ZCORR Anti Corrosion Gun Bags

ZCORR Jay · July 28, 2010, 10:16 AM

ZCORR Firearm Storage & Preservation (FSP) Bags utilize military proven technology and are simple to use. Slide a clean firearm or ammunition into the puncture resistant, non-abrasive ZCORR FSP bag and seal it shut with the re-useable VelcroTM closure. Depending on use, retrieve your firearm up to twenty years later, and it’s ready to use without need for cleaning or re-oiling, just like the day it was stored.

Check out our website for a full explanation of our military origins including design and testing. www.zcorrproducts.com

Forum Members are also welcome to use the discount code
ZCORR-FORUM2010 for 10% off your entire order.

ZCORR Products
Manufactured by Heritage Packaging
585-742-3310
[email protected]

ZCORR Jay · July 30, 2010, 07:53 AM

Hey all,
Looking for some opinions on this idea. We are thinking of making up some ammo can VpCI liners and I'd like to get some feedback. The idea is to have them for the three most common sizes for now and would either have our Velcro closer or a zipper seal.

We are also thinking of making a few bag sizes for other loose ammo such as the small blue bag in the first photo of this thread.

ZCORR Jay · August 10, 2010, 08:09 AM

ZCORR Anti Corrosion Gun Bags are now available at www.storeguns.com where you can also find various storage solutions such as vaults, safes, and anti corrosion products.

Check 'em out!

**Mike Irwin** · August 10, 2010, 08:45 AM

Wait a second... ammo can liners? For storing ammo?

Won't VPI fumes kill primers? That's what I've always understood.

ZCORR Jay · August 10, 2010, 09:02 AM

To our understanding the VpCI molecules don't have any negative effects on the ammo primers. The molecules do create a layer on metal surfaces but disperse once removed from the bags. We have been testing the liners and all of the ammo stored so far has fired as expected.

Can you help me understand how it could have a negative effect?

**Mike Irwin** · August 11, 2010, 08:23 AM

I may be wrong in my assumptions here, but I always understood that VPI was essentially a very light, easily vaporizable (is that a word? I don't know) oil.

Oil vapor will, over time, kill primers. I've seen it happen.

If, however, VPI isn't oil, then it may not be an issue.

ZCORR Jay · August 12, 2010, 01:12 PM

I will do some research and hopefully draw up a clear cut answer to this. I'll post my findings here.

Check back in a day or so.

Zcorr · August 26, 2010, 05:59 PM

VpCI vapors are not in any way an oil. In fact they are an excellent alternative to corrosion inhibiting oils.

VpCI begins as a powder based chemical which sublimates into vapor. What exactly that chemical is, is a trade secret that we cannot share but I assure you it is not similar in any way to oil.

Interesting fact: many oil pipelines around the world are protected by corrosion inhibiting chemicals that are added to the oil.

For more information see here: http://www.heritagepackaging.com/pag...sion-packaging

**Mike Irwin** · August 30, 2010, 12:53 PM

OK, that's good to know.

Thanks!

ZCORR Jay · September 1, 2010, 07:50 AM

Here is an interesting review that DVOTV did on our ZCORR Bags.

ZCORR Jay · September 9, 2010, 08:17 AM

So in addition to the ammo can liners we are playing around with we are also experimenting with some potential ammo preservation bags and want to know what you folks think.

The sizes so far are

3"x4"
4"x6"
8"x11"

No prices as of yet but hopefully by the weekend.

Here are some sample images.

ZCORR Jay · September 13, 2010, 03:25 PM

Hey all,
I have started posting 3 different sized ammo bags on our site at http://www.zcorrproducts.com/collect...m-storage-bags.

These bags are made from the same interior layer as our ZCORR Gun Bags but instead of a foil barrier layer they are coated with a clear barrier layer providing the same performance and protection.

mete · September 13, 2010, 04:06 PM

Here's one older , 1975 , paper.
http://www.cortecvci.com/Publication...cts/CTP-10.pdf

For more info just Google 'vapor phase inhibitor' .
I have been using them for 40 years and as the paper explains they first were for ferrous alloys then they developed some for non-ferrous also.
My long term gun storage is to clean the gun thoroughly, apply a thin coat of RIG ,wrap with VPI paper , then put into a zip-loc bag .Works very well.I'm sure ZCORR works just as well !

ZCORR Jay · September 13, 2010, 06:01 PM

That's a great post mete. Our bags were designed to make the preservation process the easiest we could. The VpCI layer we use is so effective and the foil barrier layer locks not only locks in everything in the bag but also locks out everything in the surrounding atmosphere.

ZCORR Jay · September 26, 2010, 08:35 PM

Just wanted to give a heads up and let you all know that we will be releasing our top of the line storage bag this coming week. It is the M-16 Rifle bag that we have manufactured for the United States Marine Corps. These are the same bags that are discussed on our Military Origins Page. These bags offer the highest protection by combining the same anti corrosion performance of our ZCORR bags with a puncture proof liner.

Pricing will be available very shortly.

July 28, 2010, 10:16 AM	#1
ZCORR Jay Member Join Date: July 23, 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 99	ZCORR Anti Corrosion Gun Bags ZCORR Firearm Storage & Preservation (FSP) Bags utilize military proven technology and are simple to use. Slide a clean firearm or ammunition into the puncture resistant, non-abrasive ZCORR FSP bag and seal it shut with the re-useable VelcroTM closure. Depending on use, retrieve your firearm up to twenty years later, and it’s ready to use without need for cleaning or re-oiling, just like the day it was stored. Check out our website for a full explanation of our military origins including design and testing. www.zcorrproducts.com Forum Members are also welcome to use the discount code ZCORR-FORUM2010 for 10% off your entire order. ZCORR Products Manufactured by Heritage Packaging 585-742-3310 [email protected] __________________ ZCORR Products 10% Forum Member Discount Code ZCORR-FORUM2013 Free shipping on all domestic & APO/AFO orders over $75

July 30, 2010, 07:53 AM	#2
ZCORR Jay Member Join Date: July 23, 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 99	Hey all, Looking for some opinions on this idea. We are thinking of making up some ammo can VpCI liners and I'd like to get some feedback. The idea is to have them for the three most common sizes for now and would either have our Velcro closer or a zipper seal. We are also thinking of making a few bag sizes for other loose ammo such as the small blue bag in the first photo of this thread. __________________ ZCORR Products 10% Forum Member Discount Code ZCORR-FORUM2013 Free shipping on all domestic & APO/AFO orders over $75 Last edited by ZCORR Jay; August 2, 2010 at 06:28 AM.

August 10, 2010, 08:09 AM	#3
ZCORR Jay Member Join Date: July 23, 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 99	ZCORR Anti Corrosion Gun Bags are now available at www.storeguns.com where you can also find various storage solutions such as vaults, safes, and anti corrosion products. Check 'em out! __________________ ZCORR Products 10% Forum Member Discount Code ZCORR-FORUM2013 Free shipping on all domestic & APO/AFO orders over $75

August 10, 2010, 08:45 AM	#4
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,379	Wait a second... ammo can liners? For storing ammo? Won't VPI fumes kill primers? That's what I've always understood. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

August 10, 2010, 09:02 AM	#5
ZCORR Jay Member Join Date: July 23, 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 99	To our understanding the VpCI molecules don't have any negative effects on the ammo primers. The molecules do create a layer on metal surfaces but disperse once removed from the bags. We have been testing the liners and all of the ammo stored so far has fired as expected. Can you help me understand how it could have a negative effect? __________________ ZCORR Products 10% Forum Member Discount Code ZCORR-FORUM2013 Free shipping on all domestic & APO/AFO orders over $75

August 11, 2010, 08:23 AM	#6
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,379	I may be wrong in my assumptions here, but I always understood that VPI was essentially a very light, easily vaporizable (is that a word? I don't know) oil. Oil vapor will, over time, kill primers. I've seen it happen. If, however, VPI isn't oil, then it may not be an issue. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

August 12, 2010, 01:12 PM	#7
ZCORR Jay Member Join Date: July 23, 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 99	I will do some research and hopefully draw up a clear cut answer to this. I'll post my findings here. Check back in a day or so. __________________ ZCORR Products 10% Forum Member Discount Code ZCORR-FORUM2013 Free shipping on all domestic & APO/AFO orders over $75

August 26, 2010, 05:59 PM	#8
Zcorr Junior Member Join Date: April 30, 2010 Location: NY Posts: 7	VpCI vapors are not in any way an oil. In fact they are an excellent alternative to corrosion inhibiting oils. VpCI begins as a powder based chemical which sublimates into vapor. What exactly that chemical is, is a trade secret that we cannot share but I assure you it is not similar in any way to oil. Interesting fact: many oil pipelines around the world are protected by corrosion inhibiting chemicals that are added to the oil. For more information see here: http://www.heritagepackaging.com/pag...sion-packaging __________________ Become our fan on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Zcorr-...5783717?ref=ts

August 30, 2010, 12:53 PM	#9
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,379	OK, that's good to know. Thanks! __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 1, 2010, 07:50 AM	#10
ZCORR Jay Member Join Date: July 23, 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 99	Here is an interesting review that DVOTV did on our ZCORR Bags. __________________ ZCORR Products 10% Forum Member Discount Code ZCORR-FORUM2013 Free shipping on all domestic & APO/AFO orders over $75

September 9, 2010, 08:17 AM	#11
ZCORR Jay Member Join Date: July 23, 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 99	So in addition to the ammo can liners we are playing around with we are also experimenting with some potential ammo preservation bags and want to know what you folks think. The sizes so far are 3"x4" 4"x6" 8"x11" No prices as of yet but hopefully by the weekend. Here are some sample images. __________________ ZCORR Products 10% Forum Member Discount Code ZCORR-FORUM2013 Free shipping on all domestic & APO/AFO orders over $75

September 13, 2010, 03:25 PM	#12
ZCORR Jay Member Join Date: July 23, 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 99	Hey all, I have started posting 3 different sized ammo bags on our site at http://www.zcorrproducts.com/collect...m-storage-bags. These bags are made from the same interior layer as our ZCORR Gun Bags but instead of a foil barrier layer they are coated with a clear barrier layer providing the same performance and protection. __________________ ZCORR Products 10% Forum Member Discount Code ZCORR-FORUM2013 Free shipping on all domestic & APO/AFO orders over $75

September 13, 2010, 04:06 PM	#13
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	Here's one older , 1975 , paper. http://www.cortecvci.com/Publication...cts/CTP-10.pdf For more info just Google 'vapor phase inhibitor' . I have been using them for 40 years and as the paper explains they first were for ferrous alloys then they developed some for non-ferrous also. My long term gun storage is to clean the gun thoroughly, apply a thin coat of RIG ,wrap with VPI paper , then put into a zip-loc bag .Works very well.I'm sure ZCORR works just as well ! __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

September 13, 2010, 06:01 PM	#14
ZCORR Jay Member Join Date: July 23, 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 99	That's a great post mete. Our bags were designed to make the preservation process the easiest we could. The VpCI layer we use is so effective and the foil barrier layer locks not only locks in everything in the bag but also locks out everything in the surrounding atmosphere. __________________ ZCORR Products 10% Forum Member Discount Code ZCORR-FORUM2013 Free shipping on all domestic & APO/AFO orders over $75

September 26, 2010, 08:35 PM	#15
ZCORR Jay Member Join Date: July 23, 2010 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 99	Just wanted to give a heads up and let you all know that we will be releasing our top of the line storage bag this coming week. It is the M-16 Rifle bag that we have manufactured for the United States Marine Corps. These are the same bags that are discussed on our Military Origins Page. These bags offer the highest protection by combining the same anti corrosion performance of our ZCORR bags with a puncture proof liner. Pricing will be available very shortly. __________________ ZCORR Products 10% Forum Member Discount Code ZCORR-FORUM2013 Free shipping on all domestic & APO/AFO orders over $75

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