454 cassul & 45 lc

capodastro · January 19, 2014, 04:53 PM

i load for 454 cassul and am buying brass for 45lc, can i use the 454 dies for 45 or is the case wall thicker on 454, or some other reason, 45lc is the parent case so i figure i just screw die in less to make up for difference in case length.
any advice would be appreciated.

Roughedge · January 19, 2014, 06:51 PM

The 45 colt is .480 and the 454 is .4775. They may work but I use different dies for both.

454PB · January 20, 2014, 10:27 PM

The only problem with loading .45 Colt with .454 dies is that you won't be able to get crimp after bullet seating.........the brass is too short (or the die is too long).

capodastro · January 21, 2014, 10:08 AM

excellent point on crimp, of course, why didnt i think of that. thanks to both.

GeauxTide · January 21, 2014, 08:53 PM

The Casull is .1 inches longer. The mouth and head measure the same as as the Colt, .480. They shoot the same bullets. Why couldn't you screw down the die and crimp like you would a .38spl/357mag?

454PB · January 21, 2014, 09:28 PM

The die will hit the shell holder before it can reach the case mouth.

You CAN load .454 with .45 Colt dies, just not the other way around unless you shorten the crimping die.

January 19, 2014, 04:53 PM	#1
capodastro Member Join Date: March 16, 2012 Location: bondurant, wyoming Posts: 41	454 cassul & 45 lc i load for 454 cassul and am buying brass for 45lc, can i use the 454 dies for 45 or is the case wall thicker on 454, or some other reason, 45lc is the parent case so i figure i just screw die in less to make up for difference in case length. any advice would be appreciated.

January 19, 2014, 06:51 PM	#2
Roughedge Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2011 Location: Monroe,NC Posts: 669	The 45 colt is .480 and the 454 is .4775. They may work but I use different dies for both. __________________ The man that die's with the most stuff win's!

January 21, 2014, 08:53 PM	#5
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,423	I'm Confused The Casull is .1 inches longer. The mouth and head measure the same as as the Colt, .480. They shoot the same bullets. Why couldn't you screw down the die and crimp like you would a .38spl/357mag?

January 20, 2014, 10:27 PM	#3
454PB Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Location: Helena, Mt. Posts: 122	The only problem with loading .45 Colt with .454 dies is that you won't be able to get crimp after bullet seating.........the brass is too short (or the die is too long).

January 21, 2014, 10:08 AM	#4
capodastro Member Join Date: March 16, 2012 Location: bondurant, wyoming Posts: 41	excellent point on crimp, of course, why didnt i think of that. thanks to both.

January 21, 2014, 09:28 PM	#6
454PB Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Location: Helena, Mt. Posts: 122	The die will hit the shell holder before it can reach the case mouth. You CAN load .454 with .45 Colt dies, just not the other way around unless you shorten the crimping die.