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March 16, 2009, 06:51 PM | #51 | |
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Does he look anything like this?
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The jails are also full of people who were either innocent or where the decision of guilt was very controversial.
When the police make their decision to arrest you, then they usually stand by that decision to the bitter end. The prosecutor will stand by the officer's decision. The judge and jury will look down at you and only see a guy in handcuffs that the officer, who can do no wrong, arrested. The best you can do in any situation is to make every attempt to avoid it in the first place. However, if a strange man rushes into my home, is in my yard or a violent situation presents itself, then Im not going to be thinking about the law. I will do what I think is right to protect myself or others. For example, in some states you have to make an attempt to flee from your home before you can use lethal force. However, if some guy invades my house then I will probably be using lethal force and I wont be retreating no matter what the law might say. |
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I'm not an expert in this field nor do I pass myself off as one of the most knowledgeable members on this board. But I'll put in my two hay-pennies worth based on what you provided:
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If you think it's OK to fire your gun to just slow down the approach, you're putting your behind in the sling from the moment you touch off that round. If you really think you know your bullets and where they will go upon ricochets, then you might as well change your handle to Revolver Ocelot. Your statement is wrong on so many levels. If you don't see this, I really don't think I have the ability to articulate my point without further confusion. I think this should be left to someone else that's more qualified to explain. And to top it off, you're ready and willing to shoot an unarmed person without considering other options? Responsible gunownership lies more heavily when NOT to shoot, rather than when TO shoot.
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When to FIRE
Shout GO AWAY, three times, with pistol drawn, then do the Mosambique Drill two to the body and one to the head, repeat if necessary. I still have more rounds to do this one more time...
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I wish to apologize to the forum. I posted a reply that tried to be humorous about the subject, but it fell terribley flat. That reply was deleted by the administration. I was wrong in trying to inject such humor into such a serious discussion..again forgive me..it will not happen again...
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NO, I WOULD NOT (shoot someone because he is "behaving in a threatening manner)"! I would remain very alert, but I would not shoot unless and until (1) I had reason to believe that that someone had the ability and opportunity to seriously injure me or mine, (2) I had reason to believe that we were in imminent danger of serious bodily harm, and (3) it appeared to me that I had no reasonable alternative. To do otherwise would constitute murder. That's the law, and it has been for many centuries. Actually, I would have been unlikely to draw under the circumstances described. Unlawful act, for a citizen, generally, unless there was imminent danger. Brandishing, assault, illegal use of a firearm ,depending on the state code.... Quote:
You just might be acquitted, or have your conviction overturned upon appeal under the circumstances described, even after having given the state a basis for establishing mens rea by your cavalier posts. I very seriously doubt it, however. But let's assume for a moment that that will happen. While you are consulting with an experienced criminal trial attorney in advance, and I strongly recommend that you do so, you might ask him what he thinks the ordeal might cost you. |
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However I'd never draw a gun when not in a real danger. I believe that posing with a gun - or even worse, thinking that a gun is some kind of a human remote control - is the worst error one can do. I mean a gun is a tool for killing things and one should never pull it if s/he is not in a situation when killing is morally justified (for our moral and experience is the only things we can use to make our decisions namely in a danger). For me, a handgun is a last line of defence. For other than openly life threathening situations I'd rather use bare hands, telescopic batton or cajune pepper spray.
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And with that: closed.
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