looking for gun type.

Meiji_man · July 7, 2000, 11:46 AM

Small revolver. Looks like a .32 or .30 or 9mm or so. Break action, I think 5 round cylinder. theres two in the case of the same design, one is blued with a "brass" frame. The other is stainless. The "Brass" one has black handles with US stamped on it. The othe has the US and a face of an owl on it. Does anyone know what this is?

Paul B. · July 7, 2000, 02:23 PM

I think the one with the owlon the grip is an Iver Johnson, probably a .32 short.
Not too sure about the brass one though.
Are there more markings on these revolvers? I could use a few more details.
Paul B.

Meiji_man · July 7, 2000, 02:41 PM

The markings have been worn away.

JimWolford · July 7, 2000, 10:47 PM

The "brass" one might be a Marlin

John Marlin started his empire making a close copy of the early S&W, his gun however was for a 30 cal rimfire cartrige, the only gun to use this ammo, I think.

Originally, Marlins gun was a brass frame with nickle plating on it, the barrel and cylinder was either nickle or blue, your choice.

Not particularly rare, but Marlin collectors might be interested, if you know any

Jim

Paul B. · July 8, 2000, 04:45 PM

Jim. Colt also made a pocket pistol in .30 rimfire. It was a single action with a spur trigger. I think it was called the "New Line" but it has been years since I saw it. It was stolen in 1957. Too bad as it was a family heirloom.
Paul B.

Meiji_man · July 8, 2000, 06:29 PM

Ok went back down to the store and took another look. The SS one is made by Smith and Wesson and and is called a "Secret Service" what were these chambered in?

James K · July 9, 2000, 12:07 AM

I can't place the name "Secret Service" with any S&W. I think there was a Spanish revolver using that name; it was typical 1920's Spanish pot metal "junque" and essentially worthless. Some of those had a marking like "use SMITH & WESSON cartridges" or something similar to fool the buyer.

Copy down as much of the markings as you can read, and we will give this one another shot (pun intended).

Jim

July 7, 2000, 11:46 AM	#1
Meiji_man Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2000 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 455	Small revolver. Looks like a .32 or .30 or 9mm or so. Break action, I think 5 round cylinder. theres two in the case of the same design, one is blued with a "brass" frame. The other is stainless. The "Brass" one has black handles with US stamped on it. The othe has the US and a face of an owl on it. Does anyone know what this is?

July 7, 2000, 02:23 PM	#2
Paul B. Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 1999 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,802	I think the one with the owlon the grip is an Iver Johnson, probably a .32 short. Not too sure about the brass one though. Are there more markings on these revolvers? I could use a few more details. Paul B.

July 7, 2000, 02:41 PM	#3
Meiji_man Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2000 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 455	The markings have been worn away.

July 7, 2000, 10:47 PM	#4
JimWolford Member Join Date: June 20, 2000 Posts: 63	The "brass" one might be a Marlin John Marlin started his empire making a close copy of the early S&W, his gun however was for a 30 cal rimfire cartrige, the only gun to use this ammo, I think. Originally, Marlins gun was a brass frame with nickle plating on it, the barrel and cylinder was either nickle or blue, your choice. Not particularly rare, but Marlin collectors might be interested, if you know any Jim

July 8, 2000, 04:45 PM	#5
Paul B. Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 1999 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,802	Jim. Colt also made a pocket pistol in .30 rimfire. It was a single action with a spur trigger. I think it was called the "New Line" but it has been years since I saw it. It was stolen in 1957. Too bad as it was a family heirloom. Paul B.

July 8, 2000, 06:29 PM	#6
Meiji_man Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2000 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 455	Ok went back down to the store and took another look. The SS one is made by Smith and Wesson and and is called a "Secret Service" what were these chambered in?

July 9, 2000, 12:07 AM	#7
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	I can't place the name "Secret Service" with any S&W. I think there was a Spanish revolver using that name; it was typical 1920's Spanish pot metal "junque" and essentially worthless. Some of those had a marking like "use SMITH & WESSON cartridges" or something similar to fool the buyer. Copy down as much of the markings as you can read, and we will give this one another shot (pun intended). Jim