .

March 12, 2014, 06:08 PM	#5
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Have the rifling drilled out. I doubt it would cost much more to bore it on out as far as you can which would lighten it up considerably.

March 13, 2014, 03:41 PM	#11
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Location: to close to other houses Posts: 1,176	Although.....Pahoo, You have me thinking this would make a dandy horse pistol. I have a large chunk of walnut to make a stock from __________________ One day, Men in tall hats will thump their chests and proclaim..."oh, what a great sea of mud we lived in"--The unalterable fate of billy creek .... "Smoke.....it's what's for dinner"

March 13, 2014, 06:47 PM	#12
Pahoo Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: IOWA Posts: 8,783	It is what it is !!! If an M/L had a heart, it would be the bore. With as picky and handy as you are, just sit back, look at it and it will tell you what it needs. There is nothing there that I see to be, all that bad. Believe me when I say that I have seen a lot worse..... From time to time, I have to rework some kit guns. The worse part of working with kits, is that folks got too impatient with the project and themselves. ... Be Safe !!! __________________ 'Fundamental truths' are easy to recognize because they are verified daily through simple observation and thus, require no testing.