What is a .323-caliber Enfield Albian bolt-action rifle,

indy1919 · March 28, 2013, 11:40 AM

So the news is going nuts with the "Arsenal" that the Newton killer had.. And he had this rifle according to the press..

.323-caliber Enfield Albian bolt-action rifle,

Is this real or just a 303 typo??????

tahunua001 · March 28, 2013, 12:11 PM

I'm guessing it's a typo, I don't know of any 8mm enfields.

EDIT: if you read the line items of what they found they found 2 boxes of 303 brit ammo.

indy1919 · March 28, 2013, 01:06 PM

That is what I thought, Amazing how the news media does not proof things worth crap...

Ok JUst to share some fun here there is at least one 8mm Enfield.. Agreed it is off the wall.. But I love this gun and just want to share

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/cruff...ser_hybrid.htm

tahunua001 · March 28, 2013, 01:10 PM

yes they also listed a Kodak easy share camera (C183) as a firearm and cataloged the bb gun and spent casings... nothing biased about that at all.

NWPilgrim · March 28, 2013, 01:52 PM

Ha, that arsenal less than I take to one trip to the range and I don't even have a Kodak camera!

Apparently it is just a SMLE manufactured by Ablion Motors or sheet metal.

http://www.enfield-rifles.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3344

Manufacturer's mark: M3

Manufacturer: Albion Pressed Steel Metal Co. Birmingham

Country: UK

wogpotter · March 28, 2013, 05:09 PM

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Apparently it is just a SMLE manufactured by Ablion Motors or sheet metal.

Albion (not "Albian") motors, were sub contractors for stamped sheet metal parts. As far as I can tell they never made complete rifles. A lot of Lee-Enfield parts were sub contracted at one time of another, check for "peddled scheme" rifles for more info on how widespread this became.

Albion Motors did make a few revolvers for a short period, but they were in 38/200 not ".323" whatever that is.

Lets not forget they also found "Fired cases for the air rifle" as well

ScottRiqui · March 28, 2013, 07:29 PM

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yes they also listed a Kodak easy share camera (C183) as a firearm

Not quite. They found a check from Lanza's mother to him, with the memo "for the purchase of a C183" written on it. The police probably just couldn't read her handwriting, and the check likely said "CZ83".

The whole "Kodak camera" thing is just from people Googling "C183".

James K · March 28, 2013, 08:56 PM

I bet that "Albian" rifle is already on Mr. Biden's list of guns to be banned. He said that a ban on semi-automatic rifles is "only the beginning".

Jim

scrubcedar · March 28, 2013, 09:25 PM

Maybe it's a good thing these people became journalists. Would you want these people to be your Pharmacist or Neurosurgeon?

Cheapshooter · March 29, 2013, 12:04 AM

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What is a .323-caliber Enfield Albian bolt-action rifle,

One of those "dangerous weapons" that accprding to Eric Holder are "allowed to be imported into this country because of a loophole due simply to their age"

Nico Testosteros · March 30, 2013, 04:42 PM

I believe the press is only reporting the results of the search warrant as presented to them by the police.

scrubcedar · March 30, 2013, 04:55 PM

Heaven help us if you're right Nico. That sort of sloppiness and ignorance by anyone who is an integral part of the Judicial process is unacceptable.

March 28, 2013, 11:40 AM	#1
indy1919 Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2011 Posts: 277	What is a .323-caliber Enfield Albian bolt-action rifle, So the news is going nuts with the "Arsenal" that the Newton killer had.. And he had this rifle according to the press.. .323-caliber Enfield Albian bolt-action rifle, Is this real or just a 303 typo??????

March 28, 2013, 12:11 PM	#2
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	I'm guessing it's a typo, I don't know of any 8mm enfields. EDIT: if you read the line items of what they found they found 2 boxes of 303 brit ammo. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin Last edited by tahunua001; March 28, 2013 at 12:35 PM.

March 28, 2013, 01:10 PM	#4
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	yes they also listed a Kodak easy share camera (C183) as a firearm and cataloged the bb gun and spent casings... nothing biased about that at all. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

March 28, 2013, 01:52 PM	#5
NWPilgrim Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,346	Ha, that arsenal less than I take to one trip to the range and I don't even have a Kodak camera! Apparently it is just a SMLE manufactured by Ablion Motors or sheet metal. http://www.enfield-rifles.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3344 Manufacturer's mark: M3 Manufacturer: Albion Pressed Steel Metal Co. Birmingham Country: UK __________________ "The ultimate authority ... resides in the people alone. ... The advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation ... forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition." - James Madison

March 28, 2013, 09:25 PM	#9
scrubcedar Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2012 Location: Southwestern Colorado Posts: 507	Maybe it's a good thing these people became journalists. Would you want these people to be your Pharmacist or Neurosurgeon? __________________ Gaily bedight, A gallant knight In sunshine and in shadow, Had journeyed long, Singing a song, In search of El Dorado

March 28, 2013, 01:06 PM	#3
indy1919 Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2011 Posts: 277	That is what I thought, Amazing how the news media does not proof things worth crap... Ok JUst to share some fun here there is at least one 8mm Enfield.. Agreed it is off the wall.. But I love this gun and just want to share http://www.angelfire.com/realm/cruff...ser_hybrid.htm

March 28, 2013, 08:56 PM	#8
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	I bet that "Albian" rifle is already on Mr. Biden's list of guns to be banned. He said that a ban on semi-automatic rifles is "only the beginning". Jim

March 30, 2013, 04:42 PM	#11
Nico Testosteros Senior Member Join Date: August 24, 2010 Location: Austin, Tejas Posts: 110	What is a .323-caliber Enfield Albian bolt-action rifle, I believe the press is only reporting the results of the search warrant as presented to them by the police.

March 30, 2013, 04:55 PM	#12
scrubcedar Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2012 Location: Southwestern Colorado Posts: 507	Heaven help us if you're right Nico. That sort of sloppiness and ignorance by anyone who is an integral part of the Judicial process is unacceptable. __________________ Gaily bedight, A gallant knight In sunshine and in shadow, Had journeyed long, Singing a song, In search of El Dorado