Alliant 20/28 for Pistols?

bugs1961 · August 11, 2013, 08:36 PM

Has anyone worked up data for 9, 40, or 45 using 20/28? I have 8 pounds that I bought for Skeet reloading but don't shoot much Skeet anymore. Since it has a burn rate similar to Unique, I thought it might work.

Thanks much

rclark · August 11, 2013, 08:40 PM

Just started some testing with it. My testing will be with revolver cartridges. Here is the thread I started rather than repeating what I have written: 20/28 test data

bugs1961 · August 11, 2013, 09:00 PM

Thanks much RClark. I looked at your link and that looks like a good start for sure. I shoot a lot of .44 also so it should work well there with cast bullets.

LSU · August 12, 2013, 05:24 AM

Bugs,

Go to the Alliant website and send Alliant's customer service an email request for data.

I had some questions about PowerPistol and got answers from Alliant's customer service rep the same day I sent my questions.

rclark · August 12, 2013, 08:36 AM

Your welcome. About to load up some .357 loads for some tests. Then onto .44Spec and .44Mag and maybe the .45ACP (in revolver). All I shoot is cast bullets

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BigD_in_FL · August 12, 2013, 08:41 AM

Email Ben at Alliant; he'll let you know one way or the other

bugs1961 · August 12, 2013, 03:29 PM

Thanks much guys. A year or so ago I wrote Alliant and was told that they have no plans to develop pistol data for 20/28 so I dropped it until now. If you would, RClark, post your work-up for the .44. I shoot a lot of cast MBC 18BRN bullets and it should work well. I'll get going myself with testing when I find some more time.

I need 30 hours in every day as it is!

Take care,
Bugs

zxcvbob · August 12, 2013, 04:00 PM

From your Ruger Forum post, it sounds a lot like Universal Clays.

rclark · August 12, 2013, 07:23 PM

Quote:

post your work-up for the .44.

Bugs, I will in the other thread. Stay tuned... Today, I was able to begin the .357 tests on the low side. I should be able to finish that testing off now by the weekend. Then onto the .44s .

WESHOOT2 · August 13, 2013, 07:05 AM

I have learned that powder manufacturers often have good reason they do not offer data for certain powders in certain applications.

When NO data is present, it indicates one must contact the manufacturer direct, and investigate why THEY do not offer data for your intended application.

They may have good reason......

rclark · August 13, 2013, 10:57 AM

More than likely they just haven't got around to it or don't plan too

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BTW, I have not been the only one to experiment with it. For example over on cast boolits some data on .44Mag and .357 out of a rifle :

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/arch...p/t-97667.html

Or some data for the .44 Special....

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB3/vie...?f=11&t=182527

Still I'll do my own testing.... The sky is not falling

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BigD_in_FL · August 13, 2013, 11:29 AM

Most fast-burning shotgun powders also do very well in handguns - 700X, Red Dot, Green Dot, Universal, Unique, Clays, International Clays, etc., etc......

As I am running low on Universal, and it won't be available again until next year, I am looking at 20/28 for both my 20 gauge reloads and my 32SWL, 38, 357, 9mm, and 45

Right now, Green Dot might work for some

pete2 · August 13, 2013, 01:26 PM

I have a theory as to why powder mfgs don't publish handgun loads for certain powders. They think they would sell less powder. There is no other reason that makes since. International Clays would load my shotguns, 12 and 20 and all my pistols. I would need only one powder. I would still burn approx. the same amount of powder but I'd only have one kind on hand.

BigD_in_FL · August 13, 2013, 06:09 PM

That would make their job easier - they wouldn't need to run some many products; changeover is expensive.

August 11, 2013, 08:36 PM	#1
bugs1961 Member Join Date: October 15, 2010 Location: Anchorage Posts: 20	Alliant 20/28 for Pistols? Has anyone worked up data for 9, 40, or 45 using 20/28? I have 8 pounds that I bought for Skeet reloading but don't shoot much Skeet anymore. Since it has a burn rate similar to Unique, I thought it might work. Thanks much

August 11, 2013, 08:40 PM	#2
rclark Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2009 Location: Butte, MT Posts: 2,622	Just started some testing with it. My testing will be with revolver cartridges. Here is the thread I started rather than repeating what I have written: 20/28 test data __________________ A clinger and deplorable, MAGA, and life NRA member. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Single Action .45 Colt (Sometimes colloquially referred to by its alias as the .45 'Long' Colt or .45LC). Don't leave home without it. That said, the .44Spec is right up their too... but the .45 Colt is still the king.

August 12, 2013, 08:36 AM	#5
rclark Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2009 Location: Butte, MT Posts: 2,622	Your welcome. About to load up some .357 loads for some tests. Then onto .44Spec and .44Mag and maybe the .45ACP (in revolver). All I shoot is cast bullets . __________________ A clinger and deplorable, MAGA, and life NRA member. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Single Action .45 Colt (Sometimes colloquially referred to by its alias as the .45 'Long' Colt or .45LC). Don't leave home without it. That said, the .44Spec is right up their too... but the .45 Colt is still the king.

August 12, 2013, 04:00 PM	#8
zxcvbob Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2007 Location: S.E. Minnesota Posts: 4,720	From your Ruger Forum post, it sounds a lot like Universal Clays. __________________ "Everything they do is so dramatic and flamboyant. It just makes me want to set myself on fire!" —Lucille Bluth

August 13, 2013, 07:05 AM	#10
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	they know more than me? I have learned that powder manufacturers often have good reason they do not offer data for certain powders in certain applications. When NO data is present, it indicates one must contact the manufacturer direct, and investigate why THEY do not offer data for your intended application. They may have good reason...... __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

August 11, 2013, 09:00 PM	#3
bugs1961 Member Join Date: October 15, 2010 Location: Anchorage Posts: 20	Thanks much RClark. I looked at your link and that looks like a good start for sure. I shoot a lot of .44 also so it should work well there with cast bullets.

August 12, 2013, 05:24 AM	#4
LSU Member Join Date: May 12, 2013 Posts: 38	Bugs, Go to the Alliant website and send Alliant's customer service an email request for data. I had some questions about PowerPistol and got answers from Alliant's customer service rep the same day I sent my questions.

August 12, 2013, 08:41 AM	#6
BigD_in_FL Junior member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: The "Gunshine State" Posts: 1,981	Email Ben at Alliant; he'll let you know one way or the other

August 12, 2013, 03:29 PM	#7
bugs1961 Member Join Date: October 15, 2010 Location: Anchorage Posts: 20	Thanks much guys. A year or so ago I wrote Alliant and was told that they have no plans to develop pistol data for 20/28 so I dropped it until now. If you would, RClark, post your work-up for the .44. I shoot a lot of cast MBC 18BRN bullets and it should work well. I'll get going myself with testing when I find some more time. I need 30 hours in every day as it is! Take care, Bugs

August 13, 2013, 10:57 AM	#11
rclark Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2009 Location: Butte, MT Posts: 2,622	More than likely they just haven't got around to it or don't plan too . BTW, I have not been the only one to experiment with it. For example over on cast boolits some data on .44Mag and .357 out of a rifle : http://castboolits.gunloads.com/arch...p/t-97667.html Or some data for the .44 Special.... http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB3/vie...?f=11&t=182527 Still I'll do my own testing.... The sky is not falling . __________________ A clinger and deplorable, MAGA, and life NRA member. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Single Action .45 Colt (Sometimes colloquially referred to by its alias as the .45 'Long' Colt or .45LC). Don't leave home without it. That said, the .44Spec is right up their too... but the .45 Colt is still the king.

August 13, 2013, 11:29 AM	#12
BigD_in_FL Junior member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: The "Gunshine State" Posts: 1,981	Most fast-burning shotgun powders also do very well in handguns - 700X, Red Dot, Green Dot, Universal, Unique, Clays, International Clays, etc., etc...... As I am running low on Universal, and it won't be available again until next year, I am looking at 20/28 for both my 20 gauge reloads and my 32SWL, 38, 357, 9mm, and 45 Right now, Green Dot might work for some

August 13, 2013, 01:26 PM	#13
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,566	I have a theory as to why powder mfgs don't publish handgun loads for certain powders. They think they would sell less powder. There is no other reason that makes since. International Clays would load my shotguns, 12 and 20 and all my pistols. I would need only one powder. I would still burn approx. the same amount of powder but I'd only have one kind on hand.

August 13, 2013, 06:09 PM	#14
BigD_in_FL Junior member Join Date: December 20, 2012 Location: The "Gunshine State" Posts: 1,981	That would make their job easier - they wouldn't need to run some many products; changeover is expensive.