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July 12, 2012, 12:35 PM | #76 | |
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They are very accurate, devour any ammo you feed them and the backwards safety/decocker is very easy to learn. Also for $550.00 they are a steal pricewise. I'm always amazed at the strong passions a top notch pistol like the Beretta stirs up. Shoot and enjoy your new 92FS OP, you've got one of the most dead nuts reliable, well balanced, accurate handguns available.
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That's cute, but it's a distortion of what I described. The thread is not about the likelihood of being disarmed. The OP didn't limit the degree or probability of liability. He didn't qualify his request based on a common amount of training. He asked what are the cons. To the extent that an opponent can with one hand disassemble the gun, it is a liability....to me. If it's not to you because you are an ultra tactical operator, fine, but not everyone is. It may not occur to everyone to keep his distance or it might not be in the cards depending on the circumstances. Lighten up, Francis.
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The "ultra tactical operator" in this thread is the Jet Li wannabe.
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This thread has turned into total BS.
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Just food for thought. If you are close enough and fast enough to Ninja dis-assemble a 92 (which is possible especially with the earlier ones, unlikely but theoretically possible), you are also close enough and fast enough to push almost any semi auto out of battery or even get your finger behind many triggers so as a SIG for example.
I myself and far,far from Ninja enough to do any of that. For that matter I am a nice guy and completely non violent so why do I have some dude with a Beretta 92 pointing at me.
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My PX4 also strips down very easily. It's a good thing that if someone is grabbing the barrel of my gun to attempt to disarm me, they're getting shot way, way before that.
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However, let's get off the ninja thing, or it will.
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As far as the 92 goes. I resisted buying a 92 for years. Too big etc. Bought a 92A1 because.....well every gun collection needs one amiright?? and .............. I LOVE IT!!!!. Its awesome.
Like any tool it has its pros and cons but all in all its a damn fine arm.
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The only real issue I ever had was with the magazines. If you leave them loaded for too long, the springs get weak, and you won't fire but a few rounds before the slide overrides the next round.
The solution is get two or three magazines and rotate one or two of them out every week or so. |
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Uh oh, here we go again...
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OP, glad you like. I've had mine about 2 years now. I have replaced nothing and fixed nothing, and have not yet needed to. Only complaint I would have is the polymer guide rod and trigger - but those are easily replaced with steel (allegedly, I have yet to get around to it) As to ammo, mine loves +P and has eaten everything I've fed it, from cheap foreign crap to high dollar JHPs. Actually just took up reloading for it, as it's the gun I shoot the most Quote:
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@Stressfire,
"How long is too long?" Say six months to a year. It probably depends on who makes the magazines. On the other hand, you can get all 15 rounds in them without breaking your thumbs. In contrast, my experience with SIG magazines was that you had to leave them loaded for at least a month to get them fully loaded. |
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I have had to replace springs in mags I kept loaded to 15 rounds for seval months. The mag still worked 100%, but it didn't lock the slide back anymore. I changed them to +10% springs, and nary a problem again...
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July 17, 2012, 01:33 AM | #93 |
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When Jet Li insta-stripped Mel's Beretta in the film it had an extra-length thumbpiece brazed onto the disassembly lever. So apparently even the Kung-Fu master needed help doing it.
The Beretta's size and trigger reach is about the only issue I really have with it. If you really hate the safety lever simply get a DAO version or decocker-only model. I've never been without a Beretta in my collection since 1991, and honestly have never seen one malfunction. I don't waste time trying to CCW mine, but for a home/shop defense piece it has few equals. |
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For many reasons, unless you're collecting, I wouldn't even consider any models prior to the 92F. I have about 2000 rounds through my first one. Never a problem, never a worry, most accurate gun I own by far. Now I want a 96A1!
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Shipwreck, it would appear that we're both right. Not only was it already down, but it also had an extended lever:
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The contract specified a certain lead run of pistols from Italy, but the bulk of the contract was to set up factories and machining for domestic production. IMBEL ran one and Taurus ran one. Taurus, being a private company, has been selling clones and indigenously changed takes on the "original" 92 pretty much from the get go.
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