short slug loads

Brian Williams · November 6, 2001, 11:27 AM

I saw some short slugs loads at a local shop they were about 1.5 inches long. how do the function in a pump or auto loader. are they too short to run the action, do they have a tendency to stove pipe?????

would they work for hd? are they for hunting...

C.R.Sam · November 6, 2001, 01:09 PM

Aguila Minishells.

Dillon says they function flawlessly in Winchester 1300 series guns. Mossies n Remington may need minor modification.

They won't normally cycle an auto. Some pumps are ok with em and a lot aren't. Practically have to try em to see how they feed in your gun. I have a Higgens that feeds em just fine. Holds eight in the stock tube. My gun gets small pie plate hole in car door at 50yds with all eight rapid fire. Recoil mild but performance seems good.

Sam

November 6, 2001, 03:57 PM

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would they work for hd? are they for hunting...

They were designed with law enforcement in mind so I would say home defense is a practical application once you achieve reliable feeding. They also make buckshot that has #1 buck and #4 buck mixed, as well as some 1½" game loads.

Jager1 · November 7, 2001, 09:48 AM

A novel idea that fails in practice in most instances.

I purchased a box to try in my home defense 870's. I hoped they could reduce recoil in order for my female companion to wield it better.

They would not feed reliably (as advertised - so who is complaining?). Also, they were difficult to extract. Accuracy was acceptable, but nothing to write home about.

I considered using one in the chamber followed by more traditional rounds after feed reliability was determined to be extremely poor. The extraction problem had me give up that idea quickly.

DML · November 8, 2001, 02:16 AM

There is a pump shotgun made just for these 1 1.2" shells. Unfortunately, it's made in Turkey and looks like Mossberg with a genetic problem. The quality on the ones I saw wasn't very good. I guess it would go bang though.

I tried the shells is a Mossberg 500USA (590) and a Remington 870. They worked most of the time in the Mossberg, but not at all in the 870. The Remington shell lifter drops away before the short shell is chambered.

I also had extraction problems with the slug load. The bird shot shells worked OK.

Gopher · November 11, 2001, 12:55 AM

They work fine in my Ithaca 37 DSPS. Good groups and almost no recoil. I havent tried the 7 1/2 birdshot rounds but they should work well also.

CWL · November 12, 2001, 07:41 PM

They wouldn't work in my Rem 870 Marine Mag. either.

November 8, 2001, 02:16 AM	#5
DML Senior Member Join Date: November 24, 2000 Location: Aridzona Posts: 257	There is a pump shotgun made just for these 1 1.2" shells. Unfortunately, it's made in Turkey and looks like Mossberg with a genetic problem. The quality on the ones I saw wasn't very good. I guess it would go bang though. I tried the shells is a Mossberg 500USA (590) and a Remington 870. They worked most of the time in the Mossberg, but not at all in the 870. The Remington shell lifter drops away before the short shell is chambered. I also had extraction problems with the slug load. The bird shot shells worked OK. __________________ Experience is what you get when you were expecting something else.

November 6, 2001, 11:27 AM	#1
Brian Williams Senior Member Join Date: September 4, 2001 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 1,288	short slug loads I saw some short slugs loads at a local shop they were about 1.5 inches long. how do the function in a pump or auto loader. are they too short to run the action, do they have a tendency to stove pipe????? would they work for hd? are they for hunting...

November 6, 2001, 01:09 PM	#2
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Aguila Minishells. Dillon says they function flawlessly in Winchester 1300 series guns. Mossies n Remington may need minor modification. They won't normally cycle an auto. Some pumps are ok with em and a lot aren't. Practically have to try em to see how they feed in your gun. I have a Higgens that feeds em just fine. Holds eight in the stock tube. My gun gets small pie plate hole in car door at 50yds with all eight rapid fire. Recoil mild but performance seems good. Sam

November 7, 2001, 09:48 AM	#4
Jager1 Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2000 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 422	A novel idea that fails in practice in most instances. I purchased a box to try in my home defense 870's. I hoped they could reduce recoil in order for my female companion to wield it better. They would not feed reliably (as advertised - so who is complaining?). Also, they were difficult to extract. Accuracy was acceptable, but nothing to write home about. I considered using one in the chamber followed by more traditional rounds after feed reliability was determined to be extremely poor. The extraction problem had me give up that idea quickly.

November 11, 2001, 12:55 AM	#6
Gopher Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 1999 Location: Texas USA Posts: 367	They work fine in my Ithaca 37 DSPS. Good groups and almost no recoil. I havent tried the 7 1/2 birdshot rounds but they should work well also.

November 12, 2001, 07:41 PM	#7
CWL Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2001 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,576	They wouldn't work in my Rem 870 Marine Mag. either.