Best pump shotgun? - Page 2

dgludwig · February 11, 2011, 02:04 PM

The Browning BPS-for all the reasons BigJimP cited. I will concede that the BPS is on the heavy side when compared to the steel-receivered Ithaca and most aluminum receivered pumps, but on a par with the Remington Model 870 and the Winchester Model 12 (in terms of weight). And if I had to live with only one barrel length, I'd probably opt for the 26" size over the 28" one, just based on the kind of hunting I do most.

southpaw02 · February 11, 2011, 04:22 PM

Another one for the child of the Remington 17. The Ithaca 37. It is one of the best platforms for a left hand shooter IMO.

I will admit the safety has to be moved for a lefty. That in and of itself is not a problem.

I have one in 12,16,and 20 ga. The 37 is a great gun!

.300 Weatherby Mag · February 11, 2011, 07:53 PM

Winchester Model 12 and if you want a .410 its gotta be a model 42...

pmulls870 · February 11, 2011, 08:37 PM

I don't know about the rest of you. I have a 26" Remington 870. The thing is bulletproof. Work the action in the mud, get it wet, neglect it, scratch it up, put 300 rounds a day through it, It takes it and comes back for more. Just my $.02... if you're buying a gun that is rock solid, has thousands of affordable replacement parts, and never needs to go in to the gunsmith, you're talking an 870

rsnell · February 15, 2011, 12:39 PM

Winchester Model 12, full chock. Preferably pre '64.

Bob

BarkSlayer · February 15, 2011, 10:53 PM

Remington 870 Wingmaster in 12 and 20 gauge. Preferably at least 25 years old.

nathaniel · February 15, 2011, 11:57 PM

My only shotgun (other than the safe queens) is a Benelli Nova, it hasnt let me down yet. Ive done just about everything with it, my brother even knocked it out of the boat one day during duck hunting. I fished it out shook the water out of it and kept going. It has never jammed, missfired, or broke on me and I am pretty rough on it. I would definatly recommend it to anyone and have on a couple of occasions.

bailey bud · February 16, 2011, 11:57 AM

I own a 1912 (made in 1913). It still shoots just fine. John Browning designed an exceptional shotgun.

That said - I like my Wingmaster more.

As I said earlier - if I could find a reasonable Ithaca - I'd seriously consider it.

I've wanted a 16ga Model 37 for a long time.

Bones · February 17, 2011, 04:43 AM

Was able to shoot my first Skeet 25 with a Winchester Model 12 with a 26" mod. choke barrel. Today it sits in the safe mostly

and an old Remington 870 rides behind the sit in the pickup.

Sport45 · February 17, 2011, 07:19 AM

12 gauge Remington 870 Wingmaster with a few barrels and a bag of chokes.

GDCooper · February 17, 2011, 10:53 PM

If only considering guns in current production my preference runs strongly in favor of the BPS. VERY well made, especially considering that pumps are the "price point" product among today's offerings. But, the BPS carries a larger price tag than most of its current competion.

The classic pumps listed by several posters are all good, if you can find a good one for a good price, not easily done...

Dave McC · February 18, 2011, 09:39 AM

My choice an 870. But it's not the only good choice....

Try different pumps and see what FEELS best.

kozak6 · February 19, 2011, 11:31 PM

I just remembered one more design feature I enjoy about the Ithaca model 37.

It loads with the carrier up.

It's really a nice feature. I'm surprised more shotguns aren't designed this way.

exphys2010 · February 20, 2011, 01:23 AM

+1 for the Mossberg 500. I like all the other big name pumps out there, they all function great. But I have always owned Mossberg shotguns, and love them.

Fifth Wheel · February 20, 2011, 10:38 AM

I've been partial to the 870 for over 20 years. But recently I handled a Mossberg breacher and I was really impressed. I plan to get a 590A1 in the future. I prefer the safety location on the Mossberg, the easier method of reloading, and the ability to load one extra round into the same length barrel (870 18.5" barrel can hold 6+1; the 590A1 18.5" barrel can hold 7+1 (Hans Vang is working on a +2 extension for the Mossberg)). The extra round is a big plus. My Ithaca 37 with a 20" barrel holds 7+1. The Mossberg 590A1 with a 20" barrel holds 8+1. They are all equally reliable.

tandom · February 22, 2011, 08:53 PM

i agree with those who like the Ithaca 37 and Browning BPS, they are bottom ejecting, steel receiver, walnut stock. hard to beat that combo.

oneounceload · February 22, 2011, 09:06 PM

Quote:

i agree with those who like the Ithaca 37 and Browning BPS, they are bottom ejecting, steel receiver, walnut stock. hard to beat that combo.

Especially to those of us who are LH

egor20 · February 22, 2011, 09:13 PM

My wife's a southpaw, she lurves the Ithaca and the new Savage 350.

FJJ3 · February 23, 2011, 09:46 PM

Remington 870 Wingmaster, 28" Modified Barrel. it's been used as a boat paddle, marsh walking stick, and a few other things a shotgun isnt designed to do....and it keeps on going.

30-30remchester · February 23, 2011, 10:19 PM

Sorry BAILEY BUD the Perfect Repeater Winchester model 12 wasnt designed by the great Johnatan Browning. It was designed by Thomas Crosley Johnson. The Remington model 17( the forerunner to the Ithaca model 37) was designed by Browning. That being said, I studiy firearms design and manufacture. The ultimate is the Winchester model 12 built before 1955. I own a few along with older Ithaca 37's.

T_King_85 · February 25, 2011, 03:46 AM

For that type of versatility, the Mossberg 500. Affordability, versatility, reliability, and everything you need on the after market to make it your own. Can't beat it!

armsmaster270 · February 25, 2011, 06:38 AM

I gotta vote in with the 870 and the BPS. There is a lot of 870's in squad cars.

bn12gg · February 25, 2011, 02:49 PM

The Browning Pump is a real nice shotgun. I picked up my 12g BPS
thru Jaquas several years ago -- a guy had won it in a trap tourney--
he shot it once and then sold it (to me). There are plenty of real
good ($) pre owned deals on the BPS's.

As a southpaw, I really like the bottom eject feature.

.02 David

Mallard76 · February 25, 2011, 04:49 PM

Remington 870 Wingmaster. With multiple configurations and set ups, it's a do it all shotgun. Plus after market parts are everywhere.

Slugo48 · February 26, 2011, 08:41 AM

Browning BPS, Remington 870 Wingmaster or an Ithaca Model 37...

February 11, 2011, 02:04 PM	#26
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 7,486	The Browning BPS-for all the reasons BigJimP cited. I will concede that the BPS is on the heavy side when compared to the steel-receivered Ithaca and most aluminum receivered pumps, but on a par with the Remington Model 870 and the Winchester Model 12 (in terms of weight). And if I had to live with only one barrel length, I'd probably opt for the 26" size over the 28" one, just based on the kind of hunting I do most. __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

February 15, 2011, 10:53 PM	#31
BarkSlayer Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2008 Location: Northwest Ohio Posts: 265	Remington 870 Wingmaster in 12 and 20 gauge. Preferably at least 25 years old. __________________ Northwest Ohio USA

February 17, 2011, 04:43 AM	#34
Bones Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2010 Posts: 122	Was able to shoot my first Skeet 25 with a Winchester Model 12 with a 26" mod. choke barrel. Today it sits in the safe mostly and an old Remington 870 rides behind the sit in the pickup. __________________ READY on the "LEFT!"....READY on the "RIGHT!"...PULL!

February 17, 2011, 07:19 AM	#35
Sport45 Senior Member Join Date: May 25, 1999 Location: Too close to Houston Posts: 4,196	12 gauge Remington 870 Wingmaster with a few barrels and a bag of chokes. __________________ Proud member of the NRA and Texas State Rifle Association. Registered and active voter.

February 22, 2011, 08:53 PM	#41
tandom Member Join Date: June 21, 2008 Location: PA Posts: 77	best pump shotgun i agree with those who like the Ithaca 37 and Browning BPS, they are bottom ejecting, steel receiver, walnut stock. hard to beat that combo.

February 11, 2011, 04:22 PM	#27
southpaw02 Junior Member Join Date: November 28, 2009 Location: S.E. Va. CSA Posts: 14	Another one for the child of the Remington 17. The Ithaca 37. It is one of the best platforms for a left hand shooter IMO. I will admit the safety has to be moved for a lefty. That in and of itself is not a problem. I have one in 12,16,and 20 ga. The 37 is a great gun!

February 11, 2011, 07:53 PM	#28
.300 Weatherby Mag Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2008 Posts: 1,777	Winchester Model 12 and if you want a .410 its gotta be a model 42...

February 11, 2011, 08:37 PM	#29
pmulls870 Junior Member Join Date: February 11, 2011 Posts: 8	I don't know about the rest of you. I have a 26" Remington 870. The thing is bulletproof. Work the action in the mud, get it wet, neglect it, scratch it up, put 300 rounds a day through it, It takes it and comes back for more. Just my $.02... if you're buying a gun that is rock solid, has thousands of affordable replacement parts, and never needs to go in to the gunsmith, you're talking an 870

February 15, 2011, 12:39 PM	#30
rsnell Member Join Date: January 25, 2011 Location: Cleveland, TN Posts: 74	Winchester Model 12, full chock. Preferably pre '64. Bob

February 15, 2011, 11:57 PM	#32
nathaniel Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: North Dakota Posts: 600	My only shotgun (other than the safe queens) is a Benelli Nova, it hasnt let me down yet. Ive done just about everything with it, my brother even knocked it out of the boat one day during duck hunting. I fished it out shook the water out of it and kept going. It has never jammed, missfired, or broke on me and I am pretty rough on it. I would definatly recommend it to anyone and have on a couple of occasions.

February 16, 2011, 11:57 AM	#33
bailey bud Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2011 Location: 1.5 miles above insanity Posts: 259	I own a 1912 (made in 1913). It still shoots just fine. John Browning designed an exceptional shotgun. That said - I like my Wingmaster more. As I said earlier - if I could find a reasonable Ithaca - I'd seriously consider it. I've wanted a 16ga Model 37 for a long time.

February 17, 2011, 10:53 PM	#36
GDCooper Member Join Date: February 17, 2011 Posts: 68	If only considering guns in current production my preference runs strongly in favor of the BPS. VERY well made, especially considering that pumps are the "price point" product among today's offerings. But, the BPS carries a larger price tag than most of its current competion. The classic pumps listed by several posters are all good, if you can find a good one for a good price, not easily done...

February 18, 2011, 09:39 AM	#37
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	My choice an 870. But it's not the only good choice.... Try different pumps and see what FEELS best.

February 19, 2011, 11:31 PM	#38
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 3,113	I just remembered one more design feature I enjoy about the Ithaca model 37. It loads with the carrier up. It's really a nice feature. I'm surprised more shotguns aren't designed this way.

February 20, 2011, 01:23 AM	#39
exphys2010 Member Join Date: September 19, 2010 Posts: 69	+1 for the Mossberg 500. I like all the other big name pumps out there, they all function great. But I have always owned Mossberg shotguns, and love them.

February 20, 2011, 10:38 AM	#40
Fifth Wheel Member Join Date: March 21, 2006 Posts: 49	I've been partial to the 870 for over 20 years. But recently I handled a Mossberg breacher and I was really impressed. I plan to get a 590A1 in the future. I prefer the safety location on the Mossberg, the easier method of reloading, and the ability to load one extra round into the same length barrel (870 18.5" barrel can hold 6+1; the 590A1 18.5" barrel can hold 7+1 (Hans Vang is working on a +2 extension for the Mossberg)). The extra round is a big plus. My Ithaca 37 with a 20" barrel holds 7+1. The Mossberg 590A1 with a 20" barrel holds 8+1. They are all equally reliable.

February 22, 2011, 09:13 PM	#43
egor20 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,824	oneounceload My wife's a southpaw, she lurves the Ithaca and the new Savage 350. __________________ Chief stall mucker and grain chef Country don't mean dumb. Steven King. The Stand

February 23, 2011, 09:46 PM	#44
FJJ3 Junior Member Join Date: January 23, 2011 Posts: 11	Remington 870 Wingmaster, 28" Modified Barrel. it's been used as a boat paddle, marsh walking stick, and a few other things a shotgun isnt designed to do....and it keeps on going.

February 23, 2011, 10:19 PM	#45
30-30remchester Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2009 Location: mountains of colorado Posts: 977	Sorry BAILEY BUD the Perfect Repeater Winchester model 12 wasnt designed by the great Johnatan Browning. It was designed by Thomas Crosley Johnson. The Remington model 17( the forerunner to the Ithaca model 37) was designed by Browning. That being said, I studiy firearms design and manufacture. The ultimate is the Winchester model 12 built before 1955. I own a few along with older Ithaca 37's.

February 25, 2011, 03:46 AM	#46
T_King_85 Junior member Join Date: September 27, 2006 Posts: 13	For that type of versatility, the Mossberg 500. Affordability, versatility, reliability, and everything you need on the after market to make it your own. Can't beat it!

February 25, 2011, 06:38 AM	#47
armsmaster270 Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,951	I gotta vote in with the 870 and the BPS. There is a lot of 870's in squad cars. __________________ http://www.armsmaster.net-a.googlepages.com http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/f...aster270/Guns/ Retired LE, M.P., Sr. M.P. Investigator F.B.I. Trained Rangemaster/Firearms Instructor & Armorer, Presently Forensic Document Examiner for D.H.S.

February 25, 2011, 02:49 PM	#48
bn12gg Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2011 Location: Winter Park, Florida Posts: 470	The Browning Pump is a real nice shotgun. I picked up my 12g BPS thru Jaquas several years ago -- a guy had won it in a trap tourney-- he shot it once and then sold it (to me). There are plenty of real good ($) pre owned deals on the BPS's. As a southpaw, I really like the bottom eject feature. .02 David

February 25, 2011, 04:49 PM	#49
Mallard76 Member Join Date: November 22, 2008 Posts: 42	870 Remington 870 Wingmaster. With multiple configurations and set ups, it's a do it all shotgun. Plus after market parts are everywhere.

February 26, 2011, 08:41 AM	#50
Slugo48 Junior member Join Date: February 26, 2011 Posts: 9	Browning BPS, Remington 870 Wingmaster or an Ithaca Model 37...

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