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September 6, 2012, 08:00 AM | #1 |
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anyone use one of these "wallet" holsters ???
I started doing some holster leather work a while back, & designed my own similar, but have been too busy to get back to leather working... saw one of these in the last Cabela's shooting catalog, so I just bought one to try out... ( if I don't like it, maybe it'll motivate me to finish the one I started )
anyone using one ??? http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot...3Bcat104388480
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September 6, 2012, 06:22 PM | #2 |
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I have something similar for the Beretta Bobcat (22 LR). It actually shoots from the holster.
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I've owned and caried two or three of them until they were banned in Florida.
If the firearm can be fired from the pocket holster they are not allowed here.???
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They do come close to crossing the line into AOW territory, but apparently, they're OK as long as the slide is visible. It's an absolutely wretched idea from a safety standpoint, though.
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Disguising the gun as something besides a gun is illegal. As long as the slide is exposed it is still obviously a handgun and should be legal. That has always been my understanding.
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Not sure on the fine points but many years back a big media thing was made of the banning of wallet holsters that allow firing from the holster and warnings not to carry were many and stern.
I'll see if I can find mention of this law's current status.
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I just looked up the law and it specifically refers to High Standard derringers which is what we were carrying back then as well as American Derringer center fire double action derringers.
So, the visible slide might be the difference.
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This has me puzzled, Quote:
After looking at the link you may as well carry without the holster. Plenty of room for something in one's pocket to get caught up in the trigger guard.
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A gun disguised as something besides a gun is considered an AOW (any other weapon) according to the ATF. This is like the pager guns I remember seeing in the 1980s, or a zip gun. A gun disguised as a wallet would fall into that category.
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It's a gray area. 26 USC § 5845 (e) vaguely defines the concept of an "any other weapon (AOW)" as follows:
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From the ATF, in 1997: Quote:
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So, the ones with exposed slides are technically legal. There's still a risk of significant hassle until somebody figures that out, however. Also, getting shot in the jiggly bits. Not good from what I've gathered. (* Bonus points to anyone who knows where that last bit came from.)
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1st off I would suspect that Cabela's wouldn't sell them, if they were not legal...
I bought one, it should be here today... just wanted something that wouldn't print a gun in a tighter jeans pocket... I actually have one about 1/2 done, that also holds a spare mag ( I like to make holsters in my spare time... which I've had none of lately, which is why it's only 1/2 done ) I'm not as worried about being able to shoot it from the holster, as I am giving a square print in my jeans pocket...
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If it no longer looks like a handgun then it is illegal but since the wallet doesn't hide the shape of the handgun it is perfectly legal. This according to the video I found:
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While it appears the guy in the video is correct, one must be very wary of using any source from the internet for legal guidance.
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Yeah you have a good point there
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I went with the DeSantis Super Fly...fits my pocket nicely.
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The law is not the first thing that came to my mind when I saw these. For me, if I'm going to pocket carry, I want something that protects the trigger from being inadvertently pulled. This clearly does not accomplish this.
-1 for me.. My pocket holster is just a cheap nylon one that does very well at protecting the trigger gaurd and breaking up the lines of the gun. It even has a pocket on the other side so you can carry gun against you or gun side out. Works great for $12. |
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I'll take a stab at the source of the rifled bore exception to the law banning concealable weapons --- The NRA
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