recently attacked by man with cane - Page 3

Buzzcook · November 18, 2010, 03:36 PM

Geez doc can't you back up? Or is there a reason you let the old man stay so close?

markj · November 18, 2010, 03:55 PM

This brings back memories of Grandpa and his cane..... He was in WW2, one day in the phillipines he was captured by Jap forces and made to walk to bataan. He suffered from that the rest of his life, had to use a cane to walk and keep his balance. Was slower than a snail but so fast with the cane. All it took was for you to forget the reach, then smack, the cane. It hurt.

One day I was fightin with my brother, I grabbed that cane and whacked him across the knees, he went down hard. I thought I broke his legs and was feared about telling mom or dad. Respect the cane, but keep out of its reach and you will be OK, old men cant run fast for the most part.

Sure do miss Grandpa, dont miss that cane tho.

doc540 · November 18, 2010, 03:59 PM

"Geez doc can't you back up? Or is there a reason you let the old man stay so close?"

Since we're talking theory here, what if I was in a position where I couldn't back up?

What if I'd just sat down into my car seat and he blocked the door before I could close it?

My point, in case you missed it, was it's not always "this or that", "black or white".

Of course, an old man with a cane seems as if he couldn't pose a significant threat.

But that might not always be true.

robmkivseries70 · November 18, 2010, 04:07 PM

Just an FYI, I have been told that "Sensei" in Japanese, actually means "old man". Now, where can I get a book on 'cane' self defense techniques? Thanks!
Best,
Rob

aarondhgraham · November 18, 2010, 04:50 PM

Google: LAPD + baton techniques

You will get more book and training info than you can ever read.

Walking stick was the only weapon Mr. Chan (my old Tae Kwan Do teacher) would give us instruction in,,,
We had all just seen Enter the Dragon and we wanted to learn nunchako,,,
He said, why train in something you can't carry around town,,,
He was right, the walking stick is formidable.

If it wasn't such a pita to carry the danged thing around all the time,,,
I would feel relatively well armed with my ash wood cane.

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thesheepdog · November 18, 2010, 04:50 PM

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Now, where can I get a book on 'cane' self defense techniques? Thanks!

Krav Maga-just watched my instructor demo it last week.

Sherlock · November 18, 2010, 06:41 PM

+1 donron if it's an elderly man with a cane or move in quick and check his pulse and let him know he needs to calm down before he has a heart attack (humor)

. But yes I'd probably just leave and let him stew. Now, if a saw a blade pop out of the end of the cane that might change things.

Catfishman · November 18, 2010, 07:15 PM

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The point of my post was not to "pump hot lead" into an old person with a cane.Those are your word not mine.

I bothers me that you think this confrontation may have ended differently had you been carrying. Maybe you shouldn't carry.

You can't pull a gun out to deffuse a situation it may very well escalate the heck out of a situation and lead to your being required to "pump hot lead into someone". Guns aren't for flashing at someone to anoint youself as the winner of an argument. Guns are for shooting someone.

I would hope that anyone would accept the small chance of getting his butt whipped by an old man, rather that pulling a gun out.

Colorado Redneck · November 18, 2010, 09:46 PM

Get away. No shame in moving away from any kind of potential attack. If the attacker comes after you then choices have to be made.

One can get irrational in a hurry when confronted with potential violence. if the other person is irrational, it can go to blows, and one never ever knows the outcome. Our culture is so cranked up on phony violence portrayed in movies that many have no clue how bad the other person can be, or how bad you can get nailed.

A gun, in my opinion is the last resort when you feel your life is threatend.

Glenn E. Meyer · November 19, 2010, 10:13 AM

Not my forum, but I think this has run its course. Yes, a cane is dangerous. Yes, it is an old man from whom, you could probably just run for it.

No, jumping in your car to retrieve your gat and/or roscoe probably isn't a good plan.

So to all a good night or morning.

Glenn

November 18, 2010, 03:59 PM	#53
doc540 Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,430	"Geez doc can't you back up? Or is there a reason you let the old man stay so close?" Since we're talking theory here, what if I was in a position where I couldn't back up? What if I'd just sat down into my car seat and he blocked the door before I could close it? My point, in case you missed it, was it's not always "this or that", "black or white". Of course, an old man with a cane seems as if he couldn't pose a significant threat. But that might not always be true. __________________ Shooting more, typing less

November 18, 2010, 04:50 PM	#55
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	Now, where can I get a book on 'cane' self defense techniques? Google: LAPD + baton techniques You will get more book and training info than you can ever read. Walking stick was the only weapon Mr. Chan (my old Tae Kwan Do teacher) would give us instruction in,,, We had all just seen Enter the Dragon and we wanted to learn nunchako,,, He said, why train in something you can't carry around town,,, He was right, the walking stick is formidable. If it wasn't such a pita to carry the danged thing around all the time,,, I would feel relatively well armed with my ash wood cane. . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

November 18, 2010, 06:41 PM	#57
Sherlock Member Join Date: September 24, 2010 Posts: 20	+1 donron if it's an elderly man with a cane or move in quick and check his pulse and let him know he needs to calm down before he has a heart attack (humor) . But yes I'd probably just leave and let him stew. Now, if a saw a blade pop out of the end of the cane that might change things. __________________ Sherlock NRA Member Traveling Man - Hoover #770 F&AM Freedom exists so long as freemen stand united and devoted to protecting it.

November 19, 2010, 10:13 AM	#60
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Not my forum, but I think this has run its course. Yes, a cane is dangerous. Yes, it is an old man from whom, you could probably just run for it. No, jumping in your car to retrieve your gat and/or roscoe probably isn't a good plan. So to all a good night or morning. Glenn __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

November 18, 2010, 03:36 PM	#51
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	Geez doc can't you back up? Or is there a reason you let the old man stay so close?

November 18, 2010, 03:55 PM	#52
markj Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2005 Location: Crescent Iowa Posts: 2,971	This brings back memories of Grandpa and his cane..... He was in WW2, one day in the phillipines he was captured by Jap forces and made to walk to bataan. He suffered from that the rest of his life, had to use a cane to walk and keep his balance. Was slower than a snail but so fast with the cane. All it took was for you to forget the reach, then smack, the cane. It hurt. One day I was fightin with my brother, I grabbed that cane and whacked him across the knees, he went down hard. I thought I broke his legs and was feared about telling mom or dad. Respect the cane, but keep out of its reach and you will be OK, old men cant run fast for the most part. Sure do miss Grandpa, dont miss that cane tho.

November 18, 2010, 04:07 PM	#54
robmkivseries70 Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2005 Location: free territory Posts: 203	Just an FYI, I have been told that "Sensei" in Japanese, actually means "old man". Now, where can I get a book on 'cane' self defense techniques? Thanks! Best, Rob

November 18, 2010, 09:46 PM	#59
Colorado Redneck Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2008 Location: Northeast Colorado Posts: 1,993	Get away. No shame in moving away from any kind of potential attack. If the attacker comes after you then choices have to be made. One can get irrational in a hurry when confronted with potential violence. if the other person is irrational, it can go to blows, and one never ever knows the outcome. Our culture is so cranked up on phony violence portrayed in movies that many have no clue how bad the other person can be, or how bad you can get nailed. A gun, in my opinion is the last resort when you feel your life is threatend.