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September 8, 2012, 08:27 AM | #1 |
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I think I have an addiction to Milsurp
When I joined TFL I had a Norinco SKS, Mosin Nagant (MN) 44 carbine, a Nagant Revolver, and a 1939 MN 91-30.
Now I have bought a 1938 MN 91-30 a 1929 hex reciever MN Dragoon a 1891 Argentine Mauser (Modelo Argentine for the purists) 7.65x53 a 24/47 Yugoslavian Mauser in 8mm a m213 Norinco in 9mm I have a total of $1285 in these. I find my self eyeballing Enfields, Mas 36's, Carcanos, Arisakas, (yes Springfields, and Garands but they are a little out of my price range if I want to stay married.) Is there a support group? lol Serious question Does Hoppes no9 do a good job on corrosive ammo clean up?
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September 8, 2012, 08:59 AM | #2 |
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I don't think you are alone in your addiction. Historical weapons have a mystical appeal. From an economical perspective, you can buy around 5 Milsurps as you described for a commercial bolt gun & a scope. I enjoy shooting them. If I can't shoot it, It is traded away or sold.
Hoppes 9 will take care of your bore after corrosive ammo. |
September 8, 2012, 09:02 AM | #3 |
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#1 - There is some controversy on whether Hoppes works on corrosive ammo. If you have any concern, the old tried-and-true methods of hot soapy water and Ballistol are still available.
#2 - There is a sure-fire cure for the pain and agony of Milsurp Addiction. It's called an 03C&RFFL. As soon as you have one, you have government approval and acceptance, and all the pain goes away. |
September 8, 2012, 05:15 PM | #4 |
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Military surplus can be addictive. But don't forget it is also a whole lot of fun.
I got it too 4 different enfields 3 mosin nagants springfields garand m1 carbine and so on. |
September 8, 2012, 07:08 PM | #5 |
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Colonel Custer - sorry my friend there is no cure, only temporary relief.
(when you buy another one but it's short-lived) Look at this way; there's worse addictions..... |
September 8, 2012, 11:52 PM | #6 |
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No, you need to drink the Hoppes if you want to cure your addiction. There are worse vices than the condition you have acquired. For one thing, if you buy wisely your investment will be safe and likely increase in value quite nicely. My mantra has been 1) Bore condition 2) Matching bolt 3) Very good to excellent overall condition. That's a nice list of pieces that you have obtained so far ! Seriously, on the Hoppes, the answer is definitely NO. You need to flush the barrel out with water. Just plain old water. Find a funnel that you can rig to where you can run warm water down the barrel. Then clean as you would after any other ammo, with Hoppes, etc. Then the last patch with a good gun oil and you are done. The corrosive priming leaves a residue that is very water soluble, but not oil soluble. Hoppes is not water based. Welcome to the club Chris P.S. If you love to shoot rifles, consider putting a Swiss K31 on your list . Last edited by DoctorXring; September 8, 2012 at 11:59 PM. |
September 9, 2012, 08:15 AM | #7 |
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Custer
Your not alone, When I pick up a Rifle Magazine, I usually skip all the articles except the ones about millserps, and when I go into a Gunshop, I walk right past the new guns, and look through the used guns, for Surplus Rifles.
Dont worry about it, just enjoy your collection. |
September 10, 2012, 01:18 AM | #8 |
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That aint nothing.
Just wait until someone gives you a wartime M1 Garand or Carbine walnut stock for free. Not really a good one. Not cracked. No metal parts, but orginal GI in good condition. I got both. The Garand two months ago and the carbine yesterday.
I am doomed. I sunk $75 bucks into the metal parts for the Garand stock already. And who could pass up a $5 matching walnut hand guard for the carbine? It already had the metal sheetmetal do-hicky and marked, IO. I'm toast. Midnight 2nd Survival job all winter long here-I-come. Again. |
September 10, 2012, 09:00 PM | #9 |
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Colonel, you do have an 03 FFL (Collector of Curios and Relics) to make things easier, and ease the financial pain a bit don't you?
Well, let's just say make things easier. Don't know about the financial pain part so much. You'll figure that out when your bound book looks more like a phone book!
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September 11, 2012, 06:41 PM | #10 |
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I almost bought a Arisaka 33. Then I looked at the ammo...decided not to. :-/
An enfield no4 for less than 400 though...I WANT IN. |
September 11, 2012, 08:42 PM | #11 |
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The symptoms of the disease start to subside when you reach 50+ rifles.
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September 12, 2012, 02:54 PM | #12 | |
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September 13, 2012, 11:43 AM | #13 |
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Join the club. I bought my first mil-surp a year ago. It was an SKS. I now have a dozen of them, not to mention Mosin-Nagants, AKs, Enfields, CETMEs, and an M1 Garand. I can stop any time I want.
Just one note: IF you get an Enfield, make it an Ishapore 2A1. These were made in .308 (7.62 NATO), not .303 British, and they are made of a superior steel. All the Enfields are great, but .308 is MUCH easier to find and less expensive than British .303 is now. Just sayin'. You should be able to find an Ishy for no more than $300. Damned nice rifles. |
September 14, 2012, 07:09 PM | #14 |
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I suffered from this terrible sickness and addiction one time . . . I finally went "cold turkey" much to my wife's relief (she's really good about my hobbies - not my "addictions"). I up and sold my collection and never looked back even though it was a hard thing to do. THEN, I got interested in pistol shooting again . . . woe is me . . . . like rifles, one is not enough. What can I say? The only good thing is that they're smaller and take up less room . . . well, sort of.
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September 15, 2012, 08:15 PM | #15 |
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You guys got it wrong the 03 c&r is the cure to having too much money in the bank
No money left in the bank is the cure to milsurp addiction No room in the safe also is reported to help so yes getting a 03 c&r will cure having too much money in the bank and also allows you to fill the safe easier and for a lot less $ But technically it isn’t the cure for milsurp collecting |
September 16, 2012, 08:06 AM | #16 |
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I would rather have my money in fire arms than cash in the bank, or stocks and cd's. While some stocks have done very well for me, others have not. All my fire arms have done well, at least keeping up with inflation. Inflation well soon have 5.56 LC ammo up to $1 around.
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September 16, 2012, 07:35 PM | #17 |
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You have a long way to go young Grasshopper.I started it all wih a Mosin Nagant 90-30. Now I have
12 Mosin Nagants, including M38's, M39's, M44's, 2 New England Westinghouse''s, and a Remington. Nagant M1895 pistol Winchester 95 lever action in 7.62X54R (Quite rare, also made for the Russians) Yugo SKS German K98 Mauser Yugo M48 Mauser Romanian TT-33 Tokarev Walther P-1 9 mm Swiss K31 Japanese type 99 Arisaka Hungarian Steyr Austrian Steyr Bulgarian contract Steyr CZ82 9mm Mak CZ52 7X25mm Good thing I'm a reloader so I can afford to shoot them all.
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October 1, 2012, 05:59 PM | #18 |
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Now add 2 CMP M1 Garands! One Springfield Armory, one H&R.
I knew I was in trouble when I got that Fed C&R license!
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October 1, 2012, 08:21 PM | #19 |
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;) LOL
Your all very sick people. Get help!
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October 13, 2012, 01:55 PM | #20 |
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Have to amend my list again!
Now I have: 12 Mosin Nagants, including M38's, M39's, M44's, 2 New England Westinghouse''s, and a Remington. Nagant M1895 pistol Winchester 95 lever action in 7.62X54R (Quite rare, also made for the Russians) Yugo SKS German K98 Mauser Yugo M48 Mauser Romanian TT-33 Tokarev Walther P-1 9 mm Swiss K31 Japanese type 99 Arisaka Hungarian Steyr Austrian Steyr Bulgarian contract Steyr CZ82 9mm Mak Romanian TT-33 Tok pistol. Swiss 96/K11 conversion (Rebarreled so it can shoot modern Swiss ammo) As a matter of fact, I like the Tok so much better than the CZ52, I traded the CZ for a scoped Savage 110 in 30.06!
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October 14, 2012, 01:08 PM | #21 |
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;) LOL
It could be worse. Horses poo, planes are big, stamps well I don't know squat about them but they will make you crazy too.
..MJ........
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October 16, 2012, 06:38 PM | #22 |
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My name is Custer and I have a problem lol
I bought a 7mm Spanish Mauser 1927 model Monday Oct 17, 12
I have added a 1979 Marlin model 60 I own 4 shotguns 3 other revolvers a model 459 S&W 9mm a SMC 918 Makarov Clone in 9x18 and a few others but Bolt Action Rifles are my pride and joy!
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In order to cut down on gun crimes we The Govt. are banning all guns. Well I guess I will sleep with a chainsaw next to my bed. Not the same as a gun but I figure the sound of it revving up will be as effective as a pump shot gun being cycled. |
October 20, 2012, 06:51 PM | #23 |
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Newist addition
1966 Lee Enfield Mk3 2A made in Ishapore
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In order to cut down on gun crimes we The Govt. are banning all guns. Well I guess I will sleep with a chainsaw next to my bed. Not the same as a gun but I figure the sound of it revving up will be as effective as a pump shot gun being cycled. |
October 22, 2012, 12:34 AM | #24 |
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My six Enfields (#4/mk.1s, #5s) might be an indication of the need for an intervention. Must admit that only one Garand is here but the goal now is simply buying ammo, in case the UN Treaty has more influence here the next few years, one more 'red' Supreme Court judge, or much inflation etc.
When my wife was told in '08 that I was shopping for a second MN 44 (the first twin), the puzzled look was as if she had been hit by a native hunter's blow pipe dart, dipped in animal tranqilizer. She just gazed into Steven Hawking's fifth dimension, speechless, with a blank stare that can't be described. Last edited by Ignition Override; October 22, 2012 at 12:39 AM. |
October 22, 2012, 05:23 AM | #25 |
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It’s also the only addiction where the support group makes things worse !
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